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      10-14-2020 04:09 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by chucchinchilla View Post
      When you buy an MDX you're not flying in Economy, but you certainly aren't flying Business Class either. I'd call this car Premium Economy. Don't get me wrong, I like the MDX, it's a nice enough car with generous space and strong reliability scores, but it's no Mercedes.
      The current one is def a Pilot Brougham but the new crop of Acuras seem to be closing the gap on interiors and tech in the sub $60K space. To be fair the price gap has closed as well, but an RDX doesn't give up much to a similarly specced X3/GLC/Q5.
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      10-14-2020 04:25 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by tejlab View Post
      It's the same thing with a different badge. It's cute you think there is that level of differentiation in the car industry today.
      Bite my cute metal ass.
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      10-14-2020 04:34 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by tejlab View Post
      It's the same thing with a different badge. It's cute you think there is that level of differentiation in the car industry today.
      I'd have to agree with you. I also can't see the difference between a Mitsubishi RVR and Mercedes GLC. Interiors are near identical; strictly badge engineering and a higher price.

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      10-14-2020 04:42 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0_Mazda View Post
      I'd have to agree with you. I also can't see the difference between a Mitsubishi RVR and Mercedes GLC. Interiors are near identical; strictly badge engineering and a higher price.
      This isn't a mitsubishi RVR.

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      10-14-2020 05:04 PM #30
      It's essentially the 2022 Acura MDX, and it's a big improvement

      The next-generation Acura MDX is here, almost. This three-row crossover you’re looking at is technically being called the MDX Prototype by Acura, but it’s about as close to production as any prototype can get.

      And what a looker it is. Acura has followed up the slick TLX sedan with another attractive design. With the MDX now the best-selling Acura nameplate of all time, this one was even more important for Acura to get right. Just like the TLX, it benefits from a much longer dash-to-axle dimension, measuring in six inches longer than the outgoing MDX. The pentagon grille, and Chicane-shaped DRLs in the headlights now grace a much wider car. Acura gave this MDX a wider track and a three-inch longer wheelbase, both aiding in making it appear far more graceful and sporty.

      Acura clearly isn’t holding much of anything back with this MDX Prototype versus the final production car, and we’re liking what we can see so far. Many of the design elements we liked so much on the TLX are transferred over to this crossover body style, and Acura has done so with class.

      The MDXs you see here are riding on new 21-inch wheels that are bolted up to a new light truck platform and chassis specifically tailored for the MDX. Acura says it provides for more athletic handling, greater ride comfort and a quieter cabin versus the outgoing MDX. It’s even more rigid than the RDX’s body. Just like the new TLX, Acura has gone with a double wishbone front suspension design to make the MDX an even sportier driver.

      There’s more excitement in the powertrain options for the new MDX, too. Acura promises a Type S version of the MDX is coming with the same 3.0-liter turbocharged V6 you’ll find under the hood of the TLX Type S. It will make 355 horsepower and 354 pound-feet of torque (same as the TLX) in this application. The standard engine will continue to be Acura’s 3.5-liter V6 that makes 290 horsepower and 267 pound-feet of torque. Both engines will be mated to Acura’s 10-speed automatic transmission and send power to all four wheels using the latest fourth-generation SH-AWD system.

      Not all of the performance details are available yet, but Acura says the MDX can be had with four-piston Brembo brake calipers and comes with a drive mode selector that allows you to adjust ride, handling, steering, suspension and powertrain characteristics. More Type S-specific details will need to wait.

      The interior matches the exterior for flair and elegance. We’ve already seen some shadowy images of the MDX’s cabin, and we’re even more impressed with the interior shown here. The upright instrument panel design that is festooned with tech and flashy materials is a great sight to see for Acura. This car’s outgoing interior just didn’t live up to the Acura name and luxury price, but that’s all changed now.

      We like the open-pore wood that’s been infused with metallic flake, French stitching, contrast piping and quilted leather in all three rows. Acura says that all three rows get more legroom this year, and first and third rows get more headroom. A new panoramic moonroof should make the cabin even airier for rear occupants, too.

      Tech takes a big step forward in this MDX. Acura is debuting a new 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster for the 2022 MDX (Acura says it's skipping model year 2021) that replaces the physical gauges from before. The infotainment system is the same True Touchpad Interface we saw in the RDX and TLX, but the screen has been enlarged to 12.3 inches in the MDX. It also gets a new CPU for improved performance. Acura is continuing to feature ELS audio for its premium stereo systems, too. The big ticket system in the MDX is an ELS Studio 3D setup with 25 speakers and 1,000 watts of power. Six of those speakers are in the car’s ceiling.

      Taking the tech one step further, the MDX gets new 16-way power seats with massage functionality. There are nine massage modes to choose from for the two front passengers. Acura has also integrated a new ambient lighting system into the MDX, letting owners choose from 27 different lighting themes/combinations. Safety tech is almost a given for Honda and Acura, but it’s good to hear that the MDX will come with AcuraWatch’s suite of driver assistance technologies. It also features the same new airbag technology first revealed in the TLX.

      Acura still has more details to reveal about the MDX, but we can expect those closer to the production model’s official reveal. The standard 2022 MDX will arrive in dealers next year, and the Type S will follow in summer 2021. Prices will be released closer to the on-sale date.
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      10-14-2020 05:43 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by tejlab View Post
      This isn't a mitsubishi RVR.
      You're right it's not; far nicer. I was just making fun of your comment. While the gap is closer, it's still noticeable in my opinion.

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      10-14-2020 05:51 PM #32
      My wife has been really wanting one of these (without having seen it, just the next logical step from her RDX) but I really struggle to see how it’s $10-15-20k better than her moms new Highlander Platinum.

      Especially to just sit in front of the house for days at a time...

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      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0_Mazda View Post
      You're right it's not; far nicer. I was just making fun of your comment. While the gap is closer, it's still noticeable in my opinion.
      Yeah for one thing they won’t bone you $300 for an oil change.
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      10-14-2020 05:52 PM #33
      Interesting/cool that they're keeping the tried and true J35, though the 90s called and want their timing belt back
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      10-14-2020 05:57 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by CTK View Post
      Interesting/cool that they're keeping the tried and true J35, though the 90s called and want their timing belt back
      Just wait.
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      10-14-2020 05:57 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by The_Real_Stack View Post
      Especially to just sit in front of the house for days at a time...
      This makes the badge that much more important
      Quote Originally Posted by QUIRKiT View Post
      I spent my entire season budget during the off-season on go fast parts, so now I'm wishing I hadn't and had saved a little so I could buy a sim rig.

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      10-14-2020 06:01 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by CTK View Post
      This makes the badge that much more important
      There’s a guy with two (older) Porsches (Boxster, 930) and a Ferrari (328) across from me; I can’t compete. Anything’s an improvement from a 2015 RDX
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      10-14-2020 06:55 PM #37
      I like it. Lighting looks cool. Nothing stands out on this exterior.

      Not sure why Acura feels the need to throw away the regular Honda infotainment and make it worse with the touch pad thing.
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      10-14-2020 10:07 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by Metallitubby View Post
      Like I said; There are at LEAST two Acura interior designers on the Vortex. Maybe I can signal them to answer these questions.
      FWIW I despise the touch pad interface. That alone would prevent me from even considering this car or the TLX.

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      10-14-2020 10:44 PM #39
      Tail feels like new tlx pilot mixed. This looks amazing but i dont see how this doesnt move upmarket in a big way and is no longer the “deal” for the class like the old one was. Did they give price estimates yet? My guess is +5k for the reg 3.5 + 10k for the typeS
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      10-15-2020 02:52 AM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by tejlab View Post
      It's the same thing with a different badge. It's cute you think there is that level of differentiation in the car industry today.
      Except you have to buy the Type S to get an engine comparable to the base engines from MB/BMW. The 3.0T should be the standard engine, especially if they are raising the price a few grand and calling this their flagship. And would it kill profits to use leather for the airbag cover on the steering wheel?
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      10-15-2020 07:53 AM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by Unilateral Phase Detractor View Post
      FWIW I despise the touch pad interface. That alone would prevent me from even considering this car or the TLX.
      Trackpad idea is not a problem, it's actually quite clever. It's implementation is the problem. Acura track pad is not even the same shape/aspect ratio as the screen and yet they have the absolute positioning (once again a good idea). It needs to be larger in area, more comfortable. It needs to be contextual as screen options change from grid to vertical list to horizontal sliders which in itself is a bad UI setup.

      Absolute positioning solves usage while driving, no pixel hunting no bumps on the road messing with your fingers (that's the problem Lexus has) but it needs to be more obvious, it should not deviate from the one-way implementation, no lists, no sliders etc.

      Here is a one solution for Acura designers: Have your trackpad divide in grid for absolute positioning and keep it like that, make the grid lines light up on the trackpad. When you have a vertical scrolling list on the screen mark each item with a number 1-9 then have your trackpad assign those numbers to the grid fields. No need to scroll with trackpad just tap corresponding number that lights up on the touchpad. Same thing when you have +/- sliders or on/off switches. Either introduce a separate knob for such thing or just use the grid on trackpad and assign those values to it. This way you have a universal way how you use the trackpad, it's always in grid no matter if it's absolute positioning or numbered choice from the list or switcher and sliders. But that's only the half way fix, on screen UI needs fixing as well.

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      10-15-2020 07:53 AM #42
      The Type S will probably cost less than the base GLS/X7 so that evens out.

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      Quote Originally Posted by QUIRKiT View Post
      I spent my entire season budget during the off-season on go fast parts, so now I'm wishing I hadn't and had saved a little so I could buy a sim rig.

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      10-15-2020 08:43 AM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by Unilateral Phase Detractor View Post
      FWIW I despise the touch pad interface. That alone would prevent me from even considering this car or the TLX.
      Quote Originally Posted by texghost View Post
      Trackpad idea is not a problem, it's actually quite clever. It's implementation is the problem. Acura track pad is not even the same shape/aspect ratio as the screen and yet they have the absolute positioning (once again a good idea). It needs to be larger in area, more comfortable. It needs to be contextual as screen options change from grid to vertical list to horizontal sliders which in itself is a bad UI setup.

      Absolute positioning solves usage while driving, no pixel hunting no bumps on the road messing with your fingers (that's the problem Lexus has) but it needs to be more obvious, it should not deviate from the one-way implementation, no lists, no sliders etc.

      Here is a one solution for Acura designers: Have your trackpad divide in grid for absolute positioning and keep it like that, make the grid lines light up on the trackpad. When you have a vertical scrolling list on the screen mark each item with a number 1-9 then have your trackpad assign those numbers to the grid fields. No need to scroll with trackpad just tap corresponding number that lights up on the touchpad. Same thing when you have +/- sliders or on/off switches. Either introduce a separate knob for such thing or just use the grid on trackpad and assign those values to it. This way you have a universal way how you use the trackpad, it's always in grid no matter if it's absolute positioning or numbered choice from the list or switcher and sliders. But that's only the half way fix, on screen UI needs fixing as well.
      “It also gets a new CPU for improved performance.” Hopefully this will at least help with the startup issues of the system.

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      10-15-2020 08:43 AM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by CTK View Post
      The Type S will probably cost less than the base GLS/X7 so that evens out.

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      Wait, Acura is positioning this as a GLS/X7 competitor now and not a GLE/X5 one?
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      10-15-2020 08:45 AM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by ND40oz View Post
      Wait, Acura is positioning this as a GLS/X7 competitor now and not a GLE/X5 one?
      I feel like it competes with neither group. More of an in between size. The base engines on the GLE/X7 are the TT6s with the 8cyl being optional. That’s not even on the MDXs radar.

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      10-15-2020 08:54 AM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by ND40oz View Post
      Wait, Acura is positioning this as a GLS/X7 competitor now and not a GLE/X5 one?
      GLE/X5 start as 2 rows and the GLE's base engine is a 4 banger. So one way or another the base MDX will have "more" than those vehicles. I bet it will be roomier too
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      I spent my entire season budget during the off-season on go fast parts, so now I'm wishing I hadn't and had saved a little so I could buy a sim rig.

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      10-15-2020 08:56 AM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by CTK View Post
      GLE/X5 start as 2 rows and the GLE's base engine is a 4 banger. So one way or another the base MDX will have "more" than those vehicles. I bet it will be roomier too
      Yeah but an MDX is a standard 7 passenger vehicle whereas those cars are 5 passenger vehicles with a very rare application of 2 additional jump seats (the third row option is not popular on either model and barely usable).

      I think there is a good value prop in the MDX for that reason, even if it is pushing high 60s when loaded.

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      10-15-2020 09:33 AM #48
      Less than 400 mile range on a full talk of gas.


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      10-15-2020 09:41 AM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by above8k View Post
      Less than 400 mile range on a full talk of gas.
      Assuming that it still has a 19.5 gallon tank, that range number could be based on previously driven MPG, and the car could have been mostly city driven or idled a lot. Even the current MDX would probably go 500 miles if highway driven. 19.5 gallons, 27 mpg highway. And at least filling the tank only takes 5 minutes.
      Americans hate EVs because they grew up with Power Wheels that were glacially slow, ran out of power in 20 minutes and took an entire day to recharge.

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      10-15-2020 10:08 AM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by ice4life View Post
      Yeah but an MDX is a standard 7 passenger vehicle whereas those cars are 5 passenger vehicles with a very rare application of 2 additional jump seats (the third row option is not popular on either model and barely usable).

      I think there is a good value prop in the MDX for that reason, even if it is pushing high 60s when loaded.
      The X5/GLE/Q7/XC90 are all competitors in this space. I can't speak for the GLE but the X5's 3rd row feels roomier than the Q7s and works just as well for my needs as the XC90's 3rd row did. From the press release for the MDX, it didn't make it sound like 3rd row space was improved but the length increase allowed them to give it more cargo area behind the 3rd row so that it could more easily fit a stroller.
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