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      10-13-2020 12:40 PM #2
      I am surprised he could not get one with an engine in it...

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      10-13-2020 12:42 PM #3
      This is the first Ford I'd buy in a very long time. Makes you wonder why there's not a Honda competitor to this and the Wrangler, or even the Jimny stateside. Chevrolet really dropped the ball with the Blazer.
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      10-13-2020 12:49 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by DonPatrizio View Post
      This is the first Ford I'd buy in a very long time. Makes you wonder why there's not a Honda competitor to this and the Wrangler, or even the Jimny stateside. Chevrolet really dropped the ball with the Blazer.
      Of all the brands you could've mentioned you're wondering why Honda doesn't have a competitor to this? A hard core BOF off-roader seems completely out of their wheelhouse.
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      10-13-2020 12:56 PM #5
      I'm sorry I know a lot of you guys love Doug but I always get to about the three minute mark and just can't do it.

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      10-13-2020 01:06 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by UncleJB View Post
      I'm sorry I know a lot of you guys love Doug but I always get to about the three minute mark and just can't do it.
      I just don't care about another SUV hitting the market. Demuro is Ok but could be more entertaining at the same time too.
      You can’t take advantage of “record low” gas prices when you have nowhere to drive. And it’s not really more affordable if you don’t have a paycheck to buy it with.

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      10-13-2020 01:15 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by UncleJB View Post
      I'm sorry I know a lot of you guys love Doug but I always get to about the three minute mark and just can't do it.

      It's that voice. It just makes me cringe.
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      10-13-2020 01:34 PM #8
      Man, I love that thing. I didn't really pay much attention to it until this video and I have to say, that is freakin' awesome. Would I buy one? Yeah, maybe, but it would be hard to justify letting go of my 4Runner.

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      10-13-2020 01:39 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Pushrods View Post
      It's that voice. It just makes me cringe.
      This... is a 2020 thread about Doug Demuro.
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      10-13-2020 01:45 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by UncleJB View Post
      I'm sorry I know a lot of you guys love Doug but I always get to about the three minute mark and just can't do it.
      I can't even make it three minutes. I don't get the appeal.

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      10-13-2020 01:49 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by TangoRed View Post
      Of all the brands you could've mentioned you're wondering why Honda doesn't have a competitor to this? A hard core BOF off-roader seems completely out of their wheelhouse.

      had the same thought - honda?!

      it makes me chuckle that this followed on the heels of the soft roading defender.

      this is definitely a pretty damn compelling wrangler competitor!


      i always see doug as a non car persons idea of a car person.

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      10-13-2020 02:20 PM #12
      Dougs reviews usually leave me disappointed. I like the interior details, but when it comes to driving he generally never goes anywhere to see what makes the car enjoyable or worth owning.

      It's kind of like the E34 M5 vs UrS4 comparo done a while back by Car and Driver.

      Magnum Force: UrS4 vs M5 vs 500e

      The M5 walked away from the competition....

      but they tested it in the southwest, on canyon runs.

      I wonder how that test would have turned out at altitude, or, you know, in varying weather conditions, because I guarantee you when it's dumping fluffy pow on mountain passes, there is no other car I'd rather be driving in the world, apart from maybe a genuine RS2. The combination of boost at altitude, satisfying manual, and real torsen based quattro with a singing 5 cylinder is just... oof.

      I'm rambling, but my point is that unless you take a car to an area where it belongs, what good is your actual review? I didn't watch Doug's review here, but most of hte time he just drives around in LA with traffic everywhere, so now that it's a bronco he actually goes somewhere off the road? Okay, but why not go special places for all the other cars?
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      10-13-2020 02:36 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by ADDvanced View Post

      I'm rambling, but my point is that unless you take a car to an area where it belongs, what good is your actual review? I didn't watch Doug's review here, but most of hte time he just drives around in LA with traffic everywhere, so now that it's a bronco he actually goes somewhere off the road? Okay, but why not go special places for all the other cars?
      I'm guessing but I think his niche is that he focuses on the everyday details the people would use and not really the overall car like most of the other car reviews. If people want to see a particular car in it's environment most manufacturers do that in their commercials so there's no need to show it again. There are also a ton of reviewers that do the "go to place/trach and drive the crap out of the car" so why would he do the exact same thing as everyone else?

      I like Doug and appreciate that he does a review a little different then all of the other reviewers out there.

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      10-13-2020 02:41 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by Pushrods View Post
      It's that voice. It just makes me cringe.
      I see a lot of people acting like his voice is intolerable, and while it certainly isn't the most sonorous voice, I've never found it to be particularly objectionable either.

      Quote Originally Posted by ADDvanced View Post
      Dougs reviews usually leave me disappointed. I like the interior details, but when it comes to driving he generally never goes anywhere to see what makes the car enjoyable or worth owning.

      I'm rambling, but my point is that unless you take a car to an area where it belongs, what good is your actual review? I didn't watch Doug's review here, but most of hte time he just drives around in LA with traffic everywhere, so now that it's a bronco he actually goes somewhere off the road? Okay, but why not go special places for all the other cars?
      I like Doug personally, but his reviews are very focused on styling and interior details. There are plenty of reviews out there that are good at talking about the driving experience of cars, but Doug isn't one of them. Personally, I like what Doug does and think he fills a niche that a lot of other car reviewers aren't interested in.

      As for where he's shooting this, it's a preproduction model that doesn't have an engine, so I suspect it has much more to do with the fact that Doug had to go to the car to review it. This isn't an off-road review with a special location by any means.
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      10-13-2020 03:28 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Pushrods View Post
      It's that voice. It just makes me cringe.
      The voice, the overly emphatic hand gestures, and why is he hiding behind the Bronco so you can only see his head and hands? He does get points for the Portland Sea Dogs shirt though.

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      10-13-2020 03:35 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Pushrods View Post
      It's that voice. It just makes me cringe.
      It's the fact that he's a horrible, amateurish car reviewer that lacks intelligent or articulate engineering or design insight. He somehow makes up for it with the personality of a giant, googly-eyed child that, inexplicably, many people seem to be drawn to.

      Who gives a **** what he has to say about the Bronco, or any car. He's just another hack who has lucked into making a living being an attention whore on Youtube.
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      10-13-2020 03:37 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by aethelwulf View Post
      I like Doug personally, but his reviews are very focused on styling and interior details. There are plenty of reviews out there that are good at talking about the driving experience of cars, but Doug isn't one of them. Personally, I like what Doug does and think he fills a niche that a lot of other car reviewers aren't interested in.
      I agree with you on this; this is what Doug does best - quirky things about cars while seeding his presentation with bits of related history. In all, he does his research well, knows what he's talking about and finds things that are interesting. This is what separates him from the other channels that are focused on driving experiences or spec sheets.

      His delivery isn't great, maybe, but it's decidedly his and his content makes up for most of that. I enjoy his videos, especially on older and more rare cars.

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      10-13-2020 03:42 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by child_in_time View Post
      I am surprised he could not get one with an engine in it...
      That's perfect for Doug, he's really only interested in the styling and interior.
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      i'd lock this thread but i have no clue how...

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      10-13-2020 03:44 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by child_in_time View Post
      I am surprised he could not get one with an engine in it...
      I'm kinda surprised get hot his hands on one that didn't.

      Maybe he'll make another video telling us all about how he got his hands on it.

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      10-13-2020 03:46 PM #20
      Looking forward to watching this. His detailed take on the Defender showed me details and minutia of the design and functions that I had not read or seen in any other review at that time.

      And I don't think Doug has ever pretended to give great driving reviews. For him, and his many millions strong regular audience, it's about design and feature details above all else. A no-engine review is about the Dougy-est Doug that's ever Doug'ed.

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      10-13-2020 03:58 PM #21
      I like how this thread has turned into a TCL review of Doug Demuro.

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      10-13-2020 04:01 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by UncleJB View Post
      I'm sorry I know a lot of you guys love Doug but I always get to about the three minute mark and just can't do it.
      I love Doug. I have watched 100% of his videos, beginning to end.

      He looks at cars like I do: not just something cool to drive or wrench on, but a conglomeration of odd quirks and interesting corporate design and planning decisions. I think his time spent working at Porsche gave him some insight into the car design and development process.

      There are tons of reviewers that do performance tests and track tests of cars. Doug is the only reviewer that actually gives me interesting, funny quirks and lets me see what living with the car, day to day, would be like.

      His voice is fairly comical.

      I've talked to Doug (via e-mail) a few times. He waffled (and then decided not to) review my 47k mile all-original 5-speed 1986 BMW 535is. He's a nice guy, and he's very intelligent. His take on cars (amusing devices with lots of quirks) is similar to mine. I enjoy it.
      But I understand why others don't.

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      10-13-2020 04:11 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by kraut_pauer79 View Post
      It's the fact that he's a horrible, amateurish car reviewer that lacks intelligent or articulate engineering or design insight. He somehow makes up for it with the personality of a giant, googly-eyed child that, inexplicably, many people seem to be drawn to.

      Who gives a **** what he has to say about the Bronco, or any car. He's just another hack who has lucked into making a living being an attention whore on Youtube.
      Somebody is jealous!

      Like others have mentioned, nobody else gives you all of the little details like Doug does. Makes me feel like I have personally experienced sitting in a McLaren F1 or something else I will never get a chance to see.

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      10-13-2020 04:14 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by AHTOXA View Post
      In all, he does his research well, knows what he's talking about and finds things that are interesting.
      This is true, but eeeevery once in a while he will say something that's so incorrect it catches me off guard. I can remember two particular times I had to stop the video and rewind to make sure I heard correctly. Here in the SAAB 9-5 video @8:28 he talks about how he really likes the black painted A-pillars that no one else was doing at the time...

      https://youtu.be/sj2DtHCCa0c?t=509

      ...except for the much more culturally significant, highly influential Nissan GT-R which came out with that style 3 years prior. It's almost certainly where SAAB and everyone else copied that from.



      And then in his G-Wagon convertible reveiw, he talks about how he was expecting the drop-top model to be all flexy and non-ridgid @28:00.

      https://youtu.be/rs0khSZ72Xs?t=1681

      ...uhhh, Doug, it's a body-on-frame vehicle. That roof isn't doing anything regardless. How does Doug of all people not know that?

      It's also funny when he sees something and then just sort of makes up what he thinks was the decision making process behind it and reports it matter-of-factly. But that is obviously just nit-picking. Doug is great overall.

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      10-13-2020 04:30 PM #25
      Y'all better stop hating on my boy

      I remember I got into an argument on Reddit with him one time because I was saying that he comes off a too pretentious and a "know it all" and I really didn't care for all his "and your piece of **** car is too peasant like to have THIS feature"...oddly enough while he did get annoyed I haven't noticed too much of that in his recent videos
      "THIS, is a two-thousand and twenty Doug DeMuro"

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