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    1. Member Hawk's Avatar
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      09-01-2020 09:00 AM #1
      So like many of you, I'm absolutely loving this new trend in paints that you're seeing on many new cars, particularly German ones. I think it's called 'chalk' paint but not sure.

      I'm trying to figure out what makes them look so different? What's the technique that's being used that gives that look to our eyes?

      It's not just that they're non-metallic. It's not that they're flat or matt because they're not. What is it besides the colour that gives the paint his look?

      I've been trying to Google it, but I'm not even sure what I'm asking.



      A few examples.






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      09-01-2020 09:01 AM #2
      What?

      They're just non-metallic colors. Some have greens in the greyscale base, others blue, others yellow, others silver, etc.

      Simple stuff.
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      09-01-2020 09:10 AM #3
      Looks like primer. Do you get a discount for buying an unfinished car?

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      09-01-2020 09:11 AM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by TooFitToQuit View Post
      They're just non-metallic colors.
      Huh, it really doesn't feel like it's just the fact they're not metallic.

      I've seen plenty of non-metallic colour before, but they don't have the LOOk that these new 'Chalk' or 'Crayon' it looks very different to my eye.

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      09-01-2020 09:11 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by troyguitar View Post
      Looks like primer. Do you get a discount for buying an unfinished car?
      Yeah some almost do look like primer with lots of coats of clear.

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      09-01-2020 09:12 AM #6
      I'm also confused. The "look" you describe is simply the effect of non-metallic paint. Metallic paint tricks your eyes by drawing them into the paint.

      Here's a non-metallic green that has the same effect as the gray ones above.


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      09-01-2020 09:12 AM #7
      And here I thought chalk paint was like those single stage painted whites that turn into chalk when you touch them

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      09-01-2020 09:13 AM #8


      Chalky abstract expressionism,
      I can diggit.


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      09-01-2020 09:14 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      Huh, it really doesn't feel like it's just the fact they're not metallic.

      I've seen plenty of non-metallic colour before, but they don't have the LOOk that these new 'Chalk' or 'Crayon' it looks very different to my eye.
      These are just non-metallic greys. That's all.

      I thought you were talking actual chalkboard type paint:

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      09-01-2020 09:15 AM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by masa8888 View Post
      I'm also confused. The "look" you describe is simply the effect of non-metallic paint. Metallic paint tricks your eyes by drawing them into the paint.

      Here's a non-metallic green that has the same effect as the gray ones above.

      Yeah I saw that on a new Audi S5 yesterday and I was like WOW that looks so cool. But I was like, why does that look SOOO DIFFERENT to my eye?

      You can look at non-metallic black, white, grey, red on any car and they still don't have that LOOK to them. Is it they still have some metallic in them it's almost like these are flat with a high gloss or something.

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      09-01-2020 09:18 AM #11
      Explanation: non-metallic paint. Paint that does not have metallic-flake in it. The metallic-flake gives paint a "glitter" effect....
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      The examples you provided are just low-saturation colors which really emphasize the "non-metallic" properties.
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      09-01-2020 09:25 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      Huh, it really doesn't feel like it's just the fact they're not metallic.

      I've seen plenty of non-metallic colour before, but they don't have the LOOk that these new 'Chalk' or 'Crayon' it looks very different to my eye.
      What was the color. It's a non-metallic. Cars have been available in similar colors for decades, it just wasn't always on trend. Cars of this color will be dated to this era since you can get it on Honda Civics and alot of other cars... not just a German luxury car thing. Although I think Audi has been doing it quite a while since they had Nimbus Grey and Aviator Grey on the Mk1 Audi TT
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      09-01-2020 09:29 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by danny_16v View Post
      I think Audi has been doing it quite a while since they had Nimbus Grey and Aviator Grey on the Mk1 Audi TT
      Good call. I forgot about the original TT in nimbus grey. That was probably the firsts time I saw the thing we're talking about here.


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      09-01-2020 09:29 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by iliveoncaffiene View Post
      The examples you provided are just low-saturation colors which really emphasize the "non-metallic" properties.
      Huh. That feels like it's making sense. Low-saturation colours.

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      09-01-2020 09:36 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by troyguitar View Post
      Looks like primer. Do you get a discount for buying an unfinished car?
      I agree. They look dreadful to me. I can't fathom spending $50k or $100k on a car and picking a finish like this. I wonder if sports cars with these finishes will hold their value after this trend comes and goes, or seem very passé in 10 years.

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      09-01-2020 09:38 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      Good call. I forgot about the original TT in nimbus grey. That was probably the firsts time I saw the thing we're talking about here.

      Aviator Grey looks even more "chalky"...



      ...and yeah I know what you're talking about because I was gobsmacked too when I first saw these retro style colors coming back --- I am so glad to see a grand return of non-metallic options!

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      09-01-2020 09:38 AM #17
      I wasn't around for the original wave of "ban hawc" on this site, but damn do I understand it.

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      09-01-2020 09:40 AM #18
      That TTS is graphite blue metallic. Not chalk.
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      09-01-2020 10:06 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by danny_16v View Post
      What was the color. It's a non-metallic. Cars have been available in similar colors for decades, it just wasn't always on trend. Cars of this color will be dated to this era since you can get it on Honda Civics and alot of other cars... not just a German luxury car thing. Although I think Audi has been doing it quite a while since they had Nimbus Grey and Aviator Grey on the Mk1 Audi TT
      Yep - these colors harken back to the 50's - 80's when numerous non-metallic colors were offered.

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      09-01-2020 10:12 AM #20
      I dig those paint treatments. The almost look like they would be silky or somewhat cushiony if you were to touch the panels.
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      09-01-2020 10:14 AM #21
      low saturation and low tone with zero to little metallic additives resulting in muted colors.

      Here's how I think it looks different... (I'm not a professional on this subject). I think the lack of metallic gives the color a certain depth. When you look at it, it just looks like a slab of color, and it sort of hides certain subtle creases and curves and allows strong body lines to stand out. I'd like to see if someone that knows more about this can comment.

      It also provides a very strong contrast to black, which there's plenty of on a car, greenhouse, tires, and stylistically many cars are adding carbon, air scoops, and blacked headlamps/grilles/mirrors and wheels which all stand out against the muted colors.
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      09-01-2020 10:14 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by Toaster29 View Post
      That TTS is graphite blue metallic. Not chalk.
      I really like that colour, there's a 991.2 GTS in that shade locally and it looks really nice.

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      09-01-2020 10:15 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by oidoglr View Post
      I wonder if sports cars with these finishes will hold their value after this trend comes and goes, or seem very passé in 10 years.
      That's what I wonder too. In 7 years when you go to sell this car will people be like "Ugh what's that colour???"

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      09-01-2020 10:16 AM #24
      Chalk is the name of a exterior paint color and interior color from Porsche. Not sure how you made that into a type of exterior paint.

      Quote Originally Posted by r_fostoria View Post
      I wasn't around for the original wave of "ban hawc" on this site, but damn do I understand it.
      It was somehow more funny the first time around. Or I was just younger and more easily amused.
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      09-01-2020 10:54 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      That's what I wonder too. In 7 years when you go to sell this car will people be like "Ugh what's that colour???"
      Not when they are used on Porsche's and Audis, any more than they do when looking at early 911s and 356s:



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