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      08-04-2020 01:16 PM #1
      Gordon Murray has a new baby.

      Nothing has been spared and sooo much to list.

      https://youtu.be/VorejngDjbA
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      08-04-2020 01:21 PM #2


      So it has a bat-mobile rocket?


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      08-04-2020 01:23 PM #3
      Looks amazing. Love the combo of "add lightness" with innovative stuff like the active downforce. A shame production numbers will be so limited- if I ever see one in person it will probably be behind a velvet rope.

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      08-04-2020 01:24 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post


      So it has a bat-mobile rocket?

      Thanks for the photo add

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      08-04-2020 01:55 PM #5
      Jalopnik wrote up a great interview with Gordon Murray. https://jalopnik.com/gordon-murray-d...-an-1844588310

      And Harry's Garage has a video out:

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      08-04-2020 02:07 PM #6


      cool stuff. Gordon Murray developed and raced this a while ago (1977), but it was apparently banned after winning by 34 seconds on it's first race:


      In the midst of the ground effects craze came the realization by Gordon Murray, one of the most creative men in motorsports, that it might be possible to create even more downforce by actively generating a low-pressure area under a vehicle rather than simply relying on passive techniques. What better way to do that than by installing an enormous fan on the rear of the car that — similar in concept to the original Chaparral 2J Can-Am entry — sucked air from beneath the chassis?

      Thus was born the Brabham BT46B, a car that would enter only a single race in 1977 (which it won by a whopping 34 seconds over the second place finisher) before it was banned from further competition. Even better: by outlining that it was “primarily designed to cool the engine,” and not provide “active aerodynamics,” the innovation stayed within the letter of the existing rulebook at the time. Citing stones and other junk being blown at them by the fan, however, and nursing wounded egos at how badly they had been beaten, the other teams complained to the point where Bernie Ecclestone, Brabham’s owner, bowed to the pressure and parked the BT46B forever.
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      08-04-2020 02:20 PM #7
      I can only hope there is a contractual requirement with purchase to drive the car a minimum of 2500 miles a year. Force the collectors to drive what was built to be driven.

      Can't wait for reviews from the likes of Chris harris...if Tiff Nedel isn't one foot in the grave that would be a fun full circle review as well.
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      08-04-2020 02:25 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by col.mustard View Post

      cool stuff. Gordon Murray developed and raced this a while ago (1977), but it was apparently banned after winning by 34 seconds on it's first race:


      It wasn't banned. A certain Bernie Eccelstone owned Brabham in those days, and as he was eyeing stating FOCA (Formula One Constructors' Association), and eventually owning the commercial rights to F1, ever the cunning businessman, he voluntarily pulled the car, appeasing the likes of Lotus' Colin Chapman and the rest of the teams.

      Also, the technicality they used to make the fan legal was that its primary purpose was for engine cooling, and they had the math to show that to be the case. Of course, it was great at cooling the engine, but also at generating downforce.

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      08-04-2020 02:41 PM #9
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      Dat rear offset though
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      08-04-2020 03:00 PM #10
      The specs on this car are drool worthy enough that I can excuse almost any appearance, but--

      - I wish it had dual taillights- those look too Ferrari/Alfa
      - Headlights look cartoony

      So I guess basically just change the lights?

      Also is Peloton still a member on these boards? Wonder what his thoughts are.

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      08-04-2020 03:06 PM #11
      Stats are perfect but I wish I can love how it looks.

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      08-04-2020 03:23 PM #12
      I still see a little F1 in this

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      08-04-2020 03:37 PM #13
      I'm just disappointed the T43 dropped off the face of the earth. I would have loved to own one some day.
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      08-04-2020 03:37 PM #14
      Where's the mirrors? Does it use cameras or something?

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      08-04-2020 03:50 PM #15
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      Dat rear offset though
      I hate how much I agree with this.

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      08-04-2020 03:56 PM #16
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      Not wild about the looks, though...but that powertrain in a ‘32 five window would open a few eyes.

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      08-04-2020 04:03 PM #17
      Obviously an amazing feat of engineering. Exterior styling is a bit of a let down though. I think Peter Steven's touch is missed here. The shoulder curves are a bit broad and lack snap as does the DLO which, I'll add, includes one of those fake, blacked out "windows." The headlights look too big for the size of the car. The very low nose lacks character. The original set a high mark. He exceeds it on performance but not on style.
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      08-04-2020 04:42 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by rlfletch View Post
      Obviously an amazing feat of engineering. Exterior styling is a bit of a let down though. I think Peter Steven's touch is missed here. The shoulder curves are a bit broad and lack snap as does the DLO which, I'll add, includes one of those fake, blacked out "windows." The headlights look too big for the size of the car. The very low nose lacks character. The original set a high mark. He exceeds it on performance but not on style.

      Agree. I also think it would have looked amazing to go the opposite trend of low profile tires and get something a bit meaty all around again. I'm sure it'll be neat and as rare as the F1. But yeah the design is a bit off.
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      08-04-2020 04:52 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by rlfletch View Post
      Obviously an amazing feat of engineering. Exterior styling is a bit of a let down though. I think Peter Steven's touch is missed here. The shoulder curves are a bit broad and lack snap as does the DLO which, I'll add, includes one of those fake, blacked out "windows." The headlights look too big for the size of the car. The very low nose lacks character. The original set a high mark. He exceeds it on performance but not on style.
      I think it's one of those things where it'll look better in person as well, just via the sheer size (or lack thereof). This thing's the same size as a boxster!

      I'm impressed they had the budget to make the car the way they did. It's the first "supercar" that's made me excited in a long time.

      Art house needs to double check their tire textures tho:

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      08-04-2020 06:27 PM #20
      This has a strong resemblance to the F1 and that's not a bad thing. I like it.

      Also, while watching the Drivetribe interview it turns out that the F1 was also a fan car, albeit much small fans. I didn't realize that.

      Wiki entry:
      "The standard McLaren F1 features no wings to produce downforce (compare the LM and GTR editions); however, the overall design of the underbody of the McLaren F1 in addition to a rear diffuser exploits ground effect to improve downforce which is increased through the use of two electric Kevlar fans to further decrease the pressure under the car.[29] A "high downforce mode" can be turned on and off by the driver.[29] At the top of the vehicle, there is an air intake to direct high pressure air to the engine with a low pressure exit point at the top of the very rear.[29] Under each door is a small air intake to provide cooling for the oil tank and some of the electronics.[29] The airflow created by the electric fans not only increases downforce, but the airflow that is created is further exploited through design, by being directed through the engine bay to provide additional cooling for the engine and the ECU.[29] At the front, there are ducts assisted by a Kevlar electric suction fan for cooling of the front brakes.[29]"

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      08-04-2020 07:01 PM #21
      Fek it, how much for just the motor?


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      08-04-2020 08:35 PM #22
      Carfection vid


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      08-04-2020 08:52 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by G0to60 View Post
      Also, while watching the Drivetribe interview it turns out that the F1 was also a fan car, albeit much small fans. I didn't realize that.[29]"
      I knew all about the fans being on the F1 to aid with downforce but this was the first I learned that they aided cooling as well. It truly was a supercar a generation or two ahead of its time.

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      08-04-2020 11:03 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by danny_16v View Post
      Agree. I also think it would have looked amazing to go the opposite trend of low profile tires and get something a bit meaty all around again. I'm sure it'll be neat and as rare as the F1. But yeah the design is a bit off.
      This an interesting idea for the tires/wheels. The rear end is quite a mess as well. I love the idea of the fan and the rifle barrel taillights but, again, the shapes and curves are flacid.
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      08-04-2020 11:11 PM #25
      Gordon Murray is tall AF huh?
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