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    1. Member Spike00513's Avatar
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      06-10-2020 12:22 AM #1
      They slide a lot in the winter, which I guess is doable if you slow down to grandma pace and take 5 years to get to work in the morning

      I heard KO2's are good enough.
      Are they?
      How does it compare to separate tires?
      KO2's all around seems cheapest. Because a set of dedicated studded winter tires is like $1k


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      06-10-2020 12:43 AM #2
      Yes.

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      06-10-2020 12:52 AM #3
      Jack of all, master of none.

      IMO just get a cheap set of winter wheels and toss on some Blizzaks when the snow falls, as that way you can also go smaller diameter (brake clearance considered) and narrower which puts more pressure down on the road and no worries about salting up your regular wheels. That's what I did with an older generation of those tires with a FWD SRT4 and had no problems even going up some gnarly stuff. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...l=Blizzak+WS90

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      06-10-2020 12:54 AM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Deforce View Post
      Yes.

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      Honestly you're probably right
      I'm reading threads now where people are sayin (all season?) KO2's are downright dangerous in snow.

      I guess if going to the mountains to snowboard, it's worth it to have a set.

    6. 06-10-2020 12:56 AM #5
      Snow tires? In SoCal? In early June?

      I'm a gonna say not for you...

    7. 06-10-2020 02:31 AM #6
      I just purchase an all season tires. And that is all I need.
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    8. 06-10-2020 04:40 AM #7
      Yes, all seasons cannot substitute for proper snow tyres. They make a huge difference.

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      06-10-2020 05:51 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Adscript View Post
      I just purchase an all season tires. And that is all I need.
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      06-10-2020 05:59 AM #10
      I ran K02s on my CRV last winter. They're great in deeper snow and slush where they can make use of all the tread depth but on hard pack snow and ice they struggle with their blocky tread pattern and lack of sipes.

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      06-10-2020 07:52 AM #11
      With my move to Florida, I no longer have a need. However, while living in Pittsburgh, they absolutely made a difference. Its worth pointing out that many are no longer referred to as "snow" tires, instead being call winter tires now. The pliability of the rubber is maintained at much lower temps than your typical all (no) season. Stopping distance is often the major factor that is improved with winter tires.
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    13. 06-10-2020 10:42 AM #12
      Yes, definitely. I can drive easily on winter tires in conditions that would be frightening on all-seasons, even the best all-seasons.

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      06-10-2020 10:48 AM #13
      Interesting. This thread normally pops up around October/November. Interesting to see it pop up in June
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      06-10-2020 10:53 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      Interesting. This thread normally pops up around October/November. Interesting to see it pop up in June
      The way things are going an Ice Age isn't out of the question at this point.

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      06-10-2020 10:55 AM #15
      I think the answer is no, you don't really need them since people have been driving without them for a long time.

      But of course they are your safest option in snow and if you have the means to get them, they are a great thing to have.

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      06-10-2020 11:36 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Spike00513 View Post
      They slide a lot in the winter, which I guess is doable if you slow down to grandma pace and take 5 years to get to work in the morning

      I heard KO2's are good enough.
      Are they?
      How does it compare to separate tires?
      KO2's all around seems cheapest. Because a set of dedicated studded winter tires is like $1k
      I wouldn't get studded snow tires unless you expect to be driving mostly on an actual snow surface for the entire winter. Maybe if you are moving to Fairbanks that makes sense. For a place like California or Colorado where you'll be driving on mostly dry roads with snow every week or two, you just want a good set of winter tires.

      A good set of winter tires is totally transformative though and are a big safety increase if you will be driving on snow/ice on anything like a regular basis.

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      06-10-2020 11:41 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      Interesting. This thread normally pops up around October/November. Interesting to see it pop up in June
      Yeah, and from a "SoCal" account? lots of newbie accounts out there right now doing weird things.

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      Anyway, if you live where there is a lot of snow, snow tires are a huge asset and worth the inventment.

      There are a number of all-terrain truck tires like the BFG that have a winter-mountain-snowflake designation but in my first-hand experience, they do not compare to a real, dedicated snow/winter tire. They are good in deeper snow but in the icy/slushy/wet/cold/dry/ICE! varying road conditions we have in New England, they are merely "adequate" imo.

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      06-10-2020 11:42 AM #18
      Not so much "snow" tires but "winter" tires. The rubber compound, along with more siping, perform better in colder temps. It does come down to where you live and the regions you drive in. We spend a lot of time in the mountains in the winter for work, we are in the ski industry. I run Blizzaks on the Alltrack and Snowflake tires on the Yukon XL.
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      06-10-2020 12:05 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Deforce View Post
      Yes.

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      Quote Originally Posted by boogetyboogety View Post
      Snow tires? In SoCal? In early June?

      I'm a gonna say not for you...
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      06-10-2020 12:36 PM #20
      Everyone's needs are different. If I lived in Minnesnowta or Massachussetts and winters were reliably rough, yes I'd get some. If I lived in say, Virginia which is hit or miss for snow and gets cleaned up fairly quickly, I'd just rock all seasons. Plus if you only have all seasons, you can call out of work on snow days!
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      06-10-2020 12:54 PM #21
      Winter tires make a huge difference, especially in my RWD caddy.
      I had FWD cars with good all seasons, and they did just fine as long as the A/S tires were 1-2 years old max. After that, they became dangerous in snow.

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      06-10-2020 01:23 PM #22
      Yes. As personal info my FiST on dedicated crappy snows and my Miata on Arctic Alpines were dramatically better than my WRX or A4 were on performance all-seasons. It is the realization of how good snows/summers are as a combo that made me stop wanting AWD since I don't have to put up with the extra weight, parasitic power loss, and added complexity for something that just ain't that great on normal-ish roads. I would rather take a well-sorted FWD car (like my former FIST or current GLI) over a AWD barge.

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      06-10-2020 01:42 PM #23
      Yes. I rather be in a AWD SUV with 3PMS tires in a R2 condition than a AWD SUV with all-season tires in a R2 condition,

      especially you're going to Big Bear from LA, since Rte 330 and Rte 18 is a curvy mountain road with a steep drop off if you can't steer.

      2WD vehicles require snow chains regardless if you have a 3PMS tire or not in a R2 condition.

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      06-10-2020 01:44 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by BsickPassat View Post
      Yes. I rather be in a AWD SUV with 3PMS tires in a R2 condition than a AWD SUV with all-season tires in a R2 condition,

      especially you're going to Big Bear from LA, since Rte 330 and Rte 18 is a curvy mountain road with a steep drop off if you can't steer.

      2WD vehicles require snow chains regardless if you have a 3PMS tire or not in a R2 condition.
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      06-10-2020 01:44 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
      Yeah, and from a "SoCal" account? lots of newbie accounts out there right now doing weird things.

      ------------

      Anyway, if you live where there is a lot of snow, snow tires are a huge asset and worth the inventment.

      There are a number of all-terrain truck tires like the BFG that have a winter-mountain-snowflake designation but in my first-hand experience, they do not compare to a real, dedicated snow/winter tire. They are good in deeper snow but in the icy/slushy/wet/cold/dry/ICE! varying road conditions we have in New England, they are merely "adequate" imo.
      It does snow in SoCal.
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