The non-alcantara steering wheel is clutch.
Hoping to place an order for a GTS 4.0 about a year from now. The GT4 is undoubtedly cool, but I will never track the thing, and the GTS gets me the 95% I'm content with on the street. Still, I think the GT4 is the best value prop of any current Porsche.
The black door handles I'm not a huge fan of but... they don't really bother me that much.
I was originally set on the silver stitching and thought the yellow was going to be too much - but this has definitely changed my mind about that. I actually love the full yellow stitching.
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Very very nice! I got to drive four? five? different Porsches back in 2017 at Mid America as part of a Porsche driving event; I fell in love with the Cayman GTS.
If you find entertaining drives around Cleveland, please share. Judging by the complex, I'm betting your either west side or south of the city, but for me, I head east for curvy roads.
Riverview Rd. heading south into Akron: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.3...m3!4m2!3e0!5i1
Hwy 252 west of Strongsville (freshly paved within the last couple years, smooth blacktop, and 45+ speed limit): https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Gibb...d41.192527!3e0
Southeast, but ~3 hour drive:
And for the best you can get if you're willing to road trip it, the Hocking Hills around Athens/Nelsonville: https://email@example.com,-82.3349257,11z
I've been thinking about Porsche gearing lately and had the following thought regarding the high hp models like these 4.0L 718's or GT3 911's. Based on the power level 1st has to be kind of long does it not? A fairly light car with 400 to 500 hp and a short first gear would be basically undrivable at full throttle, it would blow through 1st and into the rev limiter so fast you couldn't possibly catch it. I've never read anyone who says that 1st feels terrible. Now if 1st is reasonable at WOT I'm guessing there is a magic number of seconds (3?) that Porsche thinks a gear should be in at WOT. If 2nd was short with a 65mph redline point then you would blow through second in 1.5 seconds at WOT, I don't know about you guys but I'm not Mark Weber and I doubt I could bang through gears in 1.5 seconds.
I get it that the gears feel too long for the street but I think this is just a side effect of the cars being TOO FAST for WOT on the street. Unless we were going to build a wide open autobahn style road system these cars will never be fully exploitable legally on the street.
My base 987.2 tops out at 110kph in 2nd vs these 4.0L cars that top out at 130kph in second, I'm guessing time at WOT in each gear is basically the same, just the the new cars need to come with a get out of jail free card.
I've heard that the 991.2 Carrera T's had shorter gearing, which combined with the lower redline and mid range torque made for a fairly frenetic driving experience.
Porsche also consistently seems far more concerned with 10/10 performance and tracks than they are with being able to gun it from 2-4k RPM on the street. I don't think 1st in these is so short to damage the all-out 0-60 time much, and that time isn't of much importance on the track anyway. I know in my 718 S, the torque is clearly being limited from around 1500 to 4000 RPM. That's great for being linear on the track, but it's clear they are choosing that at the expense of a low-RPM rocket.
As for 1st gear, right now it feels ragged if I push the RPMs high in it - almost like it's begging me to short shift and really start using 2nd gear. This could be due to me only having ~120mi on it too...
Also, 6th is definitely not the same as the PDK 7th gear in the other Caymans. I could cruise comfortably in 7th at 80mph around 2500rpm(?guessing?). The GT4 would have me at ~3300rpm in 6th at 80mph
As far as 7th, yeah, definitely not 1:1 with PDK or even the 7MT in the 911. PDK gears aren't quite as bad but they're still tall, and the 3/4/5 in the MT are pretty closely spaced. And yeah, I imagine high RPM in any gear with a three-digit-odometer wouldn't be a particularly happy on a high performance motor like that. Break in is a PITA, but the good news is, odometers only go up.
Gotten to over 200 miles so far and I have some better driving impressions:
- The suspension is so much better than my original 718 Base. It does not get unsettled by anything and just eats up road imperfections. You feel them, but they're not affecting the ride.
- Along with the suspension, the steering is a little lighter than my 718 - still insanely communicative but lighter. Also, the steering seems to follow road imperfections more as well - this could be just due to the default setup. Its not bad, it's just something I noticed.
- PSE on/off makes minimal difference to my ears
- Sport suspension setting isn't drastic, but it becomes a little bouncier on harsher roads
- Gearbox is super notchy in some gears right now, especially 1st. Hope this will smooth out as I drive it more
- Tire noise + engine noise does not make this a nice highway cruiser listening to tunes, but I sort of expected this
- I have not owned a N/A car before, so I'm having to get used to the instant throttle response. It's quite intoxicating
- Even at 2-3k RPM there is plenty of torque. You absolutely do not need to wring it out to have fun.
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Anyone can post pics of a GT4. I want an exhaust clip!
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Most expect the next iteration to possibly have a hybrid variant as well.
There's also not been so much as a mule shot of the new 718