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      03-28-2020 09:44 AM #1
      So my dad sent me this photo of a GTO kit car he saw in a parking lot in Melbourne Beach, Florida. My dad is adamantly saying its real. I say no way.


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      03-28-2020 09:47 AM #2
      Your pops spotted a replica.
      Here's a real one for reference (hope the image works):
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      Damnit I love the real ones

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    5. 03-28-2020 10:05 AM #4
      Show your dad the pic that -DWM- posted and point out the door handle to him.


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      you never know what you'll see in Florida --- a couple of years ago I was working in Jupiter and saw a Facel Vega in a parking lot. It was a jawdropper. Sadly I didn't have a camera, but I looked it over for a few good minutes, it was black with red interior.

      I couldn't believe that someone was driving it around in real life and how it was just casually parked next to all the other common beaters.
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      03-28-2020 10:25 AM #5
      OP, the proof is simple:

      If it's being driven, it's fake.
      If it's being trailered or in storage, it's real.

      And good God that real 250 is just plain gorgeous.

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      03-28-2020 10:29 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by StressStrain View Post
      OP, the proof is simple:

      If it's being driven, it's fake.
      If it's being trailered or in storage, it's real.

      And good God that real 250 is just plain gorgeous.
      I tired explaining it to him when he asked, “How do you know it’s fake?” “Because someone who owns a real GTO doesn’t have to go pickup their own paper towels.” That’s the only proof I had on a moments notice.

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      03-28-2020 10:31 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by stiggy-pug View Post
      Show your dad the pic that -DWM- posted and point out the door handle to him.


      . . .

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      you never know what you'll see in Florida --- a couple of years ago I was working in Jupiter and saw a Facel Vega in a parking lot. It was a jawdropper. Sadly I didn't have a camera, but I looked it over for a few good minutes, it was black with red interior.

      I couldn't believe that someone was driving it around in real life and how it was just casually parked next to all the other common beaters.
      Is this replica 280z based?

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      03-28-2020 10:44 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by candy11 View Post
      Is this replica 280z based?
      Was wondering that myself. That thing is so bad
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      03-28-2020 10:46 AM #9
      Definitely fake pic, carrying a pack of toilet-paper and a pack paper-towels in the middle of the day is your first clue.

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      03-28-2020 10:50 AM #10
      I agree it's probably a replica, here's what looks off to me:

      • Hood line (too big)
      • Rear fenders look too "sharp" where they meet the roofline
      • Door handles appear wrong


      That said, if it is a replica, it's not a bad one; I had to spend some time looking to find those things. On many replicas you can tell right away from the windshield/A-pillars and that didn't give it away. It may have started out as 250 Berlinetta or something.

      Quote Originally Posted by candy11
      I tired explaining it to him when he asked, “How do you know it’s fake?” “Because someone who owns a real GTO doesn’t have to go pickup their own paper towels.” That’s the only proof I had on a moments notice.
      Not sure that's much proof. Supposedly Warren Buffet drives to McDonalds every morning for a $3 breakfast.

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      03-28-2020 10:51 AM #11
      Wrong door handles.
      Wrong roof line.
      Wrong door windows.
      Wrong fog lights.
      Wrong wipers.
      Looks like it's missing the rear spoiler.

      Still looks pretty good (on the surface) for a replicar.

    13. 03-28-2020 11:03 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Senior Member View Post
      Definitely fake pic, carrying a pack of toilet-paper and a pack paper-towels in the middle of the day is your first clue.

      That cracked me up when I noticed it,
      also his expression:




      Replica owners seem to love emblems, badges, and the general paraphernalia associated with whatever replica they own.

      Trying too hard in most cases, they should have more of a sense of humor.

      Dude should be wearing this shirt:



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      03-28-2020 11:24 AM #13
      Most GTO replicas are 240z or 280z based. You can usually spot it by looking at the wind shield. Nice fake though! I saw one at Laguna a few years ago during car week that took me a bit to decipher.
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      03-28-2020 11:35 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by Sold Over Sticker View Post
      Most GTO replicas are 240z or 280z based.
      Bingo. The panel gap for the door beneath the a-pillar is close to a 250GTO but is a dead ringer on the fairlady. Same with the little curve in the windshield trim right above it.


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      03-28-2020 12:05 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Sold Over Sticker View Post
      Most GTO replicas are 240z or 280z based. You can usually spot it by looking at the wind shield. Nice fake though! I saw one at Laguna a few years ago during car week that took me a bit to decipher.
      That is what it is, scrolled down to post it.

      Same rear view mirror on the same shaped windshield. See the rear defrost cable hanging down in the rear window corner? My 74 has the same one. The exposed headlight bucket and trim is the same if you've ever had the headlights out of the car you'll recognize them. The shape of the sunvisor. Z door handles.

      100% an S30. A shame to ruin such a beautiful car really.

      Add to that the awful panel gap fitment between the hood and the fiberglass front end. And the simple fact the turn signal lights ahead of the front wheels don't have the 250 GTO's bulges.
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    17. 03-28-2020 12:49 PM #16
      Maybe the owner is a faculty member at the Florida Institute of Technology?

      https://www.reddit.com/r/spotted/com..._institute_of/

      :

      Maybe purchased in Orlando?

      https://www.carscoops.com/2017/11/da...0-gto-replica/

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      Or perhaps it was bought at Mecum's Kissimmee auction?

      https://classiccars.com/listings/vie...-florida-32824


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      Admittedly all crazy speculation on my part!

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      03-28-2020 01:05 PM #17
      Man, that "replica" (I use the term very loosely here) looks pretty darn bad compared to the Z car it once was.

      But this:

      Quote Originally Posted by -DWM- View Post


      I'm not typically a fan of "curvy" car designs but the 250 GTO and the Toyota 2000gt are just so beautiful, while oozing raw performance. Especially given the era they were made. I can't imagine how much of an impact they had at the time.
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      03-28-2020 01:08 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by stiggy-pug View Post
      Maybe the owner is a faculty member at the Florida Institute of Technology?

      https://www.reddit.com/r/spotted/com..._institute_of/

      :

      Maybe purchased in Orlando?

      https://www.carscoops.com/2017/11/da...0-gto-replica/

      :

      Or perhaps it was bought at Mecum's Kissimmee auction?

      https://classiccars.com/listings/vie...-florida-32824


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      Admittedly all crazy speculation on my part!
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      03-28-2020 01:16 PM #19
      Not that I don't love straight 6s and Fairlady Z's, but after seeing that I need to share the real deal 250GTO engine, complete with absolutely glorious velocity stacks:


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      03-28-2020 01:39 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by stiggy-pug View Post
      Maybe the owner is a faculty member at the Florida Institute of Technology?

      https://www.reddit.com/r/spotted/com..._institute_of/
      I think that's the car. Same city, mirror location, second sticker on the passenger window, and sliding side windows (could be a line in the glass to emulate the sliding glass) all match up.

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      03-28-2020 07:31 PM #22
      The fact that it isn’t even a carbureted Z car somehow makes this infinitely worse...
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      03-28-2020 08:42 PM #23
      Its not even a good replica.

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      03-28-2020 08:58 PM #24
      That could've been a really cool Z. *sigh*
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      03-30-2020 08:50 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by @McMike View Post
      I think that's the car. Same city, mirror location, second sticker on the passenger window, and sliding side windows (could be a line in the glass to emulate the sliding glass) all match up.
      Wow. That is amazing. Yea FIT is really close to my parents house. Has to be the same car. Bravo on the find

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