2018 Toyota Highlander SE AWD, Midnight Black Metallic/Black
2018 Four Winns H210 / 5.3L Volvo Penta V8 300 / DPS-A Duoprop drive
Past: 1998 Accord V6 LX, 2007 Mazdaspeed 3 (KIA 2-24-11), 2009 Mazdaspeed 3 (KIA 9-19-11), 2003 Jetta GLS 2.slow (good riddance), 2010 VW GTI, 2011 Toyota Camry, 2006 NC Miata
New platforms only matter when there is obvious opportunity for improvement. For example there is no reason the ILX/TLX should be on the previous and seriously inferior platforms vs the 10th gen Civic/Accord. But if the Pilot is competitive in its sector with an "old" platform/powertrain that just speaks to how ahead of the time its bones were.
But if Ford actually does care, then they've really got their work cut out for them with the mid-cycle refresh. Hopefully a much-improved interior and fine-tuning of certain dynamics aren't too much to ask. I'm really hoping for it because I actually love the styling, I think they look great on the road and I'd love to see it become a truly excellent SUV, I think the potential is certainly there.
Dirty secret in the auto industry is that what Ford did with the Explorer isn't uncommon: when you don't have the resources (or the will), you just pump out something "acceptable" that you know the faithful will purchase.
The Explorer is a prime example of this model. Sometimes it's done to goose profit margins, sometimes because companies get lazy, but it almost always, ultimately, bites you in the arse. Take your customers for granted, and eventually, they do catch on.
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I am shocked the Ascent is ranked 2th. There are probably a lot of Subie-fans at C&D. I was rather deceived by it, specially with that appalling engine. Honestly it is like if the Mazda and Subaru have been swapped by mistake. I am ok with the Honda and the Telluride where they are.
Problem with the Telluride isn’t the car so much as the dealerships. Most around here are catering to to the “what can I get for $199 a month?” crowd.
Damn shame about the Explorer, I actually really liked the previous gen. Maybe they'll get their **** together in the next refresh.
If I were making the list myself, the Mazda and VW would rank a lot higher, and the Chevy and Toyota a bit lower, but overall I can't really fault their top three. Kia really nailed it with the Telluride - too bad most buyers will rule it out on brand alone.
Give me the Highlander hybrid
...and they didn't take it in the 405, where most people will be on, instead of of Palos Verdes roads
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2016 Tiguan SE 4MotionOriginally Posted by Jezza
APR Stage 1/DDM Tuning Ultra HID 5500K/Neuspeed P-flo/AEM Dryflow BruteForce filter
I'll agree on the plastics commentary concerning the Atlas, otherwise I couldn't agree less.
Car sickness? We drove our Atlas all over the Mid-Atlantic, Midwest, Ontario and now the Benelux. My kids have never been sick or complained about anything like it. I've also never had an issue with the HP numbers or a "jerky" transmission.
Comparisons like this really beg for long term testing...