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    1. 03-28-2020 02:04 PM #101
      Quote Originally Posted by @McMike View Post
      I haven't tried it, but I'm pretty sure you can back into a bollard with this CR-V and not damage the hatch.
      The real question is will you be able to get the parts quickly for the Model Y if you do get into an accident.

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    3. 03-29-2020 02:27 PM #102
      Quote Originally Posted by @McMike View Post
      Speaking of rear design, check this out.

      The rear hatch extends down into the bumper, so even the slightest fender bender is likely going to need a hatch replacement too. Ooof.

      Agree, good catch and looks like an EV fan boi site has picked it up too:

      https://www.google.com/amp/s/insidee...hatchback/amp/

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      03-29-2020 08:03 PM #103
      Volvo XC40 also has the same tailgate design.

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      03-29-2020 08:15 PM #104
      Quote Originally Posted by sandwich-chris View Post
      Volvo XC40 also has the same tailgate design.
      Looks like the black plastic bumper sticks out slightly further than the hatch.


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      03-29-2020 08:53 PM #105
      Let's hope the lower part of the hatch lid can be removed and replaced independently of the main section.
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      03-29-2020 09:47 PM #106
      Quote Originally Posted by Burnette View Post
      Agree, good catch and looks like an EV fan boi site has picked it up too:

      https://www.google.com/amp/s/insidee...hatchback/amp/
      Not surprised. InsideEVs also reposted all of my Rivian Blackwood images.

      https://insideevs.com/news/397520/ri...ackwood-truck/

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      03-29-2020 09:54 PM #107
      First generation Tiguan, second generation Escape, last generation Rav4, lots of other cars have this same feature. Fact of the matter is if you get rear ended enough to push the bumper in, even if the lift gate is set up normally (above bumper) it's still going to get damaged. I don't see this as a deal breaker.
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      03-30-2020 10:00 AM #108
      Quote Originally Posted by chucchinchilla View Post
      First generation Tiguan, second generation Escape, last generation Rav4, lots of other cars have this same feature. Fact of the matter is if you get rear ended enough to push the bumper in, even if the lift gate is set up normally (above bumper) it's still going to get damaged. I don't see this as a deal breaker.
      Agree, Caddy XT4 is the same, but because this is a Tesla they didn't design it properly...

    10. 03-30-2020 11:19 AM #109
      Quote Originally Posted by sandwich-chris View Post
      Agree, Caddy XT4 is the same, but because this is a Tesla they didn't design it properly...
      Because it's a hugely hyped brand with a model that ain't necessarily cheap with news that replacement parts are few and far between.

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      04-06-2020 10:47 PM #111
      I already spotted one in the wild...it is as boring as **** in person with the same dumpy proportions that the 3 suffers. Quick as hell though.. I wwatched him silently pull away in traffic at a quickening rate you don't see a cute-ute do.

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      04-16-2020 02:50 PM #113
      Takes delivery of early production new model from Tesla, shocked it has QC issues.
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      04-16-2020 02:53 PM #114
      It really amazes me more and more every time I think about it that people go crazy over BMW's grilles or Audi's fake exhaust. Then they see this: the Tesla Model Y (which imo is one of the ugliest new cars on the market) and praise it. This thing is hideous.

    16. 04-16-2020 03:46 PM #115
      Quote Originally Posted by swedesc View Post
      This thing is hideous.
      It's cute and generic. Looks like a transportation 'Pod'.

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      04-16-2020 03:51 PM #116
      Quote Originally Posted by swedesc View Post
      It really amazes me more and more every time I think about it that people go crazy over BMW's grilles or Audi's fake exhaust. Then they see this: the Tesla Model Y (which imo is one of the ugliest new cars on the market) and praise it. This thing is hideous.
      Styling is very much in the eye of the beholder.

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      04-16-2020 05:29 PM #117
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      It's cute and generic. Looks like a transportation 'Pod'.
      I saw one in real life a few days ago when leaving the grocery store. I was SUPER surprised since my town is sort of small but we have so many Tesla’s. It was white and when I saw it approaching as I was crossing the street I thought it was just another model 3. Then I saw the side profile and was thrown off. This car looks so narrow and tall in real life. It’s really off. Few minutes later as I’m packing the groceries in my car, a Model X drove into the parking lot. Next to the Model Y the Model X looks like a masterpiece and the Model Y looks like the deformed knockoff Chinese version. All in all while my XC90 may be significantly slower than both I was happy to be driving it over those other cars. Looks are subjective though and not really measurable. What can measured is how much money Tesla will make from the Model Y and they’ll probably sell a lot.


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      04-16-2020 05:45 PM #118
      Its a smaller model X for normal people (based on the 3)...i mean what did people expect.

      While i’ll say the volvo looks good its let down by the powertrain. When i shopped for my cuv no way i was paying 70k for a 4cyl.
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      04-16-2020 08:00 PM #119
      The Model X has grown on me lately. But the falcon doors are stupid and need to go.

    21. 04-16-2020 08:43 PM #120
      Quote Originally Posted by Yuppie Scum View Post
      The Model X has grown on me lately. But the falcon doors are stupid and need to go.
      I don't mind the Model Y styling. It appears from Sandy Munro's teardown that Tesla has been learning - it's the best-designed and the best-built Tesla so far, and it doesn't have the dumb gee-whiz asking-for-trouble features like falcon-wing doors. And it's a 5-door hatchback, fixing the 3's lack thereof.

      I'm still not buying one.

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      04-16-2020 10:08 PM #121
      Quote Originally Posted by gti5dr06 View Post
      Its a smaller model X for normal people (based on the 3)...i mean what did people expect.

      While i’ll say the volvo looks good its let down by the powertrain. When i shopped for my cuv no way i was paying 70k for a 4cyl.
      Yes, I would definitely give Volvo more praise if they put a 3 liter turbo inline 6 in it. But for me it's a nonissue. The 4 cylinder almost deterred us from the vehicle altogether. We cross hopped the Range Rover Sport and Audi Q7. Volvo undercut both by around 10k. I don't really drive spiritedly in an SUV. Ours is used for comfort and hauling. The car is extremely smooth and quiet even when flooring it, which I love. It also has a higher towing capacity than our old V8 XC90 and is much quicker. But I can't criticize anyone for wanting a 6 or 8 cylinder at this price point.

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