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      03-16-2020 12:20 PM #2


      I don't think the styling will sell the car, but the hatch should. I've had half and half between hatches and sedans and honestly it is hard to justify a sedan if you can get a hatchback for similar money.

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      03-16-2020 01:06 PM #3
      It's a shame they didn't have their usual camera gear, I would have liked to see more driving/action shots from more angles. Either way, it looks very compelling. I'm not sure if, for me personally, it's worth the premium over the 3, but for many/maybe most people, I would say that yes it is.

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      03-16-2020 01:27 PM #5
      Woof---this has the proportions of a Micro Machine toy. Their sedans are so much better looking, and particularly, better proportioned.

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      03-16-2020 02:23 PM #6
      I wonder if the blacked out bits (handles, etc) would swap to a 3? Probably not worth the effort above vinyl or dip though.

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      03-17-2020 08:45 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by 6cylVWguy View Post
      Woof---this has the proportions of a Micro Machine toy. Their sedans are so much better looking, and particularly, better proportioned.
      Tesla, BMW, Benz, and Audi have all really latched onto this "SUV Coupe" styling trend.
      I don't think the Model Y is any better or worse than any of those other vehicles, from a styling perspective.
      The German brands, however, at least offer regular "square-backed" versions of all their fastback SUVs.
      Since Tesla already has the Model X as a fastback, it might have been nice to make Model Y with a more conventional SUV profile.
      This would have helped distinguish it from the 3 and X visually.

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      03-17-2020 12:32 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by 6cylVWguy View Post
      Woof---this has the proportions of a Micro Machine toy. Their sedans are so much better looking, and particularly, better proportioned.
      QFT.

      Tesla wants to differentiate so strongly that they eschew conventional design proportions and end up with this misshapen lump. The Y's proportions are so far off that it makes the 3 look squat and sleek.

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      03-24-2020 06:44 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by 6cylVWguy View Post
      Woof---this has the proportions of a Micro Machine toy. Their sedans are so much better looking, and particularly, better proportioned.
      IDK, the Model 3's greenhouse looks swollen. I hated it when I first saw it, and I still hate it now.

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      03-16-2020 01:22 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by AZGolf View Post
      I don't think the styling will sell the car, but the hatch should. I've had half and half between hatches and sedans and honestly it is hard to justify a sedan if you can get a hatchback for similar money.
      IMO the hatch is what the Model 3 should have come with from the beginning. I know they had their reasons (mfg cost, Musk had to have that full glass roof, maybe they knew it would compete with future Model Y, etc.) but still.
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      03-16-2020 05:16 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by AZGolf View Post
      The styling of the rear valence draws my eye to where the dual exhaust isn't.

      Y?

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      03-16-2020 05:19 PM #12
      It looks too close in size to the Model 3. Maybe that's all a visual trick though.

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      03-16-2020 08:08 PM #13
      Those guys are well connected to have a Y so quickly available. They said that they borrowed it from a new customer.

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      03-16-2020 08:49 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by BlakeV View Post
      Those guys are well connected to have a Y so quickly available. They said that they borrowed it from a new customer.
      Is that customer named Musk?

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      03-17-2020 12:33 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by CostcoPizza View Post
      It looks too close in size to the Model 3. Maybe that's all a visual trick though.
      Isn't it supposed to just be a taller Model 3 with a lift/hatchback?
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      03-28-2020 11:54 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Lwize View Post
      The styling of the rear valence draws my eye to where the dual exhaust isn't.
      Speaking of rear design, check this out.

      The rear hatch extends down into the bumper, so even the slightest fender bender is likely going to need a hatch replacement too. Ooof.


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      03-28-2020 01:18 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by @McMike View Post
      Speaking of rear design, check this out.

      The rear hatch extends down into the bumper, so even the slightest fender bender is likely going to need a hatch replacement too. Ooof.

      Pretty much every modern CUV is built like this. Rav-4, CR-V, etc. Makes loading easier.
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      03-28-2020 01:52 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by dwagner88 View Post
      Pretty much every modern CUV is built like this. Rav-4, CR-V, etc. Makes loading easier.
      I haven't tried it, but I'm pretty sure you can back into a bollard with this CR-V and not damage the hatch.


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      03-28-2020 02:02 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by @McMike View Post
      Speaking of rear design, check this out.

      The rear hatch extends down into the bumper, so even the slightest fender bender is likely going to need a hatch replacement too. Ooof.

      Good catch. That sucks big time.
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    20. 03-29-2020 02:27 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by @McMike View Post
      Speaking of rear design, check this out.

      The rear hatch extends down into the bumper, so even the slightest fender bender is likely going to need a hatch replacement too. Ooof.

      Agree, good catch and looks like an EV fan boi site has picked it up too:

      https://www.google.com/amp/s/insidee...hatchback/amp/

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      03-29-2020 08:03 PM #21
      Volvo XC40 also has the same tailgate design.

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      03-29-2020 09:47 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by Burnette View Post
      Agree, good catch and looks like an EV fan boi site has picked it up too:

      https://www.google.com/amp/s/insidee...hatchback/amp/
      Not surprised. InsideEVs also reposted all of my Rivian Blackwood images.

      https://insideevs.com/news/397520/ri...ackwood-truck/

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      03-17-2020 08:39 PM #23
      I think the Mach-E looks so much better. It’s all in the details, despite the same basic shape.


    24. 03-17-2020 08:45 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
      I think the Mach-E looks so much better. It’s all in the details, despite the same basic shape.

      I think they're both hideous but agree that the Mach E is at least distinctive.

      I'll give them both a pass on interiors, the tablet stuck on the dash seems to be a thing that EV peeps like, so it's all good

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      03-18-2020 12:52 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by Burnette View Post
      I think they're both hideous but agree that the Mach E is at least distinctive.

      I'll give them both a pass on interiors, the tablet stuck on the dash seems to be a thing that EV peeps like, so it's all good
      I'm not a fan of the vertical tablet in the Mach-E, it ruins the lines of the dash. A horizontal mounting or mounting the screen lower vis-a-vis Model S would solve the problem. Same ugly issue w/the fancy screen in the new Explorer, just looks bad. For those reasons I'd give the Model Y the advantage.
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