And I would venture to say that chances are a new A3 will cool a driver faster than an A-Class on a 100 degree day. If you disagree, that's fine too. I'm not an automotive HVAC scientist or engineer, it's just a hunch
What is regressing about the interior design and ergonomics?
So make it pop up if the car goes in reverse. Once car is in a forward moving gear, let me press the button to make it go down.
Wife didn't believe that you couldn't get it down while driving, so the other day she smooshed it down in there herself.
It came right back up.
"Of course that's just my opinion; I could be wrong."
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A lot of dash stroking/hating in here!
All I know is I was impressed when I test drove a pre-owned '18 RS3 several weeks ago. Impressed with the performance, sound, AND interior layout/material quality. I come from a long line of poverty-spec interiors though so I suppose I'm easily impressed!
Anyone want to discuss mechanical differences between the upcoming & current generation?
Seems like basically the same chassis, same wheelbase. Probably same 2.5T engine. This seems to be the case with all manufacturers current "new" generations. No one is investing in all-new chassis unless they incorporate hybrid or all-electric motor options?
Biggest difference I see are the gorgeous fender bulges in the new generation render! Planning on buying a '20 this fall...hope new fenders (similar to M2) don't make me regret my decision!
Current: '17 Tundra, '16 3 GT
Past/Sold: '13 Evo, '08 Si, '12 Mustang GT, '03 Evo VIII, '01 Golf 1.8T
New Golf and A3 are on the updated MQB architecture. It's an evolution, not revolution, like the first gen models. Since everything is now modularized, there's no real need to throw the baby out with the bathwater for each generation, so you get incremental improvements.
The big push this time around was to improve manufacturing and assembly efficiency. Everything else is pretty much an evolution of what was there before: suspension, drive trains, HVAC, infotainment.
I'm betting on driveline remaining largely unchanged with a slight power bump but I am also betting on a new rear diff to allow some type of drift mode, solely because the competition is doing it. Apparently if they do that though that style of diff is a lot less strong than current.
Flares I can see going either way but I would have to imagine if they were going to invest in new sheetmetal for the quarterpanels and rear doors they would have done it already.
So journalists have been driving the new S3 prototypes. There are some interesting tidbits regarding the AWD system which will of course carryover to the new RS3 and Golf R.
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-re.../s3-sportback/Haldex 6 and a new generation of Quattro all-wheel drive
One of the main higlights of the 2020 Audi S3 family is its drivetrain. Part of the reason this model has become a significant seller, accounting for one in five A3 sales in the UK, is its all-weather ability and grippy Quattro all-wheel drive. New for the fourth generation is a brand new Haldex 6 multi-plate clutch slung under the boot floor, apportioning drive front and rear in a more sophisticated way than systems from the past two decades.
It’s the VW Group debut for this Borg Warner hardware, which does away with some of the complexity of earlier Haldex clutches and is designed to be lighter and faster to respond; drive at a cruise and the pump is switched off entirely, but the moment the ECU detects slip or a likely need for extra traction (when cornering or driving uphill, say) it primes the pump and applies an extraordinary 44 bars of pressure within 100 milliseconds to engage the mechanical clutch and send drive rearwards. The all-wheel drive systems adds around 70kg of extra weight and will be available on lesser A3s before too long.
For the first time, the S3’s Quattro system can now be entirely rear-wheel drive in extremis, and the electronic brain brakes individual wheels for a torque vectoring effect. Power around a slippery corner at speed, plant the throttle and you can feel the Audi tuck in to the corner, with an impressively neutral feeling and a high level of grip. Instead of having different control systems for the Quattro, dampers and brakes there is now a single unified digital brain making decisions for a smoother, quicker, more reliable response. On this evidence, it works well.
And it pisses me off they don't at least test the market with an RS3 hatch. Enthusiasts are much more hatch friendly. Its the mainstream people buying the base A3's that don't like hatchbacks.
Seems like they could sell more than a few S3/RS3 hatches to make it worthwhile here... I imagine they'd at least match Golf R numbers of 300-500 per month. And those are high margin compact cars...
I know I'd put my money where my mouth is and buy an RS3 hatch. Perfect upgrade for me.
Will be curious to see how it works. The only way I can see it working is having another clutch at the front diff to disconnect the front drive. Or, they somehow added a center type diff.
Also if it's 100% rear drive that is cool but they have used tricky wording before, even saying gen V Haldex will send 100% of available torque to the rear, which everyone thought meant 100% of power, but that's not true.
Only reason we're getting the RS6 here is because the profit margin is large enough that it makes sense.
Pretty sure my phone told me 'New Audi A3 debut....' but I gave 0 fecks because 'ipad stuck to the dash syndrome' is all I think of when hearing Audi A3.
I would aggressively move to acquire a manual hatch with this interior.
Audi will save me the trouble...forbidden fruit for North America etc... But this is a great move.
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