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      02-26-2020 06:03 PM #1
      Car shopping. I believe I have narrowed this down to a few general options, I do not have my eye on any specific cars, just make/models that are A) readily available and B) generally within my budget. These are ordered by preference:

      1) 2013-15 Accord Sport. Probably manual. I'm not totally ruling out a V6 trim Accord but they seem to be pricey and the 4-banger with 185 hp seems more than adequate for my needs.

      Pros: Love the exterior look. Reliability obviously. Big enough for longer road trips with the kids. And a local mechanic who's a Honda wizard.

      Cons: The dashboard design is a goddamned mess, at least visually speaking (I do not have enough experience to know what's up ergonomically). An SUV would probably be more desirable for said long trips.

      2) 3rd gen CRV. I drove one of these a few years ago and really liked the way it drove and handled. I do not like the 4th gen. My MIL has one and it drives like a school bus.

      Pros: I like them. More space for those trips. The aforementioned Honda guy. Prices are where I could probably afford one in a higher trim level (meaning, AWD)

      Cons: Most of these are going to have high mileage and the newest one I'd be able to find in this body style is 9 years old.

      3) leftover new 2019 Dodge Grand Caravan

      Pros: It's a van. It's cheap. It's not been subjected to somebody else's farts and boogers for several years.

      Cons: It's a van. It's a Dodge. It's a van. It's a goddamned Dodge.

      4) 7th gen Camry

      Pros: I was super impressed by the 2.5L in my wife's RAV4 (RIP), was silky-smooth and powerful/responsive for a 4-banger even after it hit 125K. It's a safe purchase.

      Cons: Ugly as ****, boring as ****, reeks of surrendered youth. My dad will be all like suburban proud of me for finally submitting to the inevitable

      Other possibilities that I've not totally ruled out yet: Outback (I like them but they're expensive and I don't know a good local Subaru guy), Forester (slightly less expensive than Outback but aforementioned lack of Subaru mechanic), Ford Fusion (nice, big and cheap but I'm terrified of Ford transmissions)
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    3. 02-26-2020 08:44 PM #2
      I know you probably don't want a thousand questions.......but here goes....
      How many kids?
      Do you actually enjoy driving?
      What is the budget?

      Now, I'm from the other side of the world, so forgive me on not knowing the budget of my options.
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      Also, why do American's seem to feel the need to have a "Subaru/Mazda/VW guy" to service their cars? Apart from the really unique jobs, they are there to fix a machine.....they arent THAT different
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      02-26-2020 08:56 PM #3
      At the moment, it's more about having somebody I trust that knows what to look for when he checks the car out for me.

      As for the questions...do I like driving? Well, I mean, I'm on this website so I do to some extent. But not as much as I used to. I've always had a fun beater or motorcycle for thrills but don't have one at the moment and it's not high priority. Right now I'm just looking for a good everyday car and if it's boring that's not the end of the world.

      Two kids, both boys. An 80-pound dog, on occasion. The oldest kid is getting old enough to sit in the front seat now so SUV is not an absolute must.

      The outer limits of my budget would be around $18K, I could go higher than that but I'd strongly prefer not to.
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      02-26-2020 09:02 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by VYLENT View Post
      Also, why do American's seem to feel the need to have a "Subaru/Mazda/VW guy" to service their cars? Apart from the really unique jobs, they are there to fix a machine.....they arent THAT different
      Even though I’m my own “guy” who works on everything, the answer to your question might lie in the fact that even though rates for a specialist might be a little higher in some cases, the hour savings can make a difference in some not so specialized cases. As my own non-specialist I can confirm that if I haven’t learned the tricks of the trade, the job takes me a lot longer than if I subbed it out.

      Take a Honda D17 head gasket job. Not uncommon given how often they fail. My wife (then-GF) had her general indy mechanic do the head gasket on her ‘02 Civic. Cost us $1100 and the car was done in a week. After the fact, I asked a friend of a friend, who was a service writer for a Honda dealer at the time, for a quote on a D17 head gasket job. He said $850, and that was at dealer rates. I was like...damn

      I considered subbing out the head gaskets on the Outback last year, but given the amount of mechanical work it needed I knew I needed to keep it in-house

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      02-26-2020 09:13 PM #5
      New minivan with warranty. Don't have to worry finding an independent guy at least for a few years.

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      02-26-2020 09:46 PM #6
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      Leasing my Dadmobiles has been FANTASTIC.

      If you have a fun car in the stable and your significant other has a vehicle, lease the dad mobile and don’t look back.

      As long as there are cheap leases to be had I will never buy an appliance car ever again. No maintenance, no major commitments, and no surprises.

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      02-26-2020 09:46 PM #7
      What about a leftover '19 Jetta? I wouldn't buy a used one, but the '19s still have the 6/72 bumper to bumper warranty and while not crazy fun, I bet it would probably be a lot more engaging than most CUVs, they are roomy and you can get a stick with the 1.4T. Looks like they are $16-17k if you're not averse to going a little out of town.
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    9. 02-26-2020 11:49 PM #8
      Build quality on these was excellent

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      02-27-2020 12:05 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by ImpeccableNEW View Post
      Build quality on these was excellent
      Yes, this is the CRV I like. Honda hit a damn home run with that one. Drove my sister's for a few weeks and it was phenomenal. Then my mother-in-law bought the next gen and it's a total pig. All creaks and sloppy steering, it's a mess. My sister's is 5-6 years older and still feels almost brand new.

    11. 02-27-2020 05:10 AM #10
      Is fuel economy a concern at all?

      Aren't the V6 Camry, Accord and older Rav4 models at least entertainingly quick?

      A turbo Forester or Legacy could also be fun.

      What about a Lexus RX? It'll be comfy if nothing else.

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      02-27-2020 06:26 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Roboturner913 View Post
      Yes, this is the CRV I like.
      At some point the A/C clutch field-coil will take a **** if it hasn't already. We have a warranty extension, but chances are that has expired due to time. Just be aware. The A/C clutch and coil can be replaced without discharging/evacuating the system, so it only takes a short amount of time with simple tools.
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      02-27-2020 08:28 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Roboturner913 View Post
      1) 2013-15 Accord Sport. Probably manual. I'm not totally ruling out a V6 trim Accord but they seem to be pricey and the 4-banger with 185 hp seems more than adequate for my needs.

      Pros: Love the exterior look. Reliability obviously. Big enough for longer road trips with the kids. And a local mechanic who's a Honda wizard.

      Cons: The dashboard design is a goddamned mess, at least visually speaking (I do not have enough experience to know what's up ergonomically). An SUV would probably be more desirable for said long trips.
      I had a '14 6-speed. While the interior is a bit strange looking, the ergonomics aren't bad. The huge trunk is very useful for family stuff and road trips. I'd probably prefer it to a CUV when it comes to that sort of thing. I fit two road bikes in mine, with the seats still up. Big back seat, great MPG (40+ on the highway). Build quality was a bit of a letdown, useless bluetooth phone performance, and the interior is pretty cheap, but it's likely a very good family car. It looks like you can find a decent one for $12-$14k, and at that price point, it makes some sense. I'd also consider a 6-speed EX. You get more options like a sunroof, better stereo, and better ride quality due to the smaller wheels. The Sport is basically a better-looking LX with the bonus of a barge-like turning radius. What about the hybrid trim of the Accord? I drove a '17? and it was a nice package. Plenty of power.

      What about a Mazda6?

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      02-27-2020 09:27 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by Roboturner913 View Post
      Car shopping. I believe I have narrowed this down to a few general options, I do not have my eye on any specific cars, just make/models that are A) readily available and B) generally within my budget. These are ordered by preference:

      1) 2013-15 Accord Sport. Probably manual. I'm not totally ruling out a V6 trim Accord but they seem to be pricey and the 4-banger with 185 hp seems more than adequate for my needs.

      Pros: Love the exterior look. Reliability obviously. Big enough for longer road trips with the kids. And a local mechanic who's a Honda wizard.

      Cons: The dashboard design is a goddamned mess, at least visually speaking (I do not have enough experience to know what's up ergonomically). An SUV would probably be more desirable for said long trips.



      3) leftover new 2019 Dodge Grand Caravan

      Pros: It's a van. It's cheap. It's not been subjected to somebody else's farts and boogers for several years.

      Cons: It's a van. It's a Dodge. It's a van. It's a goddamned Dodge.
      I would go with one of these two. The decision would depend on how many kids I had and what I wanted in a vehicle. If I just want something that is a complete throw away car to put miles on, not care much about the aesthetic condition, and have say 3+ kids, I'd go with the Caravan. If I had 1-2 kids and wanted something with a bit more fun, relatively speaking, I'd go with the Accord. However, I'd find a way to get the V6. Not just because of the outright speed, but everything else. The V6 is smooth, has a great sound, is an easy highway cruiser, and acceleration of any sort is far more effortless (all vs the 4 cyl).

      People who haven't owned faster cars never get this: having a car with power isn't just about redlining the car and stoplight drag races. There's also more power/torque across the power band making the whole process of acceleration and maintaining speed effortless and more relaxing. When comparing NA engines, you'll also have more grunt down low, by and large, when comparing a 6-cyl with a 4cyl. And that Honda V6 just feels so nice when operating. And of course, being a Honda, winding out the V6 when the situation arises is also fun.

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      02-27-2020 09:34 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by Roboturner913 View Post
      3) leftover new 2019 Dodge Grand Caravan

      Pros: It's a van. It's cheap. It's not been subjected to somebody else's farts and boogers for several years.

      Cons: It's a van. It's a Dodge. It's a van. It's a goddamned Dodge.
      I love vans and I'd go this route if it were not for that fact you're pointing out. It's a Dodge. That said, everyone I've known that actually owns them loves the things and have had zero issues with them.
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      02-27-2020 09:37 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Roboturner913 View Post
      2) 3rd gen CRV. I drove one of these a few years ago and really liked the way it drove and handled. I do not like the 4th gen. My MIL has one and it drives like a school bus.
      Both my mom and my sister have one of these. My sister hit an ice patch right before Christmas and slid into a tree, totaling her's so she ended up driving a few other cars including the subsequent two generation CR-Vs. She determined that she didn't want any of them and managed to find an exact replica of her first one with lower mileage to re-buy (2009, light blue, nav, leather, moonroof). They're pretty good cars.


      3) leftover new 2019 Dodge Grand Caravan

      Pros: It's a van. It's cheap. It's not been subjected to somebody else's farts and boogers for several years.

      Cons: It's a van. It's a Dodge. It's a van. It's a goddamned Dodge.
      These are also . You get so much car for your money with one. I don't get the anti-van sentiment that people have toward them, they drive pretty smooth, have plenty of power, and are super useful especially if you need to move a large piece of furniture or something like that.

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      02-27-2020 11:21 AM #16
      What's your commute like? Do MPGs count?

      Being forced from a 17 Accord Sport 6MT that I truly adored to a 13' Passat SEL Prem TDI, there's some pros and cons, but I find it a great, very roomy commuter. The price point and healthy warranty make the Passat attractive. And having some of the lux features that were lacking in the Accord are a much added bonus. So you may want to add a Passat to your list. Especially if room and MPGs are important.

      If you are set on a 9th gen Accord and have to have a 6MT, I suggest the EX over the Sport. Yes the Sport looks great, nice wheels, etc. BUT, the ride is harsh with the 19" wheels and being that it's a gussied up LX, there's some features that are missed (no sunroof, 4 speaker sucky audio, no backlit window switches, etc.) At least with a EX (the only other trim you can get a 6MT outside the Sport and LX) you get a sunroof, better audio, etc. And if you need a Sport, go with the 17 Sport SE so you get the heated / leather seating.
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      02-27-2020 11:36 AM #17
      I was "anti-van" until I owned one. I bought mine a few years ago and its basically a truck. Sheet goods, large stuff, road trips, awesome for people. A+ if you can get AWD in it and the largest motor. Likely faster then the CRV's too. Sure they have the stigma to them but take them to your local HD/lowes/menards load that btch up and solve some problems.

      That would be my vote for a dad-mobile. This is coming from a guy who owns a CX-5, Impreza and a Chrysler Town and Country.

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      02-27-2020 01:04 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by ImpeccableNEW View Post
      Build quality on these was excellent
      I picked one of these up with a rebuilt title for $5000. Had 70000 miles on it when I picked it up a year ago, and I put 12000 miles on it so far. It’s a 2009 EX with AWD and what looks like most options (moonroof, leather everything, heated power seats, nav, backup camera, cd changer, sat radio, etc).

      It was hit from behind, and in turn hit the car in front of it. None of the damage was structural, and none of the airbags deployed.

      The car is 4 different colors because it was repaired cheaply, but after taking it to be checked out and crawling all over and under it, the thing was mechanically excellent. I don’t need it to win a car show, I just need it to work.

      I did brake pads and rotors on all 4 corners for $141, and replaced the sway bar endlinks for $18 (and an afternoon of yelling at it before just cutting the old ones off), and got new headlights to replace the cloudy old ones for $178.

      It’s 2 oil changes in. In doesn’t burn any.

      The AC works great (I’m in South Florida), and it eats up miles with no complaints.

      It’s terribly slow, but you get used to it pretty quickly.

      I would do this or same vintage RAV4 all over again without a second thought.
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      02-27-2020 01:23 PM #19
      Because of the 80lb doggo, I have to vote for the CRV.

      I would have no hesitation choosing a used Honda/Toyota over a new Dodge.

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      02-27-2020 02:22 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Pnuu View Post
      Because of the 80lb doggo, I have to vote for the CRV.

      I would have no hesitation choosing a used Honda/Toyota over a new Dodge.
      There is exactly one thing that Chrysler knows how to do right, and it's their minivans. I've got lots of useless, anecdotal evidence for both of these cars that conclude they're about even in terms of reliability. My sister's original CR-V had piston slap that my mom's didn't and my mom's had it's oil rings installed upside down at the factory and has above average oil consumption as a result. They aren't perfect, either.

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      02-27-2020 02:34 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by r_fostoria View Post
      There is exactly one thing that Chrysler knows how to do right, and it's their minivans. I've got lots of useless, anecdotal evidence for both of these cars that conclude they're about even in terms of reliability. My sister's original CR-V had piston slap that my mom's didn't and my mom's had it's oil rings installed upside down at the factory and has above average oil consumption as a result. They aren't perfect, either.
      My neighbor just bought a low-mile '18 or '19 GT for under $20k OTD. It's red, so it's sporty. I'm guessing it was a rental, but so what. It's huge inside and is better than any SUV for things, people, and driving around town. They are a bit loud and cheap, but then again, they are cheap.

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      02-27-2020 03:10 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by r_fostoria View Post
      There is exactly one thing that Chrysler knows how to do right, and it's their minivans. I've got lots of useless, anecdotal evidence for both of these cars that conclude they're about even in terms of reliability. My sister's original CR-V had piston slap that my mom's didn't and my mom's had it's oil rings installed upside down at the factory and has above average oil consumption as a result. They aren't perfect, either.
      Anecdotally, all cars from all brands have their own potential issues.

      I'd much rather roll the dice with a used Honda than with a new Dodge. Historical data would be on my side for that gamble.

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      02-27-2020 03:31 PM #23
      I really think a Passat SEL with the 5 cylinder would be perfect for you.

      It's a solid reliable car, gets good gas mileage and has an incredibly large backseat. It's also in your budget. Hell, you could extend yourself a bit and get a new one or do what my sister did which was lease to get a more affordable monthly payment and then buy it out at the end.
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    25. 02-27-2020 03:38 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by Metallitubby View Post
      At some point the A/C clutch field-coil will take a **** if it hasn't already. We have a warranty extension, but chances are that has expired due to time. Just be aware. The A/C clutch and coil can be replaced without discharging/evacuating the system, so it only takes a short amount of time with simple tools.
      If this is all he has to worry about its great good ol K24 in these as far as i know

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      02-27-2020 03:52 PM #25
      I'm sticking with the car recommended in your Sentra thread. Fusion S or SE w/Sync package. Huge discounts to be had on those cars and I still find them excellent. IIRC the Focus is the one that had a ton of transmission problems and that's a completely different unit.
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