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      02-23-2020 06:32 PM #1
      I have a wild hair to sell my 2016 Silverado for something a lot older. I have it paid off and it's worth somewhere around $26,500 depending where and how I sell it.

      I still need a truck and was entertaining the idea of something 80's or possibly early 90's. Maybe an old Chevy Cheyenne, K5, etc. I'll need to tow around 5,000 lbs a decent number of times per year. I live out in farm country in a town of less than a 1,000, so I really don't care about speed or anything fancy. I'm a windows down and go the speed limit kind of guy. (The kind TCL would hate to be behind )

      Fuel economy would suck (obviously) and it'd be slower than a turtle, but is there anything to really worry about? Only thing that strikes me as a safety concern would be to update the brakes. I don't really care about the crash safety rating, I'll be daily driving my Camry. The thought of putting $5-$10K back in my pocket is intriguing. Figured I could sell and browse BaT for something else. Driving a classic would actually be enjoyable, too.

      Thoughts?

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      02-23-2020 06:56 PM #2
      Never owned and old truck and can't help, but this is interesting so I'm in for updates.

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      02-23-2020 07:14 PM #3
      I tow everything with my 1996 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins 12 valve. The thing is a beast and has bag loads of torque. Got it cheap from a senior gentleman who was retired and had it from new and could not drive it any more due to ill health. Couldn't turn down the offer. Oh, it's 4x4 and 5 speed manual with a king cab.

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      02-23-2020 08:53 PM #4
      We still have an '84 C30 3+3. It's super awesome.

      Not fast with a 350 and granny low 4 speed, but can tow stuff, that's for sure. It also seats 6!
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      02-23-2020 09:08 PM #5
      I think it’s a great idea! Instead of getting a new pickup I’ve been thinking about getting an old one and dropping in a 396 and something like a Richmond Gear five speed.

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      02-23-2020 09:16 PM #6
      steering is not as great in old trucks too. and they're generally really rattly. But they can usually tow just fine! Did something majorly change in your life outlook that you want to drop your paid off, reliable truck?
      This is only temporary, unless it works. - Red Green

    8. 02-23-2020 09:21 PM #7
      In my area, pickup trucks that age are all gone due to rust. In your area (evidently North Carolina), they are probably still on the road.

      Obviously be on the lookout for all the usual old-vehicle stuff: Rust, worn-out suspension and steering parts, stuff that doesn't work, door latches and locks, etc. The good thing is that vehicles like that have loads of aftermarket support and most normal replacement parts should be cheap.

      GM didn't have an extended-cab version of the 1973-1987 body style trucks. (There was a crew-cab on the heavy-duty models, but nothing on the regular models.) If you want that, it's Ford or Dodge/Ram.

      Towing with that won't be like towing with a newer truck. Back then, you slowed down going up hills, that's just how it was. Even the upgraded V8 models back then didn't make anything like the power of even the base model trucks nowadays. Upgrading the brakes is a good plan.

      Check towing ratings. That era was long before the towing and load capacity wars of today. It will be very dependent on axle ratios and other options. Minor digging found this thread with a chart in it ... note the GCWR includes the trailer weight and the weight of the truck itself. It is quite possible that your 5000 lb trailer is going to be at or beyond the tow ratings depending on engine and axle ratio. https://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/s...hp?tid/327640/

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      02-23-2020 09:42 PM #8
      Find a decent gasser 460 equipped 97 and older F-250.

      They're strong, can pull like crazy and are just plain super nice trucks. Yeah, they get crappy mileage, but they get the job done.

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      02-23-2020 09:45 PM #9
      92-97 F150.
      Straight 6 5 speed manual.
      or a similar vintage 460 F250.
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      02-23-2020 10:17 PM #10
      I drove a 76 International Scout for a year. Lots of fun. I drove it the end of high school to the beginning of college, top off, no ac, in Houston. Pretty much wherever I went I was wet when I got there, from the sweat or from the rain, but I was working construction so it didn't really matter.

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      02-23-2020 10:21 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by MGQ View Post
      steering is not as great in old trucks too. and they're generally really rattly. But they can usually tow just fine! Did something majorly change in your life outlook that you want to drop your paid off, reliable truck?
      I don't have to use my truck for work anymore. We finally got a new diesel Ram 3500. I daily a Camry and use my truck mainly for boat duty, beach cruising, fishing trips, etc. It used to be my daily driver, but I scored a cheap Camry from my Dad. I've always loved square body Chevys and never really thought about it till now. Something like a Blazer with the pop-off top and bench seat? Hell yeah. Still playing around with what I'd want. Definitely need a bit of a cool factor in there.
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      02-23-2020 10:31 PM #12
      I've taken on a similar task, towing ~5,000 lbs with an '02 Silverado 1500 that I bought for a grand at Thanksgiving.

      I briefly entertained the idea of towing with an '87 R10 with a 350/SM465 that was for sale locally last fall, but decided against it since I'd owned a similar truck years ago (an '80 C10 that I put a 5.3/4L60E) and figured I'd need to significantly beef up the chassis for it to handle that kind of load on a consistent basis.

      On paper the '02 1500 should be alright, even though it's got the 4.8. It has 3.73 gears and I put a used reman transmission with a Corvette servo (has better holding in 2nd and 4th). If time permits, I'll eventually put in a bigger external cooler.

      The oldest I would go is the 12-valve mentioned above. Funny that was mentioned because the guy I bought the Chevy from just let me know that he's got a low mileage 12-valve for sale - '97, extended cab long bed...my favorite minus a manual. That to me would be the perfect no-questions combo for what I want to do.

      But I have this Chevy that I'm into for $2,500 (will be $3k by the time I throw some tires at it) and it's quiet, smooth, comfortable, and can (theoretically) pull my trailer. The Cummins is $6k and has body rot - but I know a body guy, and he's trying to get me to get the Dodge because he's a Cummins fan as well.

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      02-23-2020 10:42 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by Stevo12 View Post
      I've taken on a similar task, towing ~5,000 lbs with an '02 Silverado 1500 that I bought for a grand at Thanksgiving.

      I briefly entertained the idea of towing with an '87 R10 with a 350/SM465 that was for sale locally last fall, but decided against it since I'd owned a similar truck years ago (an '80 C10 that I put a 5.3/4L60E) and figured I'd need to significantly beef up the chassis for it to handle that kind of load on a consistent basis.

      On paper the '02 1500 should be alright, even though it's got the 4.8. It has 3.73 gears and I put a used reman transmission with a Corvette servo (has better holding in 2nd and 4th). If time permits, I'll eventually put in a bigger external cooler.

      The oldest I would go is the 12-valve mentioned above. Funny that was mentioned because the guy I bought the Chevy from just let me know that he's got a low mileage 12-valve for sale - '97, extended cab long bed...my favorite minus a manual. That to me would be the perfect no-questions combo for what I want to do.

      But I have this Chevy that I'm into for $2,500 (will be $3k by the time I throw some tires at it) and it's quiet, smooth, comfortable, and can (theoretically) pull my trailer. The Cummins is $6k and has body rot - but I know a body guy, and he's trying to get me to get the Dodge because he's a Cummins fan as well.
      I don't think I'll need a 12v though. Those suckers can really tow! Definitely like them, finding one that's in decent shape is another story. I'm looking for something older, not a beater, almost classic, but not show worthy.

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      02-23-2020 10:49 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by El Ex View Post
      I don't think I'll need a 12v though. Those suckers can really tow! Definitely like them, finding one that's in decent shape is another story. I'm looking for something older, not a beater, almost classic, but not show worthy.
      In terms of classic trucks, I can really only speak from experience on the Squarebody Chevy. I’d get a C20 at minimum (or K20 if you’re looking for 4WD) and if you have the budget to go LS I’d do it again in a heartbeat.

      The 6.0/4L80 would be hard to beat in stock form, but a nice 5.3/4L60 (or 80) would make a nice cruiser. Fuel economy when towing with the 5.3 isn’t great (barely gets better than the 6.0) but the 6.0 doesn’t do well on fuel when it’s unloaded either whereas the 5.3 can be respectable.

      My only beef with the single cab Squarebodies is that the cab is a little more cramped than the newer trucks and the steering wheel positioning is different. Just less comfortable for longer hauls, but then again that’s how they made em. Would love to get my ‘80 back because it was so rust free being from Central TX

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      02-23-2020 10:52 PM #15
      4.8 is fine for towing, did that for years, but that's not exactly a fun classic.
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      02-23-2020 11:01 PM #16
      What does a 454 Suburban go for these days? C2500 7.4L V-8, 10k tow capacity

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      02-24-2020 08:37 AM #17
      I think you should totally do it.

      Do you need 4x4? Do you need 4 doors or could you swing a regular cab?

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      02-24-2020 09:25 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by tip View Post
      I think you should totally do it.

      Do you need 4x4? Do you need 4 doors or could you swing a regular cab?


      Definitely thinking it's going to happen. I can swing a single cab now and possibly 2WD.

      I wouldn't make any money, but something like this is really talking to me:
      https://www.smokymountaintraders.com...chevrolet-k-10
      Last edited by El Ex; 02-24-2020 at 09:27 AM.

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      02-24-2020 09:50 AM #19
      Yeah she's talking to me, too.



      Those are nice trucks though.

    21. 02-24-2020 11:06 AM #20
      Growing up my dad had a 81(?) F250 with a 351, we towed tens of thousands of miles with that thing. We were still towing with it going into the early 2000's, when he replaced it with a brick nose f350. Both of those would be fine choices, and cheap.

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      02-24-2020 12:05 PM #21
      I love the idea of an old truck, but for towing I wouldn't get a truck that didn't come equipped with basic safety features like airbags, traction control, and most importantly, ABS.
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      02-24-2020 12:24 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by chucchinchilla View Post
      I love the idea of an old truck, but for towing I wouldn't get a truck that didn't come equipped with basic safety features like airbags, traction control, and most importantly, ABS.
      I don't want to sit here and say I don't care about safety... but it's not super important to me. Like I said, I daily drive a Camry and only use the truck like once a week. If something happens it happens. I guess it's just my time. I live in a super small town and the truck really wouldn't leave it except to go to the beaches. Don't really care about ABS or airbags, if I'm going classic I guess I'm all in. Only thing I'm stuck on is if I want a stick or not. Boat ramps and a stick suck, period.

      I think I've made my mind up this is totally going to happen. I'll update when I pull the trigger. I need to start listing the 2016.

    24. 02-24-2020 02:43 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by El Ex View Post
      I'm looking for something older, not a beater, almost classic, but not show worthy.
      I'd suggest a 3/4-ton GMT400, then. It has an older look than the GMT800, but is still stout enough to safely do the job. There are still plenty of them out there in decent shape, too... and available for a price that will leave a lot of change in your wallet.
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      02-24-2020 03:40 PM #24
      Does your '16 have the backup camera and integrated controller? I'm a sissy now I can't go back from this.

      An 80s or 90s rig would be a whole bunch of fun but you are sacrificing comfort for style points
      If you have good trailer brakes and a decent controller it'll ride & stop better full. Empty you'll bounce off the headliner.

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      02-24-2020 04:14 PM #25
      I think I have the only 2016 made without a backup camera.

      Never had one and never needed one. Got a B&W back there so if I do hit anything, oh well. Haha.

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