Wow, so soon? That's just 15 years from the last full redesign! Hopefully it gets liposuction. The current one is very puffy.Originally Posted by linked article
I don't think these will step on the Supra because they have manuals as options, and presumably would still be priced about 10k+ cheaper. I admit the 4 cyl Supra will be very appealing, but I would really want a manual.
I'm surprised that the 4Runner production could take place in NA, but it does make sense from a financial perspective. I don't know whether this is a real concern or not, but could some of the 4runner loyalists be dismayed by it no longer built in Japan if that happens? I don't know.
Although secretly I'm kind of of glad that the new gen is still a couple of years away. This plus another year to work out the kinks of a (presumably) all-new generation puts me about the time when I'd be looking to replace my current one. Depending on the goodies the new one offers, I may be quite interested.
Improving the signal-to-noise ratio
Then again, if car buying is eventually going towards a sharing or short term leasing on a even larger scale than what we have today, it's likely than any loss in loyal buyers will easily be replaced with conquest buyers.
It means whatever Toyota wants it to mean. They can spec the cars to be as good or just "good enough" at any place or time.
My Japanese built Honda Fit isn't nearly as well built as my American made Accord was. It's not even close. Granted, it's a couple of slots up, which makes it logical that the materials in the Accord were better, but it also had fewer issues and little things keep happening to the Fit that never happened to the Accord, even though the Accord had 50,000 more miles on it and was a few years older when I got rid of it that the Fit does/is now. I've now broken the second sun visor clip on the driver's side and one on the passenger's. 2 wheel bearings have failed, I've had serious water intrusion, failed coil packs, belt tensioner issues and the radio display has now failed. I know there was something else, but it's currently escaping me. None of those things happened with the Accord and it held up pretty well to being my nephew's college car, where it (naturally) took a beating! My sister bought it new and it had a total of two issues. The detent for the cruise control switch wouldn't keep it "on", so I jammed a toothpick in there, cut it, painted the end black and hid it completely and the turn signal relay failed. Other than wear items such as brake pads and fluids, that's it. No other failures since it was new to the time it had 248,000 miles.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC those Fits were not originally designed for US consumption and they rushed the federalization of the old car (first came out in '01) when gas prices rose. They are good city cars but, IMO, share some traits with the Mirage where they don't hold up to US duty cycles and high highway speeds.
The Yaris is tough and popular in developing countries with bad roads. Additionally they had experience working out the teething issues with the Echo/Vitz (including in Canada which got a hatch version), most notably the suspension which was a bit scary in those. Mine has had zero issues aside from peeling clear coat on the roof, well, aside from the shifter linkage getting a little squeaky every years.
I'll go so far to say that the Yaris has better build quality than the previous-generation Camry. The interior of those is loose, large tolerance, and creaks and squeaks like a '90s/'00s American car.
Improving the signal-to-noise ratio
86 with the 2.4T seems almost too good to be true, it will be the hottest car on the market if it materializes. I have no idea what that's going to do to the Supra's desirability.
Given the SUV/crossover sales climate I'm not surprised at all to see the Venza come back, I'm sure it will be the choptop swoop roof "sporty" variant in the lineup, to diverge itself from the Highlander's family hauler aesthetic. Let's hope they do a lot better job with it than the original Venza.
I wonder if the smaller crossover will finally be the "Prius Crossover" they talked about a couple years back, but nothing has really materialized.
I can't imagine how the Land Cruiser could become a lower-priced 5-seat offroader since the 4Runner already does that, maybe they're planning it as a retro-spirited thing in the vein of the Defender and Bronco?
The real test would be to see if the same vehicle made here was of different quality than one made in Japan. Can't really compare build quality of completely different models.