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    1. Member Senior Member's Avatar
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      02-09-2020 12:32 PM #1
      Compact commuter SUV? We all know that Nissan CVT is junk, what about other popular commuters like the CRV/Civic, RAV4/Corolla, etc... If CVT was so unreliable why would Honda and Toyota use it!

      I'm asking because I might trade my car for a more practical compact SUV. I occasionally do shopping/home depot runs after work and find the small trunk of my car so annoying. My other option is to get home first and take the wife's SUV, but that's also annoying, and she wife refuses to trade cars. I'm looking at those two brands in particular (CRV-RAV4) because if I drive it for a little while and decide the "SUV thing" is not for me, I can always trade/sell it without getting hosed on the depreciation. So, back to the main question, would you buy a CVT car?

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      02-09-2020 12:44 PM #2
      Is There a CVT Vehicle That You Would Actually Buy?
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      02-09-2020 12:45 PM #3
      I've owned one (CR-Z) and it did the job. Fluid change for that Honda CVT was very DIY friendly.

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      02-09-2020 12:46 PM #4
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      02-09-2020 12:47 PM #5
      Plenty of older Nissan CVT vehicles on the road without issue. If you maintain them like you're supposed to, they're fine.

      I had a 2009 Altima new and drove it for three years without a single complaint.

      I also had a Prius but the CVT is a bit different from a non-hybrid unit. Anyway, still no issues with that.

      So my answer is yes.
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      02-09-2020 01:17 PM #6
      Subaru cvt is ok

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      02-09-2020 01:20 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Yuppie Scum View Post
      Subaru cvt is ok

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      02-09-2020 01:25 PM #8
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      02-09-2020 01:32 PM #9
      Wife has a Ford C-Max with a CVT. It's fine, I have no complaints about the powertrain. Really smooth acceleration and take offs.

      The Foresters I've driven have responsive CVTs, they felt fine too. Not sporty I guess but where I live smooth is better than sporty.

      Recent Hyundai Elantra has a CVT that mimics an 8-or whatever-speed when you romp on it, solid performing transmission. Had that car for a few days in California and i had no complaints about the transmission.
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      02-09-2020 01:42 PM #10
      Yeah, maybe. The CVT + 3.5 combo in the QX60 loaner that I've had forever is actually pretty nice to drive. It's a very smooth, responsive, and efficient drivetrain. I've driven several 4 cylinder CVTs and wasn't a fan. I think they need solid n/a low-end to work well.

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      02-09-2020 01:49 PM #11
      The Prius CVT is a little different but zero issues in 10 years and 168k miles. I would have no qualms with another Toyota hybrid with it.

      I suspect I’d not overly worry about a Honda or a Toyota CVT, though it’s not my preference.

      I hear a lot of negative feedback about Nissan and Subaru CVTs but only on car forums. In the real world, where I know a lot of people with those cars, I hear no complaints.

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      02-09-2020 01:52 PM #12
      Nope.

      Well, maybe a lawn tractor

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      02-09-2020 02:11 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by Samson View Post
      Yeah, maybe. The CVT + 3.5 combo in the QX60 loaner that I've had forever is actually pretty nice to drive. It's a very smooth, responsive, and efficient drivetrain. I've driven several 4 cylinder CVTs and wasn't a fan. I think they need solid n/a low-end to work well.
      Came here to say this. V6 based Nissans with the beefier CVT aren't bad. I'd entertain a WRX with a CVT as well. Could be fun I suppose.

      Generally, my rule of thumb with automatic vehicles: Engine must be of decent displacement and or power must be above 250hp/250tq for any of this automatic nonsense to be a viable, somewhat enjoyable option.

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      02-09-2020 02:23 PM #14
      Nope.

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      02-09-2020 02:28 PM #15
      I really like our Corolla's CVT here in flat, fast Texas -- the tall ratios mean high-speed cruising is really relaxed (like 2300 RPM at 85 MPH) but I would NOT own a CVT-equipped car if I lived somewhere hilly like Colorado.

      We took a trip out there last summer and while the car had plenty of power to handle any grade, it felt like I was killing the transmission. Starting out from a stop on slightly steep dirt roads (in town, like in Ouray) required almost full throttle and it was clear that there was some torque management or other type of powertrain preservation techniques being employed, because I floored it a few times out of frustration and it wouldn't even spin the tires on dirt. It will peel out if you floor it on pavement with the traction control disabled so I thought that was kind of weird.

      It did NOT want to back out of steeply inclined parking spaces with the nose of the car facing downward -- that did require full throttle. There is also not as much engine braking as I would like, though ours doesn't have fake gears, just D, S(port) and L(ow). Low brings the revs up to 4500 - 5000 going downhill but it still doesn't work that well.

      It almost never runs the cooling fans down here except when the A/C is on or when idling for 10+ minutes -- but when we were driving around slowly on dirt/gravel roads it had them at full speed a lot of the time so I guess the transmission was getting a little warm.

      I suspect that the new one that has physical 1st gear, then shifts over to the CVT at 25-30ish MPH would rectify a lot of my issues with it.
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      02-09-2020 04:39 PM #17
      Thanks for the all replies, I think Mazda could be another option.


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      02-09-2020 04:39 PM #18
      I’d do the Toyota Hybrid CVT if I had a situation where I needed fantastic fuel economy. When I had a long commute, I definitely thought about picking up a Prius C to drop my commuting costs.

      Nothing else though. We just got rid of a Nissan Rogue, and it really wouldn’t have been a bad vehicle if it weren’t for the transmission. It rode better, had nicer seats and got better gas mileage than an equivalent RAV4, but the transmission shuddering when it heated up freaked me out, so we ditched it before the CPO powertrain warranty expired.

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      02-09-2020 05:23 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by VarianceVQ View Post
      Plenty of older Nissan CVT vehicles on the road without issue. If you maintain them like you're supposed to, they're fine.
      I don't think it's this simple.

      In any case, if the Civic turbo or Maxima came in AWD, I could do the CVT in that. As is nothing with a CVT checks all my boxes.

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      02-09-2020 05:30 PM #20
      Yeah. The Altima has a good CVT, and we loved our 2014.

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      02-09-2020 05:37 PM #21
      For a pure commuter car, I'd no problem buying the poverty-spec Corolla hybrid with the CVT.

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      02-09-2020 05:38 PM #22
      Maybe a Honda or Toyota version, but not if I could avoid it. I have always planned to keep most cars I buy for 15 years, so if you plan to get a new car after 4-5 years, it might be fine.
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      02-09-2020 05:55 PM #23
      My Scion is a CVT, and it's surprisingly tolerable.
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      02-09-2020 06:05 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by fireside View Post
      Came here to say this. V6 based Nissans with the beefier CVT aren't bad. I'd entertain a WRX with a CVT as well. Could be fun I suppose.

      Generally, my rule of thumb with automatic vehicles: Engine must be of decent displacement and or power must be above 250hp/250tq for any of this automatic nonsense to be a viable, somewhat enjoyable option.
      Agreed. My old 2010 Maxima had an awesome powertrain mostly due to the awesome CVT

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      02-09-2020 06:08 PM #25
      I was going to say the new Insight but apparently it doesn't have a CVT. I would recommend a Rav4 Hybrid to others but I can't stand CVTs.

      So my answer is no.

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