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    1. Member dieselraver's Avatar
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      02-08-2020 08:09 PM #1
      Saw this post on Facebook in one of those automotive groups I belong to. Curious to know if this is something that could happen from just hitting a bump. I’d be worried about towing anything at this rate.




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      02-08-2020 08:17 PM #2
      Something seems off. 2100lbs is nothing and that frame is beyond bent.

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      02-08-2020 08:29 PM #3
      Something isn't adding up here.

    5. 02-08-2020 08:32 PM #4
      Did the bump he hit look anything like this:


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      02-08-2020 08:37 PM #5
      What the h3ll? ^^^ Yeah, as stated before, something seems way off here.
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      02-08-2020 08:42 PM #6
      I remember this old news. Turned out it was indeed operator error.
      https://www.coloradofans.com/threads...towing.409837/
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      02-08-2020 08:48 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by -DWM- View Post
      I remember this old news. Turned out it was indeed operator error.
      https://www.coloradofans.com/threads...towing.409837/
      Just read this thread and no where does it prove this was operator error. It is all just speculation.

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      02-08-2020 08:52 PM #8
      Ford denies warranty for Raptor owner!


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      02-08-2020 08:53 PM #9
      Yikes. No rust, so it must've been jumped.
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      02-08-2020 09:00 PM #10
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      Ford denies warranty for Raptor owner!

      Was hoping this would be posted

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      02-08-2020 09:08 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by EverthingIsTerrible View Post
      Just read this thread and no where does it prove this was operator error. It is all just speculation.
      Here: https://www.coloradofans.com/attachm..._o-jpg.346619/



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      02-08-2020 09:15 PM #12
      Apparently this can happen to trucks from even small jumps. With videos and pictures:
      https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/...lovers.504957/

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      02-08-2020 09:21 PM #13
      2900lbs in that trailer?, lol right

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      02-08-2020 10:30 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by spockcat View Post
      Apparently this can happen to trucks from even small jumps. With videos and pictures:
      https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/...lovers.504957/
      Whoa, thats an ugly mistake there too.
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      02-08-2020 11:17 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by MXTHOR3 View Post
      2900lbs in that trailer?, lol right
      Sure, a load of lead bricks in that trailer might be about that.
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      02-09-2020 12:06 AM #16
      OP--if you hit a 'simple' bump, no, odds of that happening are extremely minimal. But there's a pretty wide range of things that can happen between 'simple bump' and 'crash landing' and there's a bit of interpretation to be done there.

      At any rate, while I wouldn't rely on a warranty to still be valid with just +1" tires and +100lb over the tow rating, in this case that seems more like a legal out than a failure mode. If Chevy were to say, for example, "we suspect some variety of yee-haw action" it wouldn't be very conclusive, not to mention unprofessional.

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      02-09-2020 12:16 AM #17
      I'm not sure how jumping it would cause it to buckle that way, I would think it would buckle the other way, no?

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      02-09-2020 10:19 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by BFalk628 View Post
      I'm not sure how jumping it would cause it to buckle that way, I would think it would buckle the other way, no?

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      The frame is engineered to bend that way. With a hard enough landing, the axle will hit the frame with enough force to go right through it, and the frame bends "around" the axle. The weakest part is just in front of the front leaf spring mount, so that's where it bends. If the frame was perfectly rigid in this situation, the rear of the truck would bounce up hard enough to flip the truck end-over-end.
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      02-09-2020 11:34 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by dieselraver View Post
      Curious to know if this is something that could happen from just hitting a bump. I’d be worried about towing anything at this rate.
      Not at any sane speed on a road you know. Watch the videos on how this happens and you’ll see the “bump” is extremely violent where they bottom the rear suspension at a high rate of speed and the truck bends instead of doing a “donkey kick” and losing control. I’m sure the trailer just yanked the rear down even more compounding the damage.

      I think this is more akin to “don’t buy Subaru’s, they wouldn’t warranty my hooning” messages. Pay to play unfortunately and know the trail (dirt road?) before hustling it, even if it’s not the cool guy thing to do and you want to impress your buddies in their svt raptors.
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      02-09-2020 11:52 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by dieselraver View Post
      Curious to know if this is something that could happen from just hitting a bump.
      Nope.

      You only need 1 picture to know he was going too fast for the amount of equipment he had on the trail he was on.

      Light slow vehicles do great offroad. Everything else gets expensive.

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      02-09-2020 11:59 AM #21
      Suspension travel is more important than cool looking tires and wheel flares when driving on rough dirt roads at speed.
      Adding weight/trailer tongue weight to the rear did not help.
      We already had a thread about this here back then.
      Note the trailer axle is also bent... minor bump my ars.
      I love when owners do something obviously stupid then try and play the victim because the big bad company they bought it from won't fix the issue they caused.
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      02-09-2020 12:01 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by BFalk628 View Post
      I'm not sure how jumping it would cause it to buckle that way, I would think it would buckle the other way, no?

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      Nah, its physics. There is weight on the hitch (tongue weight) from the trailer. So basically when landing from a jump the rear axle will act like a fulcrum. Weight will be pushing the hitch down behind the rear axle, while the heavy engine up front keeps the front axle down. This puts all the force when landing just behind the rear axle, which leads to the transfer of energy to in front of the rear axle.


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      02-09-2020 12:14 PM #23
      the damage is consistent with trucks going too fast even without a trailer. The trailer may have exacerbated the damage, but trucks (Ford, Toyota, Chevy) will bend the same way in the same situation with no trailer.
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      02-09-2020 12:54 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by MXTHOR3 View Post
      2900lbs in that trailer?, lol right
      That trailer most likely weights as much as a dresser bike with an average rider on it.

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      02-09-2020 01:04 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by MXTHOR3 View Post
      2900lbs in that trailer?, lol right
      The trailer itself weighs 2,900lbs, not the cargo. I believe it. An average 5x8 trailer is what, 800-1,000 lbs? Figure heavy tires/wheels, beefy axle and springs, probably a solid steel floor vs wood, job boxes, etc.

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