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    1. Member 2000JettaGLXVR6's Avatar
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      12-16-2019 08:15 PM #51
      Jalopnik commenters are having a conniption over the price

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      12-16-2019 08:16 PM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by Pizza Cat!!!! View Post
      In everyday use, it's going to be the winner - do you like to carry luggage up to the ceiling of your interior on an everyday basis? I don't either.
      These are the same people that think think hatchbacks are more practical then sedans "because one time a year I can fit something big in the back with the seats down"...
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      12-16-2019 08:25 PM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by 2000JettaGLXVR6 View Post
      You will literally be able to pick one up
      I don't think so

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      12-16-2019 08:27 PM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by Hostile View Post
      These are the same people that think think hatchbacks are more practical then sedans "because one time a year I can fit something big in the back with the seats down"...
      This right here is why wagons are great. You get the actual area/footprint of a sedan cargo area, with the benefit of a hatch and more volume above. Best of both worlds. And a nice, long roof for good looks too.

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      12-16-2019 08:44 PM #55
      Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Russells View Post
      I don't think so
      Given current depreciation trends, I think so, very much so. Even more so since we'll be into a recession by then. Setting a notification for August 1, 2024 with this thread link.

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      12-16-2019 08:49 PM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by 2000JettaGLXVR6 View Post
      Given current depreciation trends, I think so, very much so. Even more so since we'll be into a recession by then. Setting a notification for August 1, 2024 with this thread link.
      You would literally be the strongest man in history if you did that.

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      12-16-2019 08:53 PM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by troyguitar View Post
      You would literally be the strongest man in history if you did that.
      A beef tycoon if you will.

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      12-16-2019 09:51 PM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by cseaman View Post
      Again, my initial post is not something I'd stand by now (sober, lolol) - the $70k number caught me by surprise, but Audi $70k MSRP =/= $70k in your garage. Of all people, I should know that.



      If you're going to run your mouth with made up quotations in caps lock, while not having the gall to actually quote the person you're whining about, "Sir, please grow a pair."
      Strange, I see nothing you’re speaking of. I kind of just think you’re being a weenie.
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      12-16-2019 11:24 PM #59
      Quote Originally Posted by Hostile View Post
      Let me know when I can get an A6 allroad as heavily discounted/incentivized as the average domestic pickup truck.
      You're not shopping at the right stores.

      But besides that, 20% off a $70,000 truck would be over $14,000. While those deals do happen, it's not the norm.

      Granted, the dealerships in my area are fairly low volume, but here's a King Ranch for $63,373. That's a cheaper vehicle than the limited, and has almost no discount.

      Here's one at our local dealership.

      https://www.ultimatefordinc.com/new/...archDepth=1:13

      And here's one at a huge volume lot -

      https://www.brandonford.com/vehicle-...fl-id-33547517

      People always talk about this 20% off stuff, it happens, but not every day.
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      12-17-2019 04:17 AM #60
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      People always talk about this 20% off stuff, it happens, but not every day.
      It happens all the time, you see monthly posts on deals.

      Nov. 2019 up to 12k off: http://fordauthority.com/2019/11/for...november-2019/

      Dec. 2019 up to 13k off: http://fordauthority.com/2019/12/for...december-2019/
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      12-17-2019 08:47 AM #61
      Blame 200 month mortgage style auto loans that make these “affordable”
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      12-17-2019 08:51 AM #62
      Quote Originally Posted by mach250 View Post
      Blame 200 month mortgage style auto loans that make these “affordable”
      200 months is 16 years and change. That would be the equivalent of someone taking out a sensible 3 year auto loan. Try harder at the maths.
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    14. 12-17-2019 09:08 AM #63
      I financed my used S4 like a lease, I have a lump sum at payment 48 to keep the other 47 payments low. At the same time, I have been saving that lump well ahead of when it's due.

      What's nice is that the 300/mo that I would have spent won't be a strain in times when it could be tough. i.e. when the A3 needed $7k in work, out of the blue lol.

      Anyway, I hope timing works out when these start coming off lease, because I'll be first in line.
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      12-17-2019 10:47 AM #64
      What is the legroom comparison to an A6 Avant vs a Q5? The cargo capacity is tough to quibble over because the two cars have roughly the same cu. ft, but the shape of that space is different for each vehicle. The Q5 has a shorter front to rear but taller cargo area, whereas the Avant has longer front to rear, but shorter height profile with a more aggressive slope angle of the hatch glass. It's the passenger area that the A6 Avant/Allroad is going to be obvious to the dozens of potential customers who cross shop the two.

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      12-17-2019 11:13 AM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by ND40oz View Post
      It happens all the time, you see monthly posts on deals.

      Nov. 2019 up to 12k off: http://fordauthority.com/2019/11/for...november-2019/

      Dec. 2019 up to 13k off: http://fordauthority.com/2019/12/for...december-2019/
      Those trucks mostly all have the 2.7T and none of them are Limited's or King Ranch.

      So no, I don't see 20% off their highest trimmed vehicles, which is specifically what I was talking about.
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      12-17-2019 11:17 AM #66
      Nearly the same price as a Q8 eh, they're really trying to discourage the sale of wagons aren't they...

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      12-17-2019 11:21 AM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      Those trucks mostly all have the 2.7T and none of them are Limited's or King Ranch.

      So no, I don't see 20% off their highest trimmed vehicles, which is specifically what I was talking about.
      2020 F-150 King Ranch MSRP: $70,815 Dealer Price: $57,982: https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...8738/overview/

      2019 F-150 Limited MSRP: $73,150 Dealer Price: $60,983: https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...9673/overview/

      And that's before you actually show any interest in them.
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      12-17-2019 11:33 AM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by RENOG View Post
      Nearly the same price as a Q8 eh, they're really trying to discourage the sale of wagons aren't they...
      No. The person that wants the allroad has nearly zero interest in a Q8. They are not bringing the allroad over in droves like they are with the SUVs. There is definitely a market for this car, and it will sell well for its production numbers.

      Also, pricing lines up exactly where it should. Has anyone looked at a comparably equipped A4 to A4 allroad? It follows just about the same amount of increase between the two.
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      12-17-2019 11:36 AM #69
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      No. The person that wants the allroad has nearly zero interest in a Q8. They are not bringing the allroad over in droves like they are with the SUVs. There is definitely a market for this car, and it will sell well for its production numbers.

      Also, pricing lines up exactly where it should. Has anyone looked at a comparably equipped A4 to A4 allroad? It follows just about the same amount of increase between the two.
      Plus, I already mentioned earlier that the starting price of the new one (with many, many more features) is nearly the same as what one cost back in 2005 when factoring inflation.


      But this is TCL, and people on the internet are generally idiots.
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      12-17-2019 11:41 AM #70
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      No. The person that wants the allroad has nearly zero interest in a Q8. They are not bringing the allroad over in droves like they are with the SUVs. There is definitely a market for this car, and it will sell well for its production numbers.

      Also, pricing lines up exactly where it should. Has anyone looked at a comparably equipped A4 to A4 allroad? It follows just about the same amount of increase between the two.
      Do you have an order guide yet? And is the 20th prestige level?

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      12-17-2019 11:43 AM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by Pizza Cat!!!! View Post
      Plus, I already mentioned earlier that the starting price of the new one (with many, many more features) is nearly the same as what one cost back in 2005 when factoring inflation.


      But this is TCL, and people on the internet are generally idiots.
      Bingo.

      My 325i was $34,600 in late 2003. That's the same as $48,000 today, but the new 3 series starts at $40,000.

      Vehicles are getting cheaper. People are just getting dumber.
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      12-17-2019 11:46 AM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by ice4life View Post
      Do you have an order guide yet? And is the 20th prestige level?
      Yes and yes.
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      12-17-2019 11:47 AM #73
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      Bingo.

      My 325i was $34,600 in late 2003. That's the same as $48,000 today, but the new 3 series starts at $40,000.

      Vehicles are getting cheaper. People are just getting dumber.
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      12-17-2019 11:48 AM #74
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      Bingo.

      My 325i was $34,600 in late 2003. That's the same as $48,000 today, but the new 3 series starts at $40,000.

      Vehicles are getting cheaper. People are just getting dumber.
      The 2003 3 series started at $27,800 which is $38,860 today (cheaper than $40k).

      You can't compare your car with options to a base future model and call it apples to apples.

      So nope, they're not getting cheaper.

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      12-17-2019 11:50 AM #75
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      Yes and yes.
      Which options are available for each trim?

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