In our country and others it's been well illustrated that nothing is written in stone, proclamations can become empty rhetoric pretty quick.
That and how lame is it that demand has to be generated by agovernmental ban? It's no done deal, the numbers don't add up and the populous will push back.
You have to appreciate the fact that even with subsidies and favorable regulations that EVs haven't taken hold. A ham fisted ban of competition shows the desperation. Trust, it will be a proper fight, the constituency has a voice and it will be heard. You're not going to make people by EVs in countries where they have the money and the political pull to say no.
The debate is whether or not the alternatives are better for the environment than ICE's. I suppose one can twist arguments in whatever way they wish, so I won't get into that.
And I think environmental concerns is only going to become more pressing issues in many countries and the people who grown up without ever experience EVs are a dying cohort, so I don't where this sudden outburst of opposition should come from.
And not to open a can of worms, but countries like scandanavian for example are homogeneous and socialist. The same can't be said for the US.
I also wonder why EVs are such a lightning rod when transportation is one of many sectors that generates emissions. For example here in the US electric generation is equal to transportation in emissions. I'd bet it would be cheaper, faster and easier to make our electricity renewable than to get everyone in the US to buy EVs.
I truly think EV advocates are more concerned with political control than actually addressing the environment. They just use the environment as moral cover. EVs are far from the lowest hanging fruit in the fight against climate change, even in the transportation sector
What people forget in all this is the scale of the auto market. Quick bans would cause massive disruptions and ZthecEV products available and the infrastructure isn't there.
All should appreciate that it may never be either. Hybrids seem a better bet.
As far as whether governments should be the drivers, look at our trade war, Brexit and the oil market today. There's no reason to believe that this will play out like people think. The only thing certain is the uncertainty of what will happen.
Hence Toyota intelligently keeping their powder dry. It's all talk and bluster while outside our doors CUV/SUVs and trucks rule. And that's what the constituency wants.
Last edited by Burnette; 12-01-2019 at 11:10 AM.
Car culture isn't dead in America, they're not going to force us into a Bolt, lol.
But does this fall into that category? Hard to say. If I was an unabashed environmentalist, I would totally be for a ban on ICE's for many reasons. But I am yet to be convinced myself, probably because I'm also a fan of ICE's, though I also am open to EV's myself if it was practical for me to own one.
However, the sentiment it seems worldwide is that people's desire to drive in the first place seems to be diminishing. That's why I think a ban on ICE's is probably inevitable. Clarkson would probably blame that on people like Thunberg, but it's been happening since the 90's now. The countries who have traditionally supported car manufacturing like Germany and Japan also have younger generations who are not as into cars and are more ecologically aware than before, and the traditional driver for car culture, motorsports, is in decline worldwide.
Unless if this trend is reversed, I don't see any reason to believe that the future of ICE's isn't dwindling.
(Edited for dumbass grammar)
Last edited by MrRoboto; 12-01-2019 at 11:21 AM.
The US consumer is still vehicle obsessed and won't be forced into a nascent product with a higher price, no support, more hassle, poor resale and products nobody wants. If pushed, they would push back and be aided by companies who are supplying what they are buying
Seriously, as I've stated, hydrogen fuel cell vehicles is just as bonkers as EVs but they have some pluses EVs don't. They too would be decades away from critical mass but those pluses at scale would pay off better environmentally than pure EVs would.