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      11-26-2019 02:00 PM #26
      Great set of mods. I do like how 996's drive, and I'm almost over the looks of them. Funny how sometimes it just takes some years behind you until you stop caring. I had the same issue with 964's for years and now they're one of my favorite generations.
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    3. 11-26-2019 02:13 PM #27
      DUDE...

      that front lip....

    4. 11-26-2019 03:07 PM #28
      Awesome build! I've been following your builds on the 996 and 997 Turbos. Great work.

      I'm happy to hear that the car gets a lot better after RWD conversion. Having driven a stock 996 Turbo, I was kind of thinking "why is this supposed to be awesome?" The car doesn't feel very special at all. I can see that once you tune out the understeer and the softness, it becomes a bada## machine.

      I too have a car that I won't get rid of because it's got too much character and is too fun.

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      11-26-2019 04:23 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by JustPassingBy View Post
      DUDE...

      that front lip....
      What about it?
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    6. 11-26-2019 05:06 PM #30
      do you get E85 in your neck of the woods?

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      11-26-2019 05:32 PM #31
      I suspect Porsche understood the shortcomings of the 996 Turbo and fixed them with the result being the 996 GT2. It's similar to what you have done but with less power. What do 996 GT2s go for? (Ib4 more than you can afford, Pal).
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      11-26-2019 05:50 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post


      via some kind of traction system re-flash, or is it that easy to drop the front diff?
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      Thanks for the write-up! Cheers to the next five and more.

      If I may ask, does converting to RWD involve taking out any of the front axles/switching to different knuckles?
      If you have some spare stub axles it just involves dropping the front diff/axles and go. If not then you have to pull the axles apart to use as stubs.



      Quote Originally Posted by t44tq View Post
      Awesome build! I've been following your builds on the 996 and 997 Turbos. Great work.

      I'm happy to hear that the car gets a lot better after RWD conversion. Having driven a stock 996 Turbo, I was kind of thinking "why is this supposed to be awesome?" The car doesn't feel very special at all. I can see that once you tune out the understeer and the softness, it becomes a bada## machine.

      I too have a car that I won't get rid of because it's got too much character and is too fun.

      Thanks, yeah it is crazy how a stock 911 Turbo is a very mild car.


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      do you get E85 in your neck of the woods?

      No E85, just good old 93.


      Quote Originally Posted by DonPatrizio View Post
      I suspect Porsche understood the shortcomings of the 996 Turbo and fixed them with the result being the 996 GT2. It's similar to what you have done but with less power. What do 996 GT2s go for? (Ib4 more than you can afford, Pal).
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      11-26-2019 08:09 PM #33
      Really great thread. Thanks for sharing! Great contrast with the 997 which manages to feel a lot different even though it’s more of a 996.3...

      Did you see that rwd converted 997TT that sold on BAT recently? I thought that was really interesting as well.
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      11-26-2019 09:44 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by TheDeckMan View Post


      Track rats 80-110k, clean ones 125-140k seems to be the going number.
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      11-26-2019 10:52 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post


      via some kind of traction system re-flash, or is it that easy to drop the front diff?
      all you need to do is remove the front drive shaft iirc. It's more work, albeit not a crazy amount more, to remove the front diff and half shafts. the whole mess weighs ~80 lbs I think.

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      11-27-2019 09:27 AM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by Toaster29 View Post
      Really great thread. Thanks for sharing! Great contrast with the 997 which manages to feel a lot different even though it’s more of a 996.3...

      Did you see that rwd converted 997TT that sold on BAT recently? I thought that was really interesting as well.

      Thank, yeah the 997 is a fun car that is much more refined. So I am pretty sure how they did the RWD on that BAT 997 is to just put a resistor in to have the resistance of the pump running. The pump just builds pressure on the ramp plate to load up the clutches like the MK1 TT.

      Something else to look into when having the 997tt apart for the coolant fittings and cams.
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      11-28-2019 05:47 AM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by zmt2 View Post
      all you need to do is remove the front drive shaft iirc. It's more work, albeit not a crazy amount more, to remove the front diff and half shafts. the whole mess weighs ~80 lbs I think.
      Do you need to reprogram any of the electronics for the conversion to work at all? Do you get fault codes for the missing front diff? This is amazing and very analogue :-)
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      11-28-2019 04:56 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by Lupo TDI View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by zmt2 View Post
      all you need to do is remove the front drive shaft iirc. It's more work, albeit not a crazy amount more, to remove the front diff and half shafts. the whole mess weighs ~80 lbs I think.
      Do you need to reprogram any of the electronics for the conversion to work at all? Do you get fault codes for the missing front diff? This is amazing and very analogue :-)

      Nope, it is entirely mechanical using a viscous coupling so no programming needed.
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      11-30-2019 12:45 AM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by TheDeckMan View Post
      Nope, it is entirely mechanical using a viscous coupling so no programming needed.
      Ah, the good old days.

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      12-03-2019 02:45 AM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by TheDeckMan View Post
      Nope, it is entirely mechanical using a viscous coupling so no programming needed.
      Amazing...! I wouldn't have thought it was possible.

      Quote Originally Posted by Meroving1an View Post
      Ah, the good old days.
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      12-03-2019 10:52 AM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by Meroving1an View Post
      Ah, the good old days.
      Without a doubt, one of the reasons I think the 996 will go down as a sought after but reasonably affordable 911 Turbo. Ease of working on them, numbers produced and availability of parts.
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