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      11-07-2019 04:33 PM #76
      Quote Originally Posted by MGQ View Post
      Well probably unhelpful advice:

      I had snow tires on my Mustang GT and it went fine. Altimax Arctics. Totally different car and it was stock height but I could push snow with the bumper and did that a few times with it. it was pretty unstoppable and actually pretty fun. the trac-loc axle helped a lot with that, as did the manual transmission for controlled launches.

      I say go for it but try to get smaller size if that's going to save you any money. I'm assuming standard 3-series wheels won't fit over the brakes?
      As someone with a just a 2011 2d 6spd TDI Golf with 168k miles who is looking for a winter beater....

      I have snow tires, it's fun in the snow, I have full coverage on this thing. I'm 20 so it costs me $180/month. I used to commute a lot, but not so much anymore.

      If I got a $1.5-2k Audi A4 B5/B6, I'd be saving a lot on insurance because I could put my Golf on storage insurance, drive the Audi safely and comfortably, while paying $60(?) a month for insurance. So between storage insurance and the A4 insurance, I'd be saving almost $100 a month on insurance, have a backup car at any point that's past most of its depreciation, and be far less worried about getting into (another) fender bender from MN drivers who always act like it's the first time they've driven on ice or snow.
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      11-07-2019 04:34 PM #77
      Quote Originally Posted by t44tq View Post
      That's just plain bad advice- summer tires don't work in sub 40F conditions. I've BTDT, as have many other people. Add moisture and you're talking outright dangerous to drive on summers.

      That's along the same lines of advice as "If you have AWD, you don't need winter tires." 4x0=0, 2x0=0. Net result is zero traction. AWD works for acceleration, does not help for cornering or braking, you need proper tires that work for the conditions.
      I'm sure summer tires are terrible, but all seasons are fine.
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      11-07-2019 04:37 PM #78
      Quote Originally Posted by t44tq View Post
      I don't agree with this at all- I had no problem with 4-6" of snow with my NA Miata on snows, I don't see much worse it would be with an M3, considering it's far heavier.
      M3 tires are far wider and the car makes much more power.

      Also, it was a Miata. I hear you can do anything in those, even haul lumber.

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      11-07-2019 04:42 PM #79
      Quote Originally Posted by Dandbest View Post
      It is, its just that most sub $2k beaters are, like, super beaters.
      I skipped over this the first time.

      If you shop around there are some good deals to be had for under $2,000. Take my 2004 325i for example. One owner, manual, 87,000 miles, well maintained - $1,500. It's been a fantastic car! I'd recommend this route, there's enough left in that $2,000 budget to buy some snow tires and still come in at $2,000.
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      11-07-2019 04:42 PM #80
      Quote Originally Posted by 87vr6 View Post
      Get 18" winter performance tires, which are not "snow tires". I had Pirelli Sottozero Serie II on my RS4 while I lived in Salt Lake City, and they're perfect. They'll get you going AND stop you in everything but ice, but they still handle close to summers (during the summer). In other words, you can still drive and push your M3 when the temps drop below 40.


      Read the reviews:

      https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...omCompare1=yes
      This, 100%. Don't buy snow tires. Where OP lives he won't benefit from them. He would benefit from either a decent all season or a winter performance tire, depending on how much actual snow he gets.

      I bought snow tires for my STI. In Philly. It makes it handle worse than a Corolla. Don't make my mistake.
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      11-07-2019 04:43 PM #81
      Quote Originally Posted by quietA3guy View Post
      Your problem won't be the snow.
      My dad has been driving a 2009 cts-v in Toronto winters for 10 years now. No problems with the snow. But when the slush that snow plows pile in front of driveways freezes into a solid block of ice then being the lowest car will do damage to your front spoiler. I don't know what an M3 is like but my dad has given up on repairing his cts-v spoiler.
      Yeah, to catch all the junk in the road, you don't need to be low, you just need to be the lowest. My old slammed GTI would snowplow all the time...we used to call it "GTI Plow Service." That said, if you're just plowing fresh snow it's typically fine, it's the ice and salt chunks that you need to watch out for. What I did with that car was keep our own driveway as clear as possible and then avoid places that didn't.

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      11-07-2019 04:51 PM #82
      Quote Originally Posted by johnny_p View Post
      This, 100%. Don't buy snow tires. Where OP lives he won't benefit from them. He would benefit from either a decent all season or a winter performance tire, depending on how much actual snow he gets.

      I bought snow tires for my STI. In Philly. It makes it handle worse than a Corolla. Don't make my mistake.
      Your STI has AWD though. Performance snows are probably fine for handling, but for getting stuck in parking spaces I think he will want studless.

      Another option (may) be performance snows and a set of chains for the rear wheels. I wouldn't do it unless BMW says its OK though; might hurt the diff or fenders.

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      11-07-2019 04:53 PM #83
      Quote Originally Posted by Dandbest View Post
      In retrospect, I shouldn't have sold that old CRV I had, it was perfect for crappy weather and not giving a crap where you park.
      Why don't you go back to one? I'm not sure if this is close to you but it looks like they can be had.

      https://longisland.craigslist.org/ct...015570662.html


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      11-07-2019 04:56 PM #84
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      I skipped over this the first time.

      If you shop around there are some good deals to be had for under $2,000. Take my 2004 325i for example. One owner, manual, 87,000 miles, well maintained - $1,500. It's been a fantastic car! I'd recommend this route, there's enough left in that $2,000 budget to buy some snow tires and still come in at $2,000.
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      11-07-2019 06:00 PM #85
      Quote Originally Posted by Dandbest View Post
      The one I was looking at was 18 inch. Nothing smaller will fit the brakes.



      between your car and the various SS's posted, I'm pretty convinced with the right tires I *should* be alright, or at least I'll have interesting stories to tell



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      11-07-2019 06:10 PM #86
      Quote Originally Posted by Colty_CM View Post

      If I got a $1.5-2k Audi A4 B5/B6, I'd be saving a lot on insurance because I could put my Golf on storage insurance, drive the Audi safely and comfortably, while paying $60(?) a month for insurance. So between storage insurance and the A4 insurance, I'd be saving almost $100 a month on insurance, have a backup car at any point that's past most of its depreciation
      Yeah a 20 year old $1500. Audi sounds like a solid plan. Please post up how much money you end up saving.

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      11-07-2019 08:16 PM #87
      Quote Originally Posted by johnny_p View Post
      This, 100%. Don't buy snow tires. Where OP lives he won't benefit from them. He would benefit from either a decent all season or a winter performance tire, depending on how much actual snow he gets.

      I bought snow tires for my STI. In Philly. It makes it handle worse than a Corolla. Don't make my mistake.
      Yeah, no. I live in the philly burbs and snow tires on my m3 were great when the temps dip. Your mistake is thinking that snow tires were designed to make the car feel the same as ultra hp summer tires in the winter. That's not the case, particularly if you increase the sidewall and narrow the tire width, which is more ideal in the winter. Cold weather braking, if nothing else, is much better than summers or all seasons in the same temps.

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      11-07-2019 09:04 PM #88
      Quote Originally Posted by G0to60 View Post
      Why don't you go back to one? I'm not sure if this is close to you but it looks like they can be had.

      https://longisland.craigslist.org/ct...015570662.html

      good suggestion! This thing is 20 min away from me. Texted the guy, will see it tomorrow. Just might be the ticket

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      11-07-2019 10:35 PM #89
      Quote Originally Posted by Dandbest View Post
      good suggestion! This thing is 20 min away from me. Texted the guy, will see it tomorrow. Just might be the ticket
      That's a solid deal there. Buy it.
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      11-08-2019 01:13 AM #90
      I think I've finally settled on the Nokian Hakka R3's to replace the Michelin PA4's on my rears. I could almost definitely get away with performance winters all year, but I'd rather have studless snows on all 4 corners for ****ty conditions in the mountains. I already have X-Ice 3's up front, and they're good for at least the rest of this season. I think my eventual plan will be to switch the 9 inch wheels off my summer set with the 10's from my winter set so I can run a square 245 setup, but I don't think that's gonna happen this year.

      Now I just need to play around with putting the autosocks on so that I know what I'm doing if I have to do it in ****ty conditions. I think I'll need a tool of some sort as there isn't enough clearance between the tire and fender to get around to the backside of the tire.

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      11-08-2019 01:19 AM #91
      Just get an awd suv beater. You will be unstoppable with any tire. Fly past everyone on the road. No worry.
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      11-08-2019 01:27 AM #92
      Quote Originally Posted by Dandbest View Post
      It is, its just that most sub $2k beaters are, like, super beaters.
      After further review, it’s time to buy an old cop car. Or an old Forester. Friends don’t let friends buy CR-Vs.
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      11-08-2019 01:50 AM #93
      Quote Originally Posted by patrikman View Post
      After further review, it’s time to buy an old cop car. Or an old Forester. Friends don’t let friends buy CR-Vs.
      You let Code Red buy a CR-V.
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      11-08-2019 01:50 AM #94
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      You let Code Red buy a CR-V.
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      11-08-2019 07:55 AM #95
      Got a text last night, the CRV was sold... Nothing else like it on craigslist, so the search continues.

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      11-08-2019 08:43 AM #96
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      I skipped over this the first time.

      If you shop around there are some good deals to be had for under $2,000. Take my 2004 325i for example. One owner, manual, 87,000 miles, well maintained - $1,500. It's been a fantastic car! I'd recommend this route, there's enough left in that $2,000 budget to buy some snow tires and still come in at $2,000.
      Your $1500 E46 was an exceptionally good deal, that's nowhere near the norm on CL. That's a 3-3.5K car in the rust belt/new england.


      Without buying snow tires, OP's best bet is something AWD (even the CRV's wimpy haldex system) or something with very narrow tires and FWD, like a LeSabre/Park avenue.
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      11-08-2019 08:59 AM #97
      Quote Originally Posted by Dandbest View Post
      Got a text last night, the CRV was sold... Nothing else like it on craigslist, so the search continues.
      Not sure where your search geographical or financial parameters are reaching but I searched CRV on NY Craigslist and found about a million CRVs for sale.

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      11-08-2019 09:04 AM #98
      Quote Originally Posted by UncleJB View Post
      Not sure where your search geographical or financial parameters are reaching but I searched CRV on NY Craigslist and found about a million CRVs for sale.
      I'd say it would have to cost less than a set of wheels and tires, without also needing a set of wheels and tires.
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      11-08-2019 10:08 AM #99
      Quote Originally Posted by UncleJB View Post
      Yeah a 20 year old $1500. Audi sounds like a solid plan. Please post up how much money you end up saving.
      I mean... I bought a 2.8 V6 Passat with 232k, put 8k on it and only had to do what repairs it needed when I first got it. Spent $500 on it and drove it until 242k, then sold it. My buddy just bought a 2.8 Audi A4 quattro for $500, that's at 252k miles, no issues with it so far (4k miles of ownership), what it needs is just little things to run better, but it hasn't broken down. (o2 sensors, replaced the ignition coil, VCDS'd the throttle body, ect). I would be driving a maximum of 1k miles a month, I'm not too concerned as long as it starts. I know the 1.8Ts and 2.8ls.
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      11-08-2019 11:21 AM #100
      Quote Originally Posted by Colty_CM View Post
      I mean... I bought a 2.8 V6 Passat with 232k, put 8k on it and only had to do what repairs it needed when I first got it. Spent $500 on it and drove it until 242k, then sold it. My buddy just bought a 2.8 Audi A4 quattro for $500, that's at 252k miles, no issues with it so far (4k miles of ownership), what it needs is just little things to run better, but it hasn't broken down. (o2 sensors, replaced the ignition coil, VCDS'd the throttle body, ect). I would be driving a maximum of 1k miles a month, I'm not too concerned as long as it starts. I know the 1.8Ts and 2.8ls.
      I've put 26,000 miles on my beater in the last year and my total cost of ownership, including purchase of car, plane ticket, and all maintenance items is still less than $4,000. That includes wheels and tires.

      It can be done if you work on it yourself.
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