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    1. Turtles walk slowly, but get angry fast! Smooremin's Avatar
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      01-09-2020 02:36 PM #176
      Dave, I love that jacket.

      That is all
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    3. 01-09-2020 03:42 PM #177
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Car_Guy View Post
      Car looks fantastic. Feels great inside. It’s going to surprise a lot of people.


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      01-09-2020 05:29 PM #178
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      Dave, I love that jacket.
      That is all
      I like it, too! My wife dresses me. Which is why it's Ralph Lauren, not Ralph Walmart.

      Quote Originally Posted by texghost View Post
      State of the art VaporWare package comes as standard
      The company has been saying that every component and nut and bolt has been sourced and is production ready, this is a production-ready car. According to the Company, suppliers have been established and will be disclosed over the next couple of months. Financing is probably a bigger question than product, in my opinion. The lease program is also well established and partners for that will eventually be disclosed.

      BTW, the Fisker Ocean received a few awards at CES this year (out of 4500 company exhibitors!)

      Time Magazine’s ‘BEST OF CES 2020’
      Mashable’s Top Picks of CES
      Sunset Publication’s Smarter award.
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      01-14-2020 02:15 PM #179
      Forbes did a nice little article on the Ocean after the CES show:

      The Optimist: Designer Henrik Fisker is Back with a Stylish Electric SUV

      "A decade ago, before Tesla released its game-changing Model S sedan that helped make Elon Musk a billionaire, famed car designer Henrik Fisker was poised to grab an early lead in the nascent electric vehicle market.

      He had deep industry ties, VC funding, a $528 million low-cost federal loan and a stunning plug-in hybrid concept. But it wasn’t to be. A string of setbacks, including faulty battery packs, technical glitches and a hurricane that trashed a shipment of Fisker Automotive’s $103,000 Karma luxury cars, sent the company into a tailspin and bankruptcy in 2013.

      Fast-forward and Fisker is dead set on a comeback in the 2020s. His new Los Angeles-based Fisker Inc. has a stylish, surprisingly affordable battery-powered crossover that is set to go into production late next year and aggressive sales plans that rely heavily on a lease-based business model. "

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      01-14-2020 02:24 PM #180
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Car_Guy View Post
      Forbes did a nice little article on the Ocean after the CES show:

      The Optimist: Designer Henrik Fisker is Back with a Stylish Electric SUV

      "A decade ago, before Tesla released its game-changing Model S sedan that helped make Elon Musk a billionaire, famed car designer Henrik Fisker was poised to grab an early lead in the nascent electric vehicle market.

      He had deep industry ties, VC funding, a $528 million low-cost federal loan and a stunning plug-in hybrid concept. But it wasn’t to be. A string of setbacks, including faulty battery packs, technical glitches and a hurricane that trashed a shipment of Fisker Automotive’s $103,000 Karma luxury cars, sent the company into a tailspin and bankruptcy in 2013.

      Fast-forward and Fisker is dead set on a comeback in the 2020s. His new Los Angeles-based Fisker Inc. has a stylish, surprisingly affordable battery-powered crossover that is set to go into production late next year and aggressive sales plans that rely heavily on a lease-based business model. "
      I'm looking forward to March.
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      01-14-2020 04:32 PM #181
      “Having done it once before, the big lesson learned is that it is extremely difficult to try to do everything yourself. The car industry has evolved over 100 years and you can't underestimate what it takes to not only make a car but also get it into production, distribute it and then keep the cash flow going and earning enough money to make the next models. All that is part of our business plan,” he says.

      “There is only one way, in my view, you can get this to work: You must have some really, really big partners. And we do have that, and not just on the investment side.”
      It's good they are clear headed about the challenges of doing this. I felt like Musk's cavalier attitude to mass production and wishful thinking that the alien dreadnought would somehow make everything easy was a huge contributor to the Model 3's painful launch.

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      01-18-2020 05:36 PM #182
      New data

      https://www.prnewswire.com/in/news-r...882913353.html

      • Dramatic Dimensions: At 4,640 millimeters (182.7 inches) in length, 1,930 millimeters (76 inches) in width and 1,615 millimeters (63.6 inches) in height, the all-electric luxury SUV offers a spacious environment for both front and rear passengers. With thoughtful design touches, new spaces are created for five adults to sit comfortably – even during the longest of rides.
      • Functional Utility: With 566 liters (20 cubic feet) of trunk space, the vehicle presents practicality and utility. The space increases to 708 liters (25 cubic feet) with the parcel shelf removed, expanding to 1,274 liters (45 cubic feet) with the rear seats folded. The Fisker Ocean will come with roof rails and towing hook options. Towing capacity will be released in 2021.
      • Stunning Wheels: The base model will feature stylishly designed 20-inch wheels, with 22-inch wheel options for an even larger presence on and off the road.
      • All-Terrain Driving and Power: The Fisker Ocean will be offered in a four-wheel drive configuration on all trims except for the base model – reflecting the vehicle's off-road capabilities. The standard four-wheel drive configuration will deliver an output of more than 225 kilowatts (more than 300 horsepower), with an ultra-high performance version targeting zero-to-60 mph in less than three seconds (total power output to be announced in 2021).
      • Charging and Range: The Fisker Ocean features a CCS Type 2 Combo plug – enabling the vehicle to be charged through any stations that leverage technology in line with the latest in international standards.
        • In North America, Fisker Ocean vehicles will be automatically recognized by Electrify America's charging stations – allowing for simple charging, automatic release and automatic payments.
          • Fisker will offer a free miles package with each vehicle, allowing for a certain amount of complimentary charging. Additional details on charging packages will be shared later in 2020.
        • The vehicle is equipped with a fully sourced, validated and tested state-of-the-art battery – with +80 kWh capacity and a range of up to 300 miles (depending on driving conditions).
        • More than 200 miles of range can be delivered from 30 minutes of charging for the Fisker Ocean (15% capacity to 80% capacity). Electrify America's 150 kW chargers can charge capable vehicles up to 20 miles per minute.



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      01-19-2020 11:08 AM #183
      “The standard four-wheel drive configuration will deliver an output of more than 225 kilowatts (more than 300 horsepower), with an ultra-high performance version targeting zero-to-60 mph in less than three seconds (total power output to be announced in 2021).”

      That’s definitely not ID.3 power lol.

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      02-13-2020 09:52 AM #185
      I know the pick-up market is huge, but that's due to $15K in cash being placed on the hoods of these $50K trucks.
      Will these EV pick-up start-ups have to follow the same business plan, to gain access to this market?

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      02-13-2020 10:58 AM #186
      Quote Originally Posted by whitejeep1989 View Post
      I know the pick-up market is huge, but that's due to $15K in cash being placed on the hoods of these $50K trucks.
      Will these EV pick-up start-ups have to follow the same business plan, to gain access to this market?
      The government will put $7500 on the hood of every EV pickup except GM and Tesla.

    13. 02-13-2020 11:42 AM #187
      Looking forward to the Alaska.

      As others have mentioned, I'm not sure how these EV pickups are going to be received, but I don't think anybody does. Let's try it and see what sticks.

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      02-13-2020 12:05 PM #188
      Quote Originally Posted by spockcat View Post
      The government will put $7500 on the hood of every EV pickup except GM and Tesla.
      You're right, there.
      So, the companies need to only add $7500 in incentives, to match the giveaways currently pushed by The Big 3.

      Rivian is also smart in picking a midwestern state for its factory. They will obviously sell product on the coasts, but it might make marketing EVs easier in the heartland, when the trucks are built in Indiana.

      Tesla is eyeing Texas, for a new gigafactory. That will likely help Tesla's image in the heart of truck country, as well.

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      02-13-2020 01:17 PM #189
      "In North America, Fisker Ocean vehicles will be automatically recognized by Electrify America's charging stations – allowing for simple charging, automatic release and automatic payments.
      Fisker will offer a free miles package with each vehicle, allowing for a certain amount of complimentary charging. Additional details on charging packages will be shared later in 2020."

      Plug and charge!

      They're definitely planning what they need to do to compete with Model Y.

    16. 02-13-2020 04:06 PM #190
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Car_Guy View Post
      What if you could lease it for like $400 a month? Service included. With 300 miles of range? Built on a Toyota or VW platform? Would you?
      No. I buy 3-4 year old used cars for half that payment.

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      02-13-2020 04:07 PM #191
      Quote Originally Posted by Sixtysomething View Post
      No. I buy 3-4 year old used cars for half that payment.
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      02-13-2020 05:02 PM #192
      Quote Originally Posted by Sixtysomething View Post
      No. I buy 3-4 year old used cars for half that payment.

      Then you have no say in how any new car is made, and you're part of the reason we don't get manuals, wagons, or whatever other enthusiast desire is.

      Oh, without new car buyers, you wouldn't have used cars to buy, either. So don't go acting like your smarter than everyone else.
      "Like a fine Detroit wine, this vehicle has aged to budgetary perfection"

    19. 02-13-2020 06:37 PM #193
      Quote Originally Posted by Chris_V View Post
      Then you have no say in how any new car is made, and you're part of the reason we don't get manuals, wagons, or whatever other enthusiast desire is.

      Oh, without new car buyers, you wouldn't have used cars to buy, either. So don't go acting like your smarter than everyone else.
      You're right about one thing: Without new car buyers, there would be no used cars to buy. But I let the first owners depreciate them for me and save thousands of dollars to boot.

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      02-14-2020 02:37 AM #194
      Quote Originally Posted by Sixtysomething View Post
      You're right about one thing: Without new car buyers, there would be no used cars to buy. But I let the first owners depreciate them for me and save thousands of dollars to boot.
      And since Fisker’s business model is a “subscription”, you’ll be able to subscribe to a 2 or 3 year old Ocean or Alaska after a few years when someone else turns theirs in. That’s the beauty of their model: they can control the product and can continue to recirculate their vehicles to the “next subscriber” at ever-decreasing prices as the vehicle ages. You can subscribe for a new one or, eventually, an older one. But the $3000 down payment is what will keep you from “flipping”.

    21. 02-14-2020 02:48 AM #195
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Car_Guy View Post
      I like it, too! My wife dresses me. Which is why it's Ralph Lauren, not Ralph Walmart.
      Gotta undo that bottom button on a jacket though

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