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      09-24-2019 04:53 PM #76
      Quote Originally Posted by antilock View Post
      Did the US Army originally commission Willys Jeep as a towing vehicle to begin with?
      Towing artillery at 10mph is a very different proposition from bombing down an interstate at 75. The former only has to worry about sufficient torque, engine reliability/cooling, and frame structure- stability and stopping not so important.

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      09-24-2019 04:55 PM #77
      Quote Originally Posted by Pnuu View Post
      I had briefly shopped for aluminum car haulers (until I saw the prices) but I never saw anything this small and light! Those are nice options if you have a compact racecar like an S2K, a midsize tow rig, and $5-7k to spend on a trailer.
      Yeah, they are pretty spendy, but $5-7k is what you would spend on even a basic tow rig, and then you have to store both the tow vehicle and the trailer. A light weight trailer means your CUV will suffice. I just wish the trailer market was more transparent on pricing and it was easier to shop used.

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      09-24-2019 05:00 PM #78
      Quote Originally Posted by antilock View Post
      Did the US Army originally commission Willys Jeep as a towing vehicle to begin with?
      Quote Originally Posted by chris86vw View Post
      No I don't believe a tow capacity was an original spec.

      Even if it was towing at 15mph in a convoy is not the same as towing 60mph on a highway.
      The Willys MB's trailer weighed 550lb and had a 500lb payload... so yes, the Willys was rated to pull 1050lb.


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      09-24-2019 05:04 PM #79
      Quote Originally Posted by Nealric View Post
      but $5-7k is what you would spend on even a basic tow rig
      Nah

      https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/c...985183815.html

      https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/c...985011066.html

      https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/c...984412899.html

      https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/c...984248929.html

      Any of those trucks would tow the car just fine with a regular trailer.

      If that's the only purpose the truck will serve, it doesn't have to be anything nice. It's not your daily driver.

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      For the record, I'm not recommending Chris buy these, as that's not anything that he's discussed. I'm simply stating that you don't need to spend $5,000-7,000 to get a truck that will tow a 2,000Lbs car.
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      09-24-2019 05:07 PM #80
      Quote Originally Posted by Pnuu View Post
      The Willys MB's trailer weighed 550lb and had a 500lb payload... so yes, the Willys was rated to pull 1050lb.

      yup, and now folks re-axle these and use them for overlanding or expedition trailers.
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      09-24-2019 05:11 PM #81
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      Nah

      https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/c...985183815.html

      https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/c...985011066.html

      https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/c...984412899.html

      https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/c...984248929.html

      Any of those trucks would tow the car just fine with a regular trailer.

      If that's the only purpose the truck will serve, it doesn't have to be anything nice. It's not your daily driver.

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      For the record, I'm not recommending Chris buy these, as that's not anything that he's discussed. I'm simply stating that you don't need to spend $5,000-7,000 to get a truck that will tow a 2,000Lbs car.
      Everyone has different standards, but I personally wouldn't be comfortable setting off cross country in any of those trucks- at least not without putting in enough work that they turn into $5k trucks pretty quick. Admittedly, I haven't personally inspected them- but I've been around enough cheap Craiglist vehicles to know they aren't likely to be in tip top shape. Around town is a different story, but that wouldn't be my use case.
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      09-24-2019 05:17 PM #82
      Quote Originally Posted by Nealric View Post
      Yeah, they are pretty spendy, but $5-7k is what you would spend on even a basic tow rig, and then you have to store both the tow vehicle and the trailer. A light weight trailer means your CUV will suffice. I just wish the trailer market was more transparent on pricing and it was easier to shop used.
      That's the key for me, storage on my tiny suburban lot.

      If I had a big rural lot, I'd probably already have an old pickup for chores anyways.
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      My wife wanted a SUV with a manual transmission. I suggested a Wrangler, she said no way, too masculine

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      09-24-2019 05:21 PM #83
      Quote Originally Posted by Pnuu View Post
      The Willys MB's trailer weighed 550lb and had a 500lb payload... so yes, the Willys was rated to pull 1050lb.
      Try towing motorcycles then, forget about S2000's.

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      09-24-2019 05:23 PM #84
      Quote Originally Posted by antilock View Post
      Try towing motorcycles then, forget about S2000's.
      You realize 2018 JLU =/= Willy's MB, correct?
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      My wife wanted a SUV with a manual transmission. I suggested a Wrangler, she said no way, too masculine

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      09-24-2019 05:25 PM #85
      Quote Originally Posted by Pnuu View Post
      The Willys MB's trailer weighed 550lb and had a 500lb payload... so yes, the Willys was rated to pull 1050lb.
      I'm that the trailer existed.. as noted by stack people convert them for overlanding and this is on my list of things to acquire.

      But as far as I am aware the horse came before the cart in this case as well and they did not commission it to tow a trailer specifically. They just ended up making a trailer.

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      09-24-2019 05:25 PM #86
      Quote Originally Posted by Nealric View Post
      Everyone has different standards, but I personally wouldn't be comfortable setting off cross country in any of those trucks- at least not without putting in enough work that they turn into $5k trucks pretty quick. Admittedly, I haven't personally inspected them- but I've been around enough cheap Craiglist vehicles to know they aren't likely to be in tip top shape. Around town is a different story, but that wouldn't be my use case.
      In the instance of this thread, to keep things relevant, he's talking about going a couple hundred miles. It would be fine for that, me thinks.
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      09-24-2019 05:29 PM #87
      You are thinking about this backwards.
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      09-24-2019 05:32 PM #88
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      It's definitely no Kia SUV.
      Obviously, since Kia doesn't make an SUV.

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    15. 09-24-2019 05:42 PM #89
      I towed with my xj once, I wouldn’t do that again. Jeep suspensions suck for towing, they are designed to be soft and flex. brakes suck with no trailer, add a trailer and it’s like trying to stop with no brakes, and they were just never intended for the purpose. I never towed with my srt8 but it would certainly do much better. I have a Cummins I normally use but have considered trying the Jeep out just to see.


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      09-24-2019 06:25 PM #91
      Quote Originally Posted by The_Real_Stack View Post
      You realize 2018 JLU =/= Willy's MB, correct?
      this is TCL, we only speak is sweeping generalizations.

      having said that, for anything more than hauling a kayak, youll need an f450 powerstroke, at minimum.

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      09-24-2019 06:42 PM #92
      Quote Originally Posted by SrtGreg View Post
      I towed with my xj once, I wouldn’t do that again. Jeep suspensions suck for towing, they are designed to be soft and flex. brakes suck with no trailer, add a trailer and it’s like trying to stop with no brakes, and they were just never intended for the purpose. I never towed with my srt8 but it would certainly do much better. I have a Cummins I normally use but have considered trying the Jeep out just to see.


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      The XJ and the JLU have very little in common.
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      My wife wanted a SUV with a manual transmission. I suggested a Wrangler, she said no way, too masculine

    19. 09-24-2019 10:16 PM #93
      Quote Originally Posted by The_Real_Stack View Post
      The XJ and the JLU have very little in common.
      Can disagree there, but regardless they were both never intended for towing anything past a landscaper trailer or small camper.




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      09-25-2019 10:01 AM #94
      Quote Originally Posted by SrtGreg View Post
      I towed with my xj once, I wouldn’t do that again. Jeep suspensions suck for towing, they are designed to be soft and flex. brakes suck with no trailer, add a trailer and it’s like trying to stop with no brakes, and they were just never intended for the purpose. I never towed with my srt8 but it would certainly do much better. I have a Cummins I normally use but have considered trying the Jeep out just to see.


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      I use my ZJ to tow Uhaul trailers full of debris to the dump all the time and it drives fine. I'm not sure how much weight I tow, but it's usually pretty loaded. I have OME suspension and usually have some newish brakes, so that helps a bit.

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      09-25-2019 10:05 AM #95
      Quote Originally Posted by antilock View Post
      Did the US Army originally commission Willys Jeep as a towing vehicle to begin with?
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      Try towing motorcycles then, forget about S2000's.
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      09-25-2019 11:51 AM #96
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      09-25-2019 12:00 PM #97
      You know Enterprise rents 3/4ton and 1 ton trucks for towing, right?

      That's what I'd do

      https://www.enterprisetrucks.com/tru...-business.html

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      09-25-2019 12:48 PM #98
      Quote Originally Posted by Volkl View Post
      You know Enterprise rents 3/4ton and 1 ton trucks for towing, right?

      That's what I'd do

      https://www.enterprisetrucks.com/tru...-business.html
      The goal wasn't just to move the S2000 (it drives perfectly fine on its own), the goal was to have S2000 + Wrangler in the same spot with 1 driver. I figured "hey, I've got a tow package, why make 2 750 mile round trips?"

      But it doesn't work, so two trips it is.


      The longer story is that I store my S2000 where I hunt every year, at my inlaws' place. I hunt out of the Jeep. So I figured, tow the S2000 with the Jeep the day before hunting season, I'm there with the Jeep and then just drive the Jeep home. But instead I'll go up a couple weeks ahead in the S2000, do some work around the property, and then catch a ride back with my FIL. I just try not to involve him because he's A) busy and B) annoying.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Volkl View Post
      My wife wanted a SUV with a manual transmission. I suggested a Wrangler, she said no way, too masculine

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      09-25-2019 12:51 PM #99
      Quote Originally Posted by The_Real_Stack View Post
      The goal wasn't just to move the S2000 (it drives perfectly fine on its own), the goal was to have S2000 + Wrangler in the same spot with 1 driver. I figured "hey, I've got a tow package, why make 2 750 mile round trips?"

      But it doesn't work, so two trips it is.
      Why don't you hire a driver? I'm sure you could get someone for about $15/hr at HD or Lowe's or Menards to drive one of the vehicles.
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      09-25-2019 12:52 PM #100
      Quote Originally Posted by The_Real_Stack View Post
      I just try not to involve him because he's A) busy and B) annoying.
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