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      09-10-2019 09:04 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
      Go buy a Wrangler S if you want a more spartan off-roader I guess. Or import an old Defender. Either way, nothing is really cheap in this space anymore.
      Compared to the G 550, it’s a good deal. The GX 460 is the bargain of the group at this point. If Toyota ever updates it, I guess we can expect a large price hike.
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      09-10-2019 09:14 AM #27
      Good thing the Jimny isn't sold here. It would hurt Defender sales.
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      09-10-2019 09:52 AM #28
      I freakin' love it. But I'm sure I won't be able to afford it (or the gas).

      Quote Originally Posted by alex_bgnet View Post
      Good thing the Jimny isn't sold here. It would hurt Defender sales.
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      09-10-2019 09:58 AM #30
      I've been playing around with the online configurator. I could easily see myself in a basic DEFENDER 110 P300 AWD AUTOMATIC with a few very carefully selected options. The price climbs very quickly when you try to turn a Defender into a Range Rover. I prefer mine more utilitarian.

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      09-10-2019 10:03 AM #31
      I like that it comes with handles so you can push it when it breaks down.

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      09-10-2019 10:04 AM #32
      I don't like the weird, fat square c-pillar thing, but it is nice otherwise.

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      09-10-2019 10:11 AM #33
      Wow, the base model actually comes with 18" steel wheels in the US. I assumed we'd be stuck with 20"+

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      09-10-2019 10:12 AM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      Isn't that the $49K version?

      I'm not familiar with original Defender pricing but Google says the Defender 90 cost $32,000 back in 1997 for soft top and $34,000 for hardtop. Sounds like the 2020 Defender is pretty much priced at exactly what it originally was, inflation adjusted.

      Also to compare: 1997 Wrangler SE for $13,000 or Wrangler Sahara for $19,000.
      When I say "original Defender" I'm thinking of the 1949 Military truck. I know it wasn't badged "Defender" until the 1980s.

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      09-10-2019 10:20 AM #35
      base model is 65k Cdn, ouch.

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      09-10-2019 10:22 AM #36
      I love the steelies.
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      09-10-2019 10:25 AM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
      Go buy a Wrangler S if you want a more spartan off-roader I guess. Or import an old Defender. Either way, nothing is really cheap in this space anymore.
      The base Wrangler still doesn't even come with A/C. Whoever wants a true utilitarian offroader should head to a Jeep dealer.

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      09-10-2019 10:28 AM #38
      I think overall it looks good, but it’s got an early 2000’s retro vibe. I’m actually really surprised at the starting price, maybe I’m just used to classic Defender prices.

      I think it will sell like hot cakes in the target demographics. A half priced G-Wagon?

      Anyway, what in holy hell happened with this C pillar on the 110? This just looks like someone was drunk with the way you see the rounded black reveal on the glass. And it doesn’t go all the way to the top or the bottom.

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      09-10-2019 10:37 AM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by 2000JettaGLXVR6 View Post
      Anyway, what in holy hell happened with this C pillar on the 110? This just looks like someone was drunk with the way you see the rounded black reveal on the glass. And it doesn’t go all the way to the top or the bottom.
      They make a $974 Exterior Side-mounted Gear Carrier to fix that problem.


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      09-10-2019 10:41 AM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by 2000JettaGLXVR6 View Post
      I think overall it looks good, but it’s got an early 2000’s retro vibe. I’m actually really surprised at the starting price, maybe I’m just used to classic Defender prices.

      I think it will sell like hot cakes in the target demographics. A half priced G-Wagon?
      It really does, doesn't it? Thank you for expressing what I was feeling. I agree it'll sell well and I like it a lot but it doesn't exactly look fresh.
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      09-10-2019 10:42 AM #41
      I’m delighted to see steel wheels, I love it.

      All of this outrage over pricing. It’s a Land Rover. There are $70k Wranglers all over the place, use your brains folks.
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      09-10-2019 10:45 AM #42
      1900+lb payload and 8200lb towing capacity, impressive.

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      09-10-2019 10:46 AM #43
      That center bench seat is bonkers.

      I’m also noticing a body color panel on the two door models in the middle of the glass. I really hope that is optional, why would you otherwise block the rear passengers view.

      I do like this type de-contenting from a luxury brand though.

      Steel wheels...


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      09-10-2019 10:49 AM #44
      Super cool. This will be a hit here in the U.S.

      I configured mine for $60k, the way I'd probably get one.

      https://buildyour.landrover.com/lr2/...245-3718366752

      I got the base model with the 296hp 4-cylinder engine and 18" white steel wheels.

      Options:
      Gondwana Stone exterior color ($710)
      Explorer Pack ($4,287) - includes mudflaps, black hood decal, spare wheel cover, wheel arch protection, raised air intake, roof rack, side-mounted gear carrier
      Off-road pack ($1,345) - includes all-terrain tires
      Black contrast roof ($870)
      Rough-cut walnut veneer ($600)
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      Cold climate pack ($700)
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      Total $60,286.55

      About $10k more than the way I'd spec a Wrangler UL Rubicon, but for that different you get some additional tech, refinement and the Land Rover badge.

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      09-10-2019 10:50 AM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by Quinn1.8t View Post
      1900+lb payload and 8200lb towing capacity, impressive.
      Damn... Although is that 8200 the usual funny LR spec where that is in low range with a top speed of 18mph?

      Selling the Cummins TJ to import an old defender 110 has been tempting (actually there is a guy local who has some for sale in the US already).

      I'm at 56k white with black roof on steelies with just off road pack and some light accessories cold weather/heated seats the stuff you can't easily add. That's not bad at all and despite not having the money for that at the moment a lot more tempting than the imported 110.

      https://build.landrover/2B183444

    22. 09-10-2019 10:50 AM #46
      I think they did a great job.

      I love pretty much everything about it, especially the fact they didn't put a Range Rover interior in it and it's still very utilitarian.

      I also think it's great that you can get full body panels past the C pillar instead of the requisite rear window.

      This thing is great. They will move off of lots with great speed.

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      09-10-2019 11:13 AM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by 2000JettaGLXVR6 View Post

      I’m also noticing a body color panel on the two door models in the middle of the glass. I really hope that is optional, why would you otherwise block the rear passengers view.
      Apparently that weird body panel is standard on the 110, but is indeed optional on the 90.

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      09-10-2019 11:19 AM #48
      Way overstyled IMO. Old Defenders were simply styled, the way Wranglers are now. This looks like it has a bunch of BS on it for the sake of having it.


      Also, is there going to be a topless model?
      Quote Originally Posted by Volkl View Post
      My wife wanted a SUV with a manual transmission. I suggested a Wrangler, she said no way, too masculine

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      09-10-2019 11:20 AM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by chris86vw View Post

      I'm at 56k white with black roof on steelies with just off road pack and some light accessories cold weather/heated seats the stuff you can't easily add. That's not bad at all and despite not having the money for that at the moment a lot more tempting than the imported 110.

      https://build.landrover/2B183444
      Similar to how I'd spec mine... not that I'll ever be in the market

      The "Off-road Pack" ($1350) is really the only one that's needed to increase capability since it includes the rear diff lock. The snorkel and some of the other add-ons can always be installed at a later date.

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      09-10-2019 11:29 AM #50
      Got mine to $80k.

      V6 is mandatory IMO.

      NEW LAND ROVER DEFENDER $68,350.00
      DEFENDER 110 HSEP400 AWD AUTOMATIC BASE MSRP FROM *
      CONFIGURED OPTIONS TOTAL
      $10,329.00
      Delivery Charge
      $1,025.00
      TOTAL MSRP * $79,704.00


      EXTERIOR $710.00
      Pangea Green $710.00
      Gloss finish $0.00
      20" Style 5095, 5 split-spoke, Gloss Dark Grey with contrast Diamond Turned finish $0.00
      Off-Road tires PACK
      20" full size spare wheel $0.00
      Body-colored roof $0.00
      Sliding panoramic roof $0.00
      Black roof rails $0.00
      Privacy glass $0.00
      Premium LED headlights with signature DRL $0.00
      INTERIOR
      INTERIOR $2,350.00
      5+2 seats (Includes Third Row) $0.00
      Acorn Windsor leather seats with Lunar interior $0.00
      14-way heated and cooled electric memory front seats with 4-way manual headrests $0.00
      60:40 load through rear seats with manual slide and recline and center armrest $100.00
      Manual third row seats $1,200.00
      Front center console refrigerator compartment PACK
      Light Oyster Morzine headlining $0.00
      Rough-cut Walnut veneer $600.00
      Cross car beam in Light Grey Powder Coat Brushed finish $0.00
      Leather steering wheel $0.00
      Heated steering wheel PACK
      Electrically adjustable steering column $0.00
      Leather gearshift $0.00
      Meridian™ Surround Sound System $450.00
      OPTIONS
      OPTIONS $7,269.00
      Off-Road Pack $1,345.00
      Towing Pack $1,630.00
      Comfort and Convenience Pack $595.00
      Cold Climate Pack $700.00
      Basic Interior Protection/Storage Pack $549.00
      Electronic Active Differential with Torque Vectoring by Braking PACK
      Three-zone Climate Control with Rear Cooling Assist $1,075.00
      Air Quality Sensor $75.00
      Cabin Air Ionisation $100.00
      Sirius XM™ satellite radio and HD radio $300.00
      Head-up Display $900.00
      Tow Hitch Receiver PACK
      ACCESSORIES
      ACCESSORIES $0.00
      Quote Originally Posted by Volkl View Post
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