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    1. Member HI SPEED's Avatar
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      08-14-2019 08:07 PM #1
      I am considering changing jobs. Huge existential crisis is that It will be a torturous 45 minutes to a hour of bumper to bumper traffic each way. Company is completely against telecommuting and has their hours strictly putting you at peak rush hour.

      After years of living a 15 minute bike ride from work, I am allergic to being stuck on traffic. Above any other feature, if I do take the job, I want a car that can handle most of the slowly lurching along.

      What are some entry level new cars, or used cars that have reliable starting and stopping systems? Don't need anything for driving at high speed, up to 25mph is fine. I'm not at the point where I'm willing to trust my life to a computer, but would risk a fender bender.

      Seems like the model 3, or Y would probably be my best bet. Open to anything in that range, but the cheaper the better.

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    3. I need new ones NeverEnoughCars's Avatar
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      08-14-2019 08:09 PM #2
      Nissan propilot?
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      08-14-2019 08:26 PM #3
      Impreza has EyeSight which does what you're asking for, and is relatively inexpensive.

    5. 08-14-2019 08:45 PM #4
      Move.
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      You are like the new Nightshift1983 of this forum dude. Just keep your fingers off the keyboard unless you have something valuable to say

    6. 08-14-2019 08:52 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by adam1991 View Post
      Move.
      From Hawai'i? Don't be an idiot

      Maybe... Find another job with a competitor?

    7. Member HI SPEED's Avatar
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      08-14-2019 10:28 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by NeverEnoughCars View Post
      Nissan propilot?
      Quote Originally Posted by Shmi View Post
      Impreza has EyeSight which does what you're asking for, and is relatively inexpensive.
      Have either of you tried it out before?

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      08-14-2019 10:38 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by HI SPEED View Post
      Have either of you tried it out before?
      Nope.
      Just thinking cheap and equipped.
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      08-14-2019 10:38 PM #8
      My wife has a 2019 CR-V with Honda Sensing. It has cruise control with low speed follow (down to a complete stop) and lane keep assist (above 45 mph). The lane keep assist is a game changer. It will keep you centered in the lane, as opposed to Subaru EyeSight which will only activate if you hit the edge of a lane. You have no idea how much energy is spent making tiny steering corrections until you use a system like this. I find it helps with mental fatigue a lot and as a result, you pay more attention to cars around you and what they are doing. Using the cruise control in traffic is similarly helpful.

      For a long commute, I would look into an Insight EX, which has the same features and gets 50+ MPG. New ones are under being discounted to under $22k now.

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      08-14-2019 10:47 PM #9
      You can get an A3/S3 with Audi Stop and Go if Prestige 2017+.
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      08-14-2019 10:50 PM #10
      MK7 Jetta SEL comes to mind. Test drove a 2019 a few months ago, system seemed pretty solid and the digital cockpit was nice and easy to read. And subjective looks aside it wont have a $15,000 Audi badge tax on it.

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      08-14-2019 11:05 PM #11
      I think Honda sensing is standard in all Hondas now. Go look at Fits.

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      08-14-2019 11:18 PM #12
      The new Corolla, Corolla hatch and RAV4 (maybe a few others) have v2.0 of Safety Sense which has full-speed radar cruise control which will brake to a stop and then re-accelerate back up to speed in traffic. (In the stick shift Corolla it works down to 25 MPH, though you can up/downshift without it deactivating).

      The 2.0 system also has Lane Tracing Assist which keeps the car centered in the lane. It's not quite ProPilot or Tesla level, but it is a lot more advanced than the v1.0 system that's on our car - ours just bounces you off the white line if you are about to run off the road and firmly shoves you back into the lane if you try to change lanes without signaling. The radar cruise in ours is pretty good but since it is the v1.0 version it only works down to 25 MPH and brakes late/hard for my taste in traffic (it's more for the interstate).


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      Improving the signal-to-noise ratio

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      08-14-2019 11:32 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by HI SPEED View Post
      I am considering changing jobs. Huge existential crisis is that It will be a torturous 45 minutes to a hour of bumper to bumper traffic each way. Company is completely against telecommuting and has their hours strictly putting you at peak rush hour.
      Sounds like a ****tier company...
      iain

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      08-14-2019 11:59 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by HI SPEED View Post
      Have either of you tried it out before?
      I utterly love the EyeSight in my Outback. The version in the Impreza/Crosstrek (and 2018+ Outbacks) is slightly different in that there is not an auto-hold/resume when the adaptive cruise brings you to a stop. I do get seat time in my fiancé’s Crosstrek, otherwise not any real difference compared to my Outback.

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      08-15-2019 12:12 AM #15
      I think all trims of the Civic have the full Honda Sensing suite, or at the very least the EX and up do and you'd really only want to be looking at upper trims if you want a comfortable cruiser. At least as of a year ago Car and Driver had said that Honda Sensing was one of the most capable radar cruise control, lane keep assist, and crash mitigation braking suites of any automaker. My parents have a CR-V and it's a very good system, the cruise in particular. The lane keep assist isn't quite as important in rush hour traffic because you're probably not going fast enough to have a meaningful amount of lane and gap for it to play a big role, but for rush hour rubber banding I personally love the radar cruise control.

      Great system and Honda's works all the way down to a stop and resume again just by tapping the gas and/or hitting resume on the wheel. In practice I found that it rarely came down to an absolute stop because it would creep at like 0.1 mph for a good number of seconds before getting close enough to come to a complete stop. That meant less intervention on the driver's part when it didn't have to come to a complete stop. Perhaps worth checking out to see if you even like the Civic. Or alternately if you're looking higher up, the Accord or CR-V. Honestly the CR-V costs the same or a few hundred less for an equal trim level Accord and still has a good amount of power with the turbo motor and it quite comfortable.

    17. 08-15-2019 12:19 AM #16
      I have pro pilot in my Infiniti, works well enough, not too jerky. It’s go crazy if you don’t keep pressure on the wheel though, tons of flashes and beeps. I’m sure it’s the same in a Nissan.

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      08-15-2019 01:30 AM #17
      Just spent a few days with a brand new Corolla LE up in Portland and it had the full radar cruise with start/stop traffic and lane assistance. I was pleasantly surprised how well it did in bumper-to-bumper traffic. At the very least, worth a test drive and it's a relatively inexpensive option.

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      08-15-2019 06:01 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by proximal View Post
      My wife has a 2019 CR-V with Honda Sensing. It has cruise control with low speed follow (down to a complete stop) and lane keep assist (above 45 mph). The lane keep assist is a game changer. It will keep you centered in the lane, as opposed to Subaru EyeSight which will only activate if you hit the edge of a lane. You have no idea how much energy is spent making tiny steering corrections until you use a system like this. I find it helps with mental fatigue a lot and as a result, you pay more attention to cars around you and what they are doing. Using the cruise control in traffic is similarly helpful.

      For a long commute, I would look into an Insight EX, which has the same features and gets 50+ MPG. New ones are under being discounted to under $22k now.
      Really? We have it in our 2019 Accord and I don’t like it. It feels like it’s fighting me, or at least nudging me. I don’t think it’s smooth. It can’t go hands free for more than a few seconds, so I don’t see the point. Either the car should drive or I should drive, we shouldn’t both be trying to drive. It still makes step inputs and isn’t as centered as I think it should be.
      I shut off the lane departure warning - it’s obnoxious. Don’t tell me what to do car!

      That said, we like the radar cruise. I haven’t tried it in surface street traffic but it’s great on the highway.

    20. 08-15-2019 06:16 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by boogetyboogety View Post
      From Hawai'i? Don't be an idiot
      ummmm......

      Move. As in, close to work.

      Jesus. This isn't rocket science.
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      You are like the new Nightshift1983 of this forum dude. Just keep your fingers off the keyboard unless you have something valuable to say

    21. 08-15-2019 06:22 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by adam1991 View Post
      ummmm......

      Move. As in, close to work.

      Jesus. This isn't rocket science.
      Rocket science? No... Just... Humor... Hence the laugh.

      Jesus... Somebody takes things way too seriously. Chill, man... Or I should say, "hang loose"

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      08-15-2019 06:26 AM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by adam1991 View Post

      Move. As in, close to work.
      Not an option for me, and my GF would then have to car commute into all the way across town in the other (even longer) direction.

      This would hopefully be a temporary thing, for a year or two. I loathe commuting, but everyone has a price.

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      08-15-2019 07:23 AM #22
      You could ride one of your electric motorcycles on the sidewalk?
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      08-15-2019 07:23 AM #23
      Sometimes the money is not worth it friend

      8 hours lost to sitting in traffic... ACC or not, sounds like hell to me

      Just my $0.02

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      08-15-2019 07:49 AM #24
      I'm sure there are better systems available but I like my Mazda's stop-and-go cruise control. It doesn't do steering but fairly smooth with accelerating/braking.

      I've heard good things about Subaru's and Toyota's systems.

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      08-15-2019 07:55 AM #25
      Out of curiosity, what are you people doing while this slow-speed cruise is doing its thing?

      Playing with your distraction device?
      Snoozing?
      Eating?
      Masturbating?
      Calculating the angle of sunshine hitting your dermis via the automobile glass through refraction?
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