I honestly think a manual would give this car a chance.*
0 direct competitors. Zero offer one in this space anymore.
I'd wager this will be quite a bit nicer (and more powerful) than the base Genesis manual, but less (and less $) than a $70k M3.
Besides, all those B8 S4 and F30 manual owners will need a replacement at some point.
*Assuming the design doesn't get neutered as well
Good luck with your acura/honda fantasy.
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I wouldn't buy one though, sedans are dead to me. CUV / SUV all the way for a daily driver.
Nissan Pathfinder LE
Dodge Challenger Scat Pack 6-speed
Gone but not forgotten: '99 Camaro SS 6MT | '00 Mustang GT 5MT | and a bunch of Maximas and other cars...
As far as refinement goes the TLX is in the same cabin noise ball park as any RWD sedan in its price range... maybe quieter
Performance wise it's off the mark by a hair, but a 100 MPH trap speed is hardly slow. Dynamically I'd say SH-AWD versions are more fun to drive than non-M F30s. Even with the 6 pot, at least driven sanely on the street.
So what exactly is the 3's value proposition? You can get a loaded TLX SH-AWD for not much more than the 3's base price. Or more scarily a loaded G70 3.3T for not much more. What does the 3er's price premium get you in 2019?
I'm only stating that the only options for a manual lux sedan are as follows: A $37k 6.6s 0-60 Genesis G70 or a $70k+ M3.
It's not unreasonable to assume this will be in the $45k - 55k range and likely have around 300-400hp. A manual (which Honda does quite well) would place it smack dab in between the only two other options for...a manual lux sedan.
God forbid I express a little optimism about a car and company that I've never owned.
Last edited by CostcoPizza; 08-14-2019 at 12:58 PM.