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      08-14-2019 10:38 AM #51
      Quote Originally Posted by JackStraw79 View Post
      Wow dude. Since turning in your Kia, it seems like you are on rampage of pro-Jap/anti-Kraut aggression
      I haven't turned it in yet. The Germans still make a lot of great cars. Eventually I hope to replace the TLX with one. But the 1st gen CLA is not one of them.

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      08-14-2019 10:48 AM #52
      I honestly think a manual would give this car a chance.*

      0 direct competitors. Zero offer one in this space anymore.

      I'd wager this will be quite a bit nicer (and more powerful) than the base Genesis manual, but less (and less $) than a $70k M3.

      Besides, all those B8 S4 and F30 manual owners will need a replacement at some point.

      *Assuming the design doesn't get neutered as well

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      08-14-2019 11:04 AM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by CTK View Post
      I haven't turned it in yet. The Germans still make a lot of great cars. Eventually I hope to replace the TLX with one. But the 1st gen CLA is not one of them.
      OK, but the second gen CLA was the one Rob mentioned in this thread, and the new A-Class family is by most accounts pretty great. I guess in your rampage you missed that detail.

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      08-14-2019 11:10 AM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by RicN View Post
      No desire to buy a low end fake rich Mercedes even it’s an AMG, but it’s just me. YMYV.


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      OK this is pretty funny coming from a guy that has a twelve year old Acura

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      08-14-2019 11:14 AM #55
      Quote Originally Posted by CostcoPizza View Post
      I honestly think a manual would give this car a chance.*

      0 direct competitors. Zero offer one in this space anymore.

      I'd wager this will be quite a bit nicer (and more powerful) than the base Genesis manual, but less (and less $) than a $70k M3.

      Besides, all those B8 S4 and F30 manual owners will need a replacement at some point.

      *Assuming the design doesn't get neutered as well
      Genesis and m3? Lol. No fwd car (which is all that honda makes except for the nsx) is going to offer the combination of refinement and performance as these rwd platforms. You must be a honda fanboy! This will end up being like every other acura sedan in the last 10 or so yrs. The last gen acura tl v6 awd with a manual seemed like a very compelling package. And yet no one bought these.

      Good luck with your acura/honda fantasy.

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    7. 08-14-2019 11:21 AM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by RicN View Post
      No desire to buy a low end fake rich Mercedes even it’s an AMG, but it’s just me. YMYV.


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      The new one, hence the 2020 in my post above, is by all accounts is an excellent car. It even has the GKN Twinster rear end similar to the Focus RS which has a superb AWD system.

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      08-14-2019 11:25 AM #57
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      08-14-2019 11:25 AM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by 6cylVWguy View Post
      Genesis and m3? Lol. No fwd car (which is all that honda makes except for the nsx) is going to offer the combination of refinement and performance as these rwd platforms. You must be a honda fanboy! This will end up being like every other acura sedan in the last 10 or so yrs. The last gen acura tl v6 awd with a manual seemed like a very compelling package. And yet no one bought these.

      Good luck with your acura/honda fantasy.
      *ahem*

      oh wait, you meant new

      although to be fair, the BMW that it replaced was also used so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      also also, honda and acura make tons of AWD cars. and while the system is based off of a FWD setup, SH-AWD is one of the more "RWD-y" feeling at least on power.

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      08-14-2019 11:26 AM #59
      Finally Acura, finally.

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      08-14-2019 11:29 AM #60
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      08-14-2019 11:54 AM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
      The new one, hence the 2020 in my post above, is by all accounts is an excellent car. It even has the GKN Twinster rear end similar to the Focus RS which has a superb AWD system.
      I would even take the current CLA250 over Acura ILX everyday, and twice on Sunday.

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      08-14-2019 11:54 AM #62
      Bravo Acura, finally a design that looks good after all these year.

      Depending on price and fuel economy, I might look into it.

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      08-14-2019 11:57 AM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by Egz View Post
      Bravo Acura, finally a design that looks good after all these year.

      Depending on price and fuel economy, I might look into it.
      Yep. I think this new Acura sedan will do wonders for the brand. Make it a AWD with turbo'd V6, I might even buy one.
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    15. 08-14-2019 12:06 PM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by Uber Wagon View Post
      Yep. I think this new Acura sedan will do wonders for the brand. Make it a AWD with turbo'd V6, I might even buy one.
      That's the rumored drivetrain so this could get really good . . .

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      08-14-2019 12:12 PM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
      That's the rumored drivetrain so this could get really good . . .
      add the manual, then watch TCL go

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      08-14-2019 12:22 PM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by JackStraw79 View Post
      OK, but the second gen CLA was the one Rob mentioned in this thread, and the new A-Class family is by most accounts pretty great. I guess in your rampage you missed that detail.

      https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...5-photos-info/
      The new CLA/A are better. But they will probably still be $20K more than an equivalent ILX

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      08-14-2019 12:25 PM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by CTK View Post
      The new CLA/A are better. But they will probably still be $20K more than an equivalent ILX
      You forgot to add $3K market adjustment.
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      08-14-2019 12:25 PM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Russells View Post
      OK this is pretty funny coming from a guy that has a twelve year old Acura
      Cuz I am poor and can’t afford an AMG, even a low end one. Don’t want to stretch my financial you know.


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      08-14-2019 12:30 PM #69
      And still nobody on TCL will buy it...

      Quote Originally Posted by Uber Wagon View Post
      add the manual, then watch TCL go


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      08-14-2019 12:48 PM #70
      Quote Originally Posted by 6cylVWguy View Post
      Genesis and m3? Lol. No fwd car (which is all that honda makes except for the nsx) is going to offer the combination of refinement and performance as these rwd platforms. You must be a honda fanboy! This will end up being like every other acura sedan in the last 10 or so yrs. The last gen acura tl v6 awd with a manual seemed like a very compelling package. And yet no one bought these.

      Good luck with your acura/honda fantasy.

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      You can't hide your BMW fanboyism by accusing others of it

      As far as refinement goes the TLX is in the same cabin noise ball park as any RWD sedan in its price range... maybe quieter

      Performance wise it's off the mark by a hair, but a 100 MPH trap speed is hardly slow. Dynamically I'd say SH-AWD versions are more fun to drive than non-M F30s. Even with the 6 pot, at least driven sanely on the street.

      So what exactly is the 3's value proposition? You can get a loaded TLX SH-AWD for not much more than the 3's base price. Or more scarily a loaded G70 3.3T for not much more. What does the 3er's price premium get you in 2019?

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      08-14-2019 12:49 PM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by RicN View Post
      Cuz I am poor and can’t afford an AMG, even a low end one. Don’t want to stretch my financial you know.


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      Yea that was a silly post; not sure how driving a 12 year old Acura = fake rich, almost seems like the opposite.

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      08-14-2019 12:52 PM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by KingUnderpants View Post
      And still nobody on TCL will buy it...
      You know TCL all too well.
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      08-14-2019 12:53 PM #73
      Quote Originally Posted by 6cylVWguy View Post
      Genesis and m3? Lol. No fwd car (which is all that honda makes except for the nsx) is going to offer the combination of refinement and performance as these rwd platforms. You must be a honda fanboy! This will end up being like every other acura sedan in the last 10 or so yrs. The last gen acura tl v6 awd with a manual seemed like a very compelling package. And yet no one bought these.

      Good luck with your acura/honda fantasy.

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      Your response is so daft I question if it's sarcasm.

      I'm only stating that the only options for a manual lux sedan are as follows: A $37k 6.6s 0-60 Genesis G70 or a $70k+ M3.

      That's it.

      It's not unreasonable to assume this will be in the $45k - 55k range and likely have around 300-400hp. A manual (which Honda does quite well) would place it smack dab in between the only two other options for...a manual lux sedan.

      God forbid I express a little optimism about a car and company that I've never owned.
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      08-14-2019 12:59 PM #74
      Quote Originally Posted by Uber Wagon View Post
      Yep. I think this new Acura sedan will do wonders for the brand. Make it a AWD with turbo'd V6, I might even buy one.
      Lincoln MKZ is like WTF homie?

      400 hp and torque vectoring AWD for under $50k and people are talking about a hypothetical Acura which Honda has no history of delivering.


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      08-14-2019 01:03 PM #75
      Quote Originally Posted by bzcat View Post
      Lincoln MKZ is like WTF homie?

      400 hp and torque vectoring AWD for under $50k and people are talking about a hypothetical Acura which Honda has no history of delivering.

      If I could lease one of those for $300 a month with $0 down, I totally WOOD.
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