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      08-14-2019 08:09 PM #177
      i think that like a miata or mini cooper, getting a GTI without a manual would be criminal...

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      08-14-2019 08:13 PM #178
      Quote Originally Posted by schwinn_varsity View Post
      i think the less powerful a car is, the more a manual is needed to keep the interest of a car lover...
      Fair statement.
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      08-14-2019 08:16 PM #179
      Quote Originally Posted by schwinn_varsity View Post
      i think the less powerful a car is, the more a manual is needed to keep the interest of a car lover...
      That is why Europe loves manuals. You need them on 1.0L motors.
      Not so much on on 5+L motors.
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      08-14-2019 08:24 PM #180
      Quote Originally Posted by NeverEnoughCars View Post
      That is why Europe loves manuals. You need them on 1.0L motors.
      Not so much on on 5+L motors.
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      08-14-2019 08:40 PM #182
      Quote Originally Posted by schwinn_varsity View Post
      i think the less powerful a car is, the more a manual is needed to keep the interest of a car lover...
      Agreed. There is probably a quarter mile time that is the line in the sand. I want to say anything faster than 13s.

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      08-14-2019 08:46 PM #183
      Quote Originally Posted by NeverEnoughCars View Post
      That is why Europe loves manuals. You need them on 1.0L motors.
      Not so much on on 5+L motors.
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      08-14-2019 08:56 PM #184
      Quote Originally Posted by CTK View Post
      Agreed. There is probably a quarter mile time that is the line in the sand. I want to say anything faster than 13s.
      I was talking about this with my friend over beers last night. My thoughts don't have to do much with straight line speed per se, but corner exit and gearing.

      With the M5, I was able to rotate the car, go WOT, and have it bang a gear change or two that didn't upset the car on corner exit. It would just hold the rotation on power and devour the road. That was a huge part of the appeal of that transmission for me.

      In a manual, if I had to take a hand off the wheel twice on corner exit, interrupt the power, possibly lose my rotation, and be very mindful of the gearchange so I don't accidentally clutch kick the car, that would have taken away from the experience.

      Dave's -12C fits in that category too.

      Sure, with a manual you could gear it tall enough to not have to do that, but I don't personally like super long gear spacing (looking at you Cayman GTS), but at least in the Cayman, there isn't fear of an accidental clutch kick. In a 617 hp M5, or a -12C, that's a very real concern.

      Hang on and blast out of a turn while effortlessly putting the power down feels fantastic, and I think a manual in the high horsepower stuff adds an element of fear factor that doesn't belong on the street.
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    11. 08-14-2019 08:56 PM #185
      Quote Originally Posted by schwinn_varsity View Post
      i think the less powerful a car is, the more a manual is needed to keep the interest of a car lover...

      This is what I'm always thinking. Which is why in my view small cars that have good suspensions and nice steering with low power and a stick are more fun and engaging than many more supposed "sporty" cars with bigger engines and supposed superior suspensions and huge tyres.

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      08-14-2019 09:13 PM #186
      Quote Originally Posted by AC1DD View Post
      This is what I'm always thinking. Which is why in my view small cars that have good suspensions and nice steering with low power and a stick are more fun and engaging than many more supposed "sporty" cars with bigger engines and supposed superior suspensions and huge tyres.
      I love my 2004 325i. It's a manual, it handles fantastic, the brakes are appropriate for the weight of the car, and it has decent tires on it. A blast to drive.

      However, I'd be lying through my teeth if I said it didn't need more power. Is it fun? Sure. But eventually you want more, which is why I'm kind of thinking about an E46 M3. It's more of everything I love about my car, but with 146 more horsepressures. As SoS and I were talking, by the time the E46 came out the chassis was too good for only 184HP (my 325). It's engaging as hell once you get moving, and if you can hold the speed it's still fun, but then comes an uphill section with tons of switchbacks and the car starts breathing really really hard.

      Can slow cars be fun with a manual? Certainly, and it's definitely better than a slow car with an automatic. But does that make fast cars with an automatic no fun? Absolutely not.
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      08-14-2019 09:28 PM #187
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      I love my 2004 325i. It's a manual, it handles fantastic, the brakes are appropriate for the weight of the car, and it has decent tires on it. A blast to drive.

      However, I'd be lying through my teeth if I said it didn't need more power. Is it fun? Sure. But eventually you want more, which is why I'm kind of thinking about an E46 M3. It's more of everything I love about my car, but with 146 more horsepressures. As SoS and I were talking, by the time the E46 came out the chassis was too good for only 184HP (my 325). It's engaging as hell once you get moving, and if you can hold the speed it's still fun, but then comes an uphill section with tons of switchbacks and the car starts breathing really really hard.

      Can slow cars be fun with a manual? Certainly, and it's definitely better than a slow car with an automatic. But does that make fast cars with an automatic no fun? Absolutely not.
      Don’t forget to tell him how horrible your dealership experience was buying that one.

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      08-14-2019 09:31 PM #188
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      Don’t forget to tell him how horrible your dealership experience was buying that one.

      You’ll NEVER believe what happened!!


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      It started snowing! In November!!!!!!!

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      08-14-2019 09:32 PM #189
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      It started snowing! In November!!!!!!!

      What is this nonsense?!
      Wrong.

      It started with a burrito.


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      08-14-2019 09:33 PM #190
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post

      Can slow cars be fun with a manual? Certainly, and it's definitely better than a slow car with an automatic. But does that make fast cars with an automatic no fun? Absolutely not.
      I had more fun in the SLS and -12C than I ever had in a Miata.
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      08-14-2019 09:37 PM #191
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      I had more fun in the SLS and -12C than I ever had in a Miata.
      Now I know you're lying.
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      08-15-2019 06:24 AM #192
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      08-15-2019 06:27 AM #193
      Quote Originally Posted by AC1DD View Post
      This is what I'm always thinking. Which is why in my view small cars that have good suspensions and nice steering with low power and a stick are more fun and engaging than many more supposed "sporty" cars with bigger engines and supposed superior suspensions and huge tyres.
      I don't always agree with AC but when I do.
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      08-15-2019 12:20 PM #194
      Quote Originally Posted by Sold Over Sticker View Post
      I had more fun in the SLS and -12C than I ever had in a Miata.
      SOS is cockerpunk's alter identity, confirmed.

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      08-15-2019 12:45 PM #195
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      Wrong.

      It started with a burrito.
      If we go back a few hours the problem really started at a brewery in Springfield, MO.

      Lets not start pointing fingers though.
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      08-15-2019 12:56 PM #196
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      1.0L?!!???!!!

      I've driven Yugo with 900 cc engine for 3 years in Europe in late 90s...they were only available in manual though. It was a dog with a manual, can't even imagine what kind of turd would slushbox make it.

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      08-15-2019 12:57 PM #197
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      SOS is cockerpunk's alter identity, confirmed.
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      08-15-2019 01:01 PM #198
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      If we go back a few hours the problem really started at a brewery in Springfield, MO.

      Lets not start trading fingers though.
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      08-15-2019 01:16 PM #199
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      Wrong.

      It started with a burrito.


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      08-15-2019 01:36 PM #200
      Quote Originally Posted by Pizza Cat!!!! View Post
      I thought it started with the tip?
      Just the tip?
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