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    1. 08-12-2019 05:17 PM #1
      Crossover *what*? Crossing over from what to what?

      Reminds me of R&T on the 1984 'Vette and its CrossFire fuel injection: "Look out, kid, that car's about to crossfire!"
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      08-12-2019 05:19 PM #2
      Quote Originally Posted by adam1991 View Post
      Crossing over from what to what?
      From he to she.
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      08-12-2019 05:20 PM #3
      Googling CUV brings this quote from Autoblog:

      A crossover or CUV, is a vehicle built on a car platform and combines features of a sport utility vehicle with features from a passenger vehicle.

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      08-12-2019 05:30 PM #4
      Between car and SUV. Back in the day, you could pick either a car on a unibody chassis with a low ride height or a truck with a body on frame chassis with a tall ride height. The CUV is just a unibody car that rides high like a truck.

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      08-12-2019 05:33 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by Shmi View Post
      Googling CUV brings this quote from Autoblog:
      huh, I honestly thought it was cute utility vehicle
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      08-12-2019 05:42 PM #6
      I think back in the day, all of the crossover unibodies were Compacts, and the body on frame SUVs were bigger, so a CUV was a 1G CRV/Rav4/etc, hence the "C" for compact. Ignore that a Cherokee is a unibody and pretty SUVish.

      Now, CUVs and SUVs are all sizes, and in my mind, the line between the two is pretty arbitrary (4Runner, Wrangler, Suburban/Tahoe are all SUVs, CUVs are Highlander/Pilot/Traverse and similar), and CUV just means crossover now.
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      08-12-2019 05:43 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by adam1991 View Post
      Crossover *what*? Crossing over from what to what?
      To 'cuteness'.

      When a Body-on-frame, gas -guzzling, off-roading macho SUV 'crosses over' to become more mall-friendly mom mobile, it becomes:

      Cute Utility Vehicle



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      08-12-2019 05:43 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by Shmi View Post
      Googling CUV brings this quote from Autoblog:

      A crossover or CUV, is a vehicle built on a car platform and combines features of a sport utility vehicle with features from a passenger vehicle.
      True, it's a car with more pounds and different clothing added to it. Which reminds me of how while cruising today I saw Honda's failure in the form of;

      Honda just went too mild on the Crosstour and made it look more like an ugly Accord than anything else.

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      08-12-2019 05:46 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by antilock View Post

      Honda just went too mild on the Crosstour and made it look more like an ugly Accord than anything else.
      Different platforms, but I'm nitpicking.
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      08-12-2019 05:52 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by antilock View Post
      True, it's a car with more pounds and different clothing added to it. Which reminds me of how while cruising today I saw Honda's failure in the form of;
      So I is and has a BMW Crosstour?

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      08-12-2019 06:06 PM #12
      SUV has always meant "Sports Utility Vehicle", so I interpret CUV mean "Compact Utility Vehicle". SUVs have mostly gone to car-based chassis, as have CUVs, but I wouldn't necessarily require it as there could theoretically be a compact BOF vehicle such as the new Jimny that could be marketed as a CUV.

      The phrase "Crossover" is long gone, and seemed to be mostly used for the tall wagons of the early to mid 2000s.

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      08-12-2019 06:13 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by Pnuu View Post
      SUV has always meant "Sports Utility Vehicle", so I interpret CUV mean "Compact Utility Vehicle".
      Exactly what I have always thought CUV meant.

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      08-12-2019 06:17 PM #14
      Any jacked up car without body-on-frame structure and solid axle(s).

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      08-12-2019 06:30 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by child_in_time View Post
      Any jacked up car without body-on-frame structure and solid axle(s).
      There are so many vehicles now that are unequivocally considered SUVs that are unibody and IFS/IRS.

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      08-12-2019 06:42 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Pnuu View Post
      There are so many vehicles now that are unequivocally considered SUVs that are unibody and IFS/IRS.
      What are they? Maybe Grand Cherokee? Most of what I'd call SUVs still have a separate frame, if not solid axles.
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      My wife wanted a SUV with a manual transmission. I suggested a Wrangler, she said no way, too masculine

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      08-12-2019 06:52 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by The_Real_Stack View Post
      What are they? Maybe Grand Cherokee? Most of what I'd call SUVs still have a separate frame, if not solid axles.
      Land Rover Dicovery, Range Rover, (monocoque) Ford Exploder spring immediately to mind.
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      08-12-2019 07:48 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by Pnuu View Post
      There are so many vehicles now that are unequivocally considered SUVs that are unibody and IFS/IRS.
      Those are all sissy suvs.

      Like blazer use to be suv...what the hell is it now?
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      08-12-2019 09:40 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by child_in_time View Post
      Those are all sissy suvs.

      Like blazer use to be suv...what the hell is it now?
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      08-12-2019 09:40 PM #20
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      I thought it stood for compact utility vehicle.
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      08-12-2019 10:24 PM #21
      Like most body styles, it evolved over time and doesn't necessarily have a single clear source or meaning. I believe that it's open to some degree of recollection and interpretation--here is mine:

      While it was definitely not the first crossover, the first car I remember being called a crossover was the OG Chrysler Pacifica in 2003. It was novel because it "crossed over" the wagon and SUV body styles, and offered people that would've gotten Grand Cherokees or Blazers something slightly more manageable and people that would have gotten wagons or minivans something more image friendly. It never really sold that well, but did generate a lot of buzz with "maybe I should get one?" AFAIK the term CUV was still not used yet.

      Meanwhile, SUVs like the X5 or QX4 were being "downsized" to get better fuel economy (X3 or FX35) and it popularized the category, but since they were based on car chassis, the term crossover became used to differentiate. Since the branding tied in with the larger family siblings, 'Crossover' was changed to 'CUV'. (yes, BMW marketing weirdly called them SAVs, but nobody else did). Ironically, even though the CR-V arguably started the category, the 'C' stood for Comfortable and not crossover, with the later being retroactively applied.

      Circa 2010, these things became so astounding popular that the term branched out even further, and cars that were traditionally known as SUVs but had unibodies started to be called crossovers by some too. Think Touareg, Cherokee, etc.

      Today, some say the differentiator is body on frame vs unibody. Others say it's vehicles with a chassis shared with a sedan vs a dedicated SUV chassis. I'm of the later. And to make it more confusing, I think ars like the A4 Allroad or Golf AllTrack are actually more true to the original crossover formula, but today aren't unilaterally considered crossovers.
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      08-12-2019 10:43 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by The_Real_Stack View Post
      What are they? Maybe Grand Cherokee? Most of what I'd call SUVs still have a separate frame, if not solid axles.
      The Grand Cherokee is weird because its always had a unibody, but had at least 1 solid axle for a good 3 generations.

      You can throw the XJ in there too.
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      08-12-2019 10:49 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by adam1991 View Post
      Crossover *what*? Crossing over from what to what?

      Reminds me of R&T on the 1984 'Vette and its CrossFire fuel injection: "Look out, kid, that car's about to crossfire!"
      Did you get hammered and decide, "I'm going to start some crap threads on TCL!"
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      Quote Originally Posted by Crispyfritter View Post
      Did you get hammered and decide, "I'm going to start some crap threads on TCL!"
      Opossumlodge is not here to post any so why not?
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      Quote Originally Posted by NeverEnoughCars View Post
      Opossumlodge is not here to post any so why not?
      Eh, no content is better than crap content.

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