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      07-11-2019 06:51 PM #1
      I'm looking to replace my Crown Vic by the end of August. Need something spacious , want AWD, so naturally looking at Subaru Wagons. The only problem is I've already owned 3 and want something different. I've noticed many of these Benzes for sale in the sub 3k range, with 4matic. I'm a decent mechanic, and have a large collection of tools, but I'd prefer not to use them constantly on a daily. So how good/bad are they?

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      07-11-2019 06:56 PM #2
      I’d stay away from these, unless turbodiesel.

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      07-11-2019 07:01 PM #3
      If its a wagon, do it
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      07-11-2019 07:37 PM #4
      My parents had one for a while, 2wd. Never had any major issues with it, just valve cover gaskets and motor mounts replaced. Oil changes are kinda pricy because it takes 8.5 qts, so if you do you own I’d get a large drain pan.


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      07-11-2019 08:34 PM #5
      You should change the title to "W210 E320" to clarify, since there are the W124 and W211 E320 as well. All 4MATIC W210 E320's have the V6 and 5-speed automatic transmission, which seem to be reliable, but the W210 has rust and electrical issues.

      1996 and 1997 W210 E320's (which never came with 4MATIC, IIRC) had the facelifted W124's I6.

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      07-11-2019 08:42 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by beefjerky View Post
      I'm looking to replace my Crown Vic by the end of August. Need something spacious , want AWD, so naturally looking at Subaru Wagons. The only problem is I've already owned 3 and want something different. I've noticed many of these Benzes for sale in the sub 3k range, with 4matic. I'm a decent mechanic, and have a large collection of tools, but I'd prefer not to use them constantly on a daily. So how good/bad are they?
      Is your large collection of tools more geared towards fixing Subarus or Benzes?


      Not that they need anything out of the ordinary, but they tend to use E-torx and triple squares liberally. With a Subaru you need only own 10, 12, and 14 mm varieties (well, and 19mm for the lugs)

      The W210 you posted, I’d generally stay away from. They’re from the doldrums of Mercedes quality (they hit their low point around 2001-02) and they rust like crazy around here - virtually unheard of in a Benz until these came along. Oh and they’re getting on 20 years old.

      A cheap AWD E46 3-series isn’t much better but that would be my pick.
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      07-11-2019 08:46 PM #7
      Watch those upper spring perches at the front. They tend to rust at the welds and separate from the car. Those cars have inboard springs at the front.

      IMO they're not like the previous generation W124 cars. Not as durable, not as pretty, more complex, more prone to rust.


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      07-11-2019 08:48 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by Stevo12 View Post

      Not that they need anything out of the ordinary, but they tend to use E-torx and triple squares liberally. With a Subaru you need only own 10, 12, and 14 mm varieties (well, and 19mm for the lugs)

      A cheap AWD E46 3-series isn’t much better but that would be my pick.
      I have a project E46 so I have the torx and external-torx bits and sockets. And since I have an E46 already, I'd like to get something else as a daily for vaiety's sake.

    10. 07-11-2019 11:05 PM #9
      Depends on where you are I guess but my parents have had two w210’s for years, one an E330 4matic wagon. Great car, no rust issues in CA, very reliable, would highly recommend.

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      07-11-2019 11:12 PM #10
      Here is your rabbit hole, good luck.

      https://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210-e-class/

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