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    1. Geriatric Member BRealistic's Avatar
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      07-08-2019 09:06 PM #1
      I had this strange moment in traffic today... surrounded by FOUR MK4 Golfs/Jettas.
      At first I thought "Oh noes, vwvortex MK4 lovers have finally found me. They are going to force me to grow a rocking beard, get trendy tattoos, and wear skinny jeans!"
      But serious.. four.
      I noticed a few more too.
      Two were TDIs though.. which is probably what many of them are.
      I did not look to see if any had CELs.

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      07-08-2019 09:12 PM #2
      Since I bought one, I've noticed this as well. Jettas, Golfs, and New Beetles are still a very common sight around here. I really like mine, so I'm not totally surprised. They're small, have simple engines that were pretty old tech at the time so all the bugs were long worked out, and they were pretty high-end compared to other economy cars at the time, and the styling looked pretty good during this era, too. They're likable cars. I really don't feel the same about the next generation 2.5 era cars.


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      07-08-2019 09:12 PM #3
      Weird. I had the same thought a couple of days ago. These things are everywhere in my area, and they're 15+ years old.
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      07-08-2019 09:18 PM #4
      Because VW sales exploded with them, and many are super dirt ($1500-3000) cheap now. I still see a ton of B5 era Passats around here too, amazingly enough.
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      07-08-2019 09:21 PM #5
      They are problematic and have issues, but most of the issues are fairly easily and cheaply fixed. That often means you’re mad at it, but you’ll fix it one more time. What I mean by that is that the engine itself is okay, but coil packs are cheap so you buy them in order to still have a car.

      Hmmmmm... I wonder what the average replacement interval is for MkIV coil packs.
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      07-08-2019 09:29 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by patrikman View Post
      and many are super dirt ($1500-3000) cheap now. .
      Now?! Its been like that for a decade
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      07-08-2019 09:30 PM #8
      They seem to have disappeared when I lived in the Midwest but there are plenty running around here in the PNW. I see virtually no 1.8t or VR6 models though.
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      07-08-2019 09:36 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by TangoRed View Post
      They seem to have disappeared when I lived in the Midwest but there are plenty running around here in the PNW. I see virtually no 1.8t or VR6 models though.
      yep.
      All TDIs.... and debadged 2.slows with stretch.

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      07-08-2019 09:38 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      yep.
      All TDIs.... and debadged 2.slows with stretch.
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      07-08-2019 09:41 PM #11
      I'd drive a nice late mk4 VR6 GLI today if they weren't largely beat/rusted half to death by now. They look cool and sound cool.

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      07-08-2019 09:52 PM #12
      Had a GLI for a brief moment. My ex-gf bought it (but I was the one that signed the loan). It was really nice on the inside with its two tone interior... however the coolant leaked into the harness. Car was total junk in a very short amount of time.

    14. 07-08-2019 09:54 PM #13
      I'm still driving my 98 NB. It's so last century with that cassette tape deck. It's pretty easy and cheap to keep going with rockauto.com for replacement parts.

      MKIVs do seem to attract other MKIVs in the area.


    15. 07-08-2019 09:58 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by TangoRed View Post
      . I see virtually no 1.8t or VR6 models though.
      Ditto in my area most are beat up 2.slows with the black steelies in dark blue or silver or top of the line R32s looking crispy clean

      I will admit my favorite R car was the MKIV R32

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      07-08-2019 10:22 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      Now?! Its been like that for a decade
      So they are appreciating now? Cool.
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      07-08-2019 10:24 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by troyguitar View Post
      I'd drive a nice late mk4 VR6 GLI today if they weren't largely beat/rusted half to death by now. They look cool and sound cool.
      They seem to be generally pretty well rust proofed. The trouble spot is the front fender/rocker area because road debris piles up behind the fender lining and holds water.


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      07-08-2019 10:47 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      I did not look to see if any had CELs.
      A couple years ago, a couple Mk4 kids crashed on my front lawn in a snow flurry. No joke, not more than a dusting in the road, but those f***ers crashed because of bald tires and came within a foot of taking out the tree in my front yard.

      I remember taking a look at the dash and the damn thing was lit up like a Christmas tree. The tires were so bald that we couldn’t push it out of the snow - the dudes called a friend with a Jeep to come yank them out
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      07-08-2019 11:13 PM #19
      I had a Mk3 Jetta that I liked a lot. But a Mk3 is now a really rare sight. A lot of them got exported, since they were more valuable in México. So what happened to the rest of the Mk3 Jettas and Golfs? Did they all just rust away in the snowbelt states?

      On the other hand, I still see a lot of Mk4 Jettas and Golfs around here. Apparently, they were more durable than the Mk3’s. Or perhaps fewer were exported. Incidentally, the Mk4 Jetta was sold in México as the Jetta Classic for many years after it was discontinued in the US.
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      07-08-2019 11:18 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      They are problematic and have issues, but most of the issues are fairly easily and cheaply fixed. That often means you’re mad at it, but you’ll fix it one more time. What I mean by that is that the engine itself is okay, but coil packs are cheap so you buy them in order to still have a car.

      Hmmmmm... I wonder what the average replacement interval is for MkIV coil packs.
      To be fair, crap coilpacks was more of a 1.8T problem than a MkIV-wide issue.

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      07-09-2019 12:40 AM #21
      I don't see much in the way of MK4s on the road anymore.

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    23. 07-09-2019 12:50 AM #22
      Although I can't remember the specific videos over the past couple of years of his compilations I've seen quite a few nice stock condition
      MK III Golf (not in the accidents but in frame when the accidents happen).

      This guys content is pretty good, and well, he's Russian, and I love Russia and the Russian People.

      A little shout out to Auto Passion in Russia.

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    24. 07-09-2019 01:12 AM #23
      My MK4 2000 Jetta GLX was pretty reliable until it hit 75K miles.

      Then all sorts of electrical gremlins started to surface. And then the water pump gave out. So I decided to ditch it before the car left me stranded.

      Part of me still kinda wishes I still had it though. And the lure of a 24 valve VR6/manual tranny combo is tempting. But I will most likely resist said temptation.

      Especially since they are very hard to still find around here.

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      07-09-2019 01:43 AM #24
      There are lots around here mostly TDI’s and 90% of those people are cheapskates who only drove them because of the mileage and put as little repairs into them as possible.

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      07-09-2019 06:53 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by IJM View Post
      To be fair, crap coilpacks was more of a 1.8T problem than a MkIV-wide issue.
      Well to really be fair no 1.8t actually had coilpacks

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