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      06-26-2019 02:44 PM #26
      Excellent purchase!

      I often contemplate another EV, as the way they drive is simply other-worldly. The range is good now too.

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      06-26-2019 03:03 PM #27
      OP you must loooove the Kona to pay that lease price. As a comparison I leased a Bolt on a 3/45 lease with $0 driveoff at $314 with tax. That's a huge jump for a marginally better car.

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      06-26-2019 03:12 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by vwwtchr View Post
      OP you must loooove the Kona to pay that lease price. As a comparison I leased a Bolt on a 3/45 lease with $0 driveoff at $314 with tax. That's a huge jump for a marginally better car.
      But OP is not in California. I was quoted $740 a month for 3/36 lease with $0 drive off for a Bolt LT (not even a Premier). And that's not counting $20 extra a month for property taxes we have to pay in TX. So, $760 a month for a...Bolt.
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      06-26-2019 03:22 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by vwwtchr View Post
      OP you must loooove the Kona to pay that lease price. As a comparison I leased a Bolt on a 3/45 lease with $0 driveoff at $314 with tax. That's a huge jump for a marginally better car.
      You must have received one hell of a deal, because GM is not currently offering anything close to that near me for a loaded Bolt. I was quoted nearly $700 including taxes per month on a 48 month lease.

      The best deal I can find on their site is for the base LT model with $6k due at signing (39 months and 32,500 miles) at $449 per month plus taxes. That's about $500 per month for a less powerful car with thousands more money down, and significantly less feature content. Pass.



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    6. 06-26-2019 03:30 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      So that's like 13 EV owners on TCL now? Have we reached critical mass yet?
      It's official: we have reached the tipping point.

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      06-26-2019 03:42 PM #31
      I don't know. Just went on leasehackr and the deals seem similar to when I leased in 11/17.

      https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/rate-...rebones/126060

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      06-26-2019 03:44 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by vwwtchr View Post
      I don't know. Just went on leasehackr and the deals seem similar to when I leased in 11/17.

      https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/rate-...rebones/126060
      again, depending on your market your deals may vary widely. No way I'd be able to match that here

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      06-26-2019 04:28 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by vwwtchr View Post
      I don't know. Just went on leasehackr and the deals seem similar to when I leased in 11/17.

      https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/rate-...rebones/126060
      I'm always amazed at how widely the lease numbers can vary, but yeah, I had been looking casually at the Bolt for 2 years now and I have never seen leases that low in my region. The lease deal I posted a screenshot of in my prior post is straight from Chevrolet's website.

      Trust me, I was hoping for another $300/mo lease, but they don't seem to give those deals outside of CA and maybe a few other select markets. It's sadly just not a reality for us here in Nevada.

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      06-26-2019 05:03 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by zmt2 View Post
      again, depending on your market your deals may vary widely. No way I'd be able to match that here
      Me: I got a great deal on BMW 330i lease

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      Me: $115 a month with $0 DAS, 12k miles/36 months

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      06-26-2019 06:56 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by Uber Wagon View Post
      Me: I got a great deal on BMW 330i lease

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      Me: $115 a month with $0 DAS, 12k miles/36 months

      TFL: You got ripped.

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      Well the rule of thumb on a lease is a good deal is $100 per $10,000 of MSRP. So $115 is great.

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      07-01-2019 04:12 PM #36
      Just a quick update:

      So far I've been thoroughly impressed with the range. Granted, it's been warm out but even with the AC on in the afternoon I've been getting in the realm of 290 miles per charge. It's hard to figure exactly because I don't run the battery all the way down to zero.

      My biggest complaint so far is road noise. On grooved concrete highways this thing can get boomy. I'm thinking of switching to these tires and selling the craptastic OEM Nexens. https://www.wired.com/story/bridgest...iettrack-tire/

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      07-01-2019 06:22 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by BLK9GEN View Post
      Just a quick update:

      So far I've been thoroughly impressed with the range. Granted, it's been warm out but even with the AC on in the afternoon I've been getting in the realm of 290 miles per charge. It's hard to figure exactly because I don't run the battery all the way down to zero.
      Does the Kona offer a remote start or a timered pre-conditioning while on a charger?

      One of my coworkers drives a Bolt, he uses preconditioning here in soupy-humid SC to reduce his AC energy consumption on the drive home.
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      There is an area of a normal brain that lets the owner know the object works and needs to be left alone. Not all of us have it. It is like being colorblind.

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      07-01-2019 07:18 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by turbinepowered View Post
      Does the Kona offer a remote start or a timered pre-conditioning while on a charger?

      One of my coworkers drives a Bolt, he uses preconditioning here in soupy-humid SC to reduce his AC energy consumption on the drive home.
      It does indeed. The app is called MyHyundai and it works quite well. I haven't used it to pre-cool or heat the car yet aside from just testing that it works. It will work even if the car is not plugged in unlike our Soul EV, which kind of defeats the purpose if you're trying to maximize your range, but is nice when you're out and about and not connected to a charger and don't want to get into a hot/cold car.

      Functionally the app works very well and is worlds quicker than the app that comes comes with our Kia Soul, but the graphics/design is hot garbage. It looks cheesy and dated compared to the Tesla app - no huge shock there. What really gets me though is that they show a pic of a non-color matched gasoline Kona.

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    15. 07-01-2019 07:20 PM #39
      I got excited until I realized at least in Canada the Kona electric costs 2x as much as a standard Kona, kinda makes it a pointless endeavor.

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      07-01-2019 07:39 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by BLK9GEN View Post
      It does indeed. The app is called MyHyundai and it works quite well. I haven't used it to pre-cool or heat the car yet aside from just testing that it works. It will work even if the car is not plugged in unlike our Soul EV, which kind of defeats the purpose if you're trying to maximize your range, but is nice when you're out and about and not connected to a charger and don't want to get into a hot/cold car.

      Functionally the app works very well and is worlds quicker than the app that comes comes with our Kia Soul, but the graphics/design is hot garbage.
      Good to know!

      Does that require an active Bluelink subscription, or is it part of the car purchase?
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      07-01-2019 07:40 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by BLK9GEN View Post
      It does indeed. The app is called MyHyundai and it works quite well. I haven't used it to pre-cool or heat the car yet aside from just testing that it works. It will work even if the car is not plugged in unlike our Soul EV, which kind of defeats the purpose if you're trying to maximize your range, but is nice when you're out and about and not connected to a charger and don't want to get into a hot/cold car.
      The Chevy version of the app was a godsend during the winters.

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      07-01-2019 07:52 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by BLK9GEN View Post
      Just a quick update:


      My biggest complaint so far is road noise. On grooved concrete highways this thing can get boomy. I'm thinking of switching to these tires and selling the craptastic OEM Nexens.
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      Like most manufacturers they probably place low rolling resistance tires on your car. Quieter tires will probably cost you a little range but if the noise is that bad they might be worth it. I'd still roll with the original rubber as long as they last since tires don't come cheap.

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      07-01-2019 09:39 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by turbinepowered View Post
      Good to know!

      Does that require an active Bluelink subscription, or is it part of the car purchase?
      Indeed it does. All new Hyundai's now come with a 3 year subscription which is at least better than my 2016 Tucson that only came with 3 months.

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      07-01-2019 09:44 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      So that's like 13 EV owners on TCL now? Have we reached critical mass yet?

      I think it's more like 16, my EV runs off of fermented dinosaurs. Sinclair fueling stations predicted our now! (green dinosaur mascots if you didn't know).
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      07-01-2019 09:48 PM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by tejlab View Post
      I got excited until I realized at least in Canada the Kona electric costs 2x as much as a standard Kona, kinda makes it a pointless endeavor.
      I do not disagree that EVs are still pricey relative to their very similar gas equivalents, but there are various tax incentives to help offset some of that. Unfortunately there is no getting around the significant cost of big battery packs. The Kona is the longest range non-Tesla EV for sale so at least there is a that.

      Still, if you're looking to save money a hybrid is a much better option. The hybrid Kona is on the way FYI. You'd have to keep the Kona Electric a looooong time to actually save any money. At least it comes with a lifetime battery warranty should anyone want to keep it for the long haul.

      For me I didn't get th Kona to impress anyone (obviously) or save money. I got it because I simply loved the driving experience. EVs are great commuter cars. At 5000' above sea level where I am at it's quicker than most other cars/trucks on the road. All that instant torque makes merging and passing a breeze. And the lack of NVH is really stress-reducing after a long day at the office.

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      07-02-2019 08:32 AM #46
      Being in a CAFE state, I thought I'd try to figure out what one of these would cost me...

      Here in Vermont, the Hyundai would be eligible for the full $7500 Federal Tax Credit.

      Power Company Incentives:
      Green Mountain Power is offering electric car incentives, including $1,500 for a new all-electric vehicle, $1,000 for a new plug-in hybrid, or $750 for a used electric car (either all-electric or plug-in hybrid). The first 150 low-to-moderate income customers getting a new or used all-electric vehicle will also qualify for an additional $1,000 rebate. These incentives are available for customers purchasing or leasing electric cars with a manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP) under $50,000. Interested customers are encouraged to visit GMP's EV rebate page for additional details.

      GMP also offers customers free Level 2 (240 Volt) charging equipment with a new electric vehicle purchase. Existing electric car owners can obtain Level 2 equipment from GMP for a $9.99 monthly fee. Visit their in-home charging page for more details.
      It still winds up being a lot more than I've ever paid for a car, but there are certainly incentives. left for Hyundai buyers.

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      07-02-2019 08:40 AM #47
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      Looks like an excellent car.

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      07-02-2019 09:20 AM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by antilock View Post
      Like most manufacturers they probably place low rolling resistance tires on your car. Quieter tires will probably cost you a little range but if the noise is that bad they might be worth it. I'd still roll with the original rubber as long as they last since tires don't come cheap.
      I would store the OEM tires and put them back on before turning the car in at the end of the lease.
      Improving the signal-to-noise ratio

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      07-02-2019 10:57 AM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by adrew View Post
      I would store the OEM tires and put them back on before turning the car in at the end of the lease.
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      07-02-2019 01:48 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by BLK9GEN View Post
      My biggest complaint so far is road noise. On grooved concrete highways this thing can get boomy. I'm thinking of switching to these tires and selling the craptastic OEM Nexens.
      I'd highly recommend the Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus for any EV. $140 for your car at Tire Rack. I have them on my Focus and they are very quiet along with low rolling resistance, perfectly suiting the car.

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