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    1. 05-23-2019 09:17 PM #1
      It saved Chrysler and was the genius of Lee Iaccoca . My Dad had a Caravelle ugly as sin but it drove. My wife had a Dodge Aries. These cars were the old shi**y cars kids of the 90s drove. You do not see them much anymore but I remember them being everywhere. I actually am hearing one in good condition will actually go for a good amount of money these days. Most are probably in bad shape I would think. The Lebaron Convertibles are probably starting to become sorta collectible.


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      05-23-2019 09:36 PM #2
      Horrible, horrible cars. But yeah, you're right.
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      05-23-2019 09:42 PM #3
      I took my first driver test in my grandparents Dodge 600. IRRC it was 3 months old.

      As expected it told me to fasten my seat belt but then caught me by surprise to tell me to release the parking brake as it had never been used before but had to be on to not lose points on that test.

      I'm not sure why but a couple years later they traded it in for a car they liked much better, a Plymouth Reliant.
      Next edit by onebadbug; tomorrow at 10:13 AM.

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    5. 05-23-2019 09:47 PM #4
      My parents had an Aires, I used to borrow it without their permission late, late at night........

    6. 05-23-2019 09:49 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by Iroczgirl View Post
      Horrible, horrible cars. But yeah, you're right.
      I believe they were the first American front wheel drive cars that were sold to the masses. They also brought back the convertible to America in the 1980s. I mean the Ford Fox Body was not good looking either to most people. My mom had a LTD which had that boxy 80s look. Also, the first Ford Escort was ugly as sin.

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      05-23-2019 09:50 PM #6
      Hell yes I had a college roommate who had one, still pristine well into this century. He was a defensive tackle and we had an even wider friend who could comfortably join him on that soft front bench. I remember it sweatily lugging a backseatful of man, too. It seemed to have bottomless suspension travel and a weary acceptance of anything.

      It was stolen by a discerning thief and never seen again. ~R.I.P.~
      You look nice today.

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      05-23-2019 09:51 PM #7
      The only car my mother bought on her own was a Dodge 600, because she knew my grandfather would be borrowing it and he liked bench seats. Supposedly, both the muffler and the rear view mirror fell off on the same drive home from work one day. When my parents started dating, my dad got her to trade it in for a Toyota Corolla (the RWD one) and the radio died as they drove over the speedbump to pull into the dealer lot.

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      05-23-2019 09:53 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by r286ps2 View Post
      I believe they were the first American front wheel drive cars that were sold to the masses. They also brought back the convertible to America in the 1980s. I mean the Ford Fox Body was not good looking either to most people. My mom had a LTD which had that boxy 80s look. Also, the first Ford Escort was ugly as sin.
      No, the Chevrolet X-body beat it by a year (Chevy Citation).

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      Quote Originally Posted by Crimping Is Easy View Post
      You're always better off with a Citroën.™

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      05-23-2019 09:56 PM #9
      My friend had one in the mid 80's. It even had 3 pedals. That was about the only redeeming quality.

    11. 05-23-2019 09:56 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by Iroczgirl View Post
      No, the Chevrolet X-body beat it by a year (Chevy Citation).

      The L Body Chrysler was out before that. Anyway The Chrysler were everywhere. I never seen a Chevy Citation ever.


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      05-23-2019 10:07 PM #11
      My uncle still has one. He’s even in some k car club. I think it is a New Yorker or something. I let it go because I have a beloved Jeep Zj with Chrysler logos all over it.

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      05-23-2019 10:10 PM #12
      A high school classmate got one at a (1982) graduation present. Base car, 3 speed manual.
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      05-23-2019 10:14 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by Iroczgirl View Post
      Horrible, horrible cars
      If you are talking about the Citation, then I agree.

      K-cars were far from horrible.
      Not great cars, but they were cheap, reliable and easy to drive.
      Horrible? How so?

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      05-23-2019 10:15 PM #14
      Jon Voight had a Le Baron
      test test Maki says "hello"

    16. 05-23-2019 10:17 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by r286ps2 View Post
      The L Body Chrysler was out before that. Anyway The Chrysler were everywhere. I never seen a Chevy Citation ever.

      Citation needed. Hah! Sometimes I crack myself up

      One of our single mom secretaries in one of our offices had a sh¡tty car that died on her one day, and she went and got a Dodge Aries 4-door in that light blue color they virtually all came in. She was soooo proud of getting it on her own... It was great for about a year and then it all went to hell piecemeal, stuff falling off, switches not working, the radio would buzz, I forget all the drama but it was, let's just say, diplomatically, troublesome. She traded it in on a midsized Ford something for an extra $50 a month and never had a lick of trouble with it...

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      05-23-2019 10:23 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by boogetyboogety View Post
      Citation needed. Hah! Sometimes I crack myself up

      One of our single mom secretaries in one of our offices had a sh¡tty car that died on her one day, and she went and got a Dodge Aries 4-door in that light blue color they virtually all came in. She was soooo proud of getting it on her own... It was great for about a year and then it all went to hell piecemeal, stuff falling off, switches not working, the radio would buzz, I forget all the drama but it was, let's just say, diplomatically, troublesome. She traded it in on a midsized Ford something for an extra $50 a month and never had a lick of trouble with it...
      Just wanted to point out that K-cars did not have a bad/unreliable image back then.
      And there are always lemons.

    18. 05-23-2019 10:30 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by boogetyboogety View Post
      Citation needed. Hah! Sometimes I crack myself up

      One of our single mom secretaries in one of our offices had a sh¡tty car that died on her one day, and she went and got a Dodge Aries 4-door in that light blue color they virtually all came in. She was soooo proud of getting it on her own... It was great for about a year and then it all went to hell piecemeal, stuff falling off, switches not working, the radio would buzz, I forget all the drama but it was, let's just say, diplomatically, troublesome. She traded it in on a midsized Ford something for an extra $50 a month and never had a lick of trouble with it...
      Yup, Chrysler were not know for quality. However, where I live below the mason-dixon line in a rural type area the most popular car brand is Chrysler. Just about all my neighbors have a Dodge or Chrysler. I assume it is because they are cheaper but they do sell well even if they fall apart. I had a Ford Taurus and it was an ok car. However, my wife had a Mercury Sable it sucked and the transmission went on it. I had a chevy metro also and the 3 speed auto transmission went out on it twice but it was so cheap to replace it it was not a big deal. Cars today probably cost a lot to replace a transmission an old K Car is probably not that expensive to replace a tranny. I also stay far far away from all wheel drive cars as repairs for something that breaks on them is probably head spinning. Some have more than one fuel pump, yikes.
      Last edited by r286ps2; 05-23-2019 at 10:35 PM.

    19. 05-23-2019 10:34 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Just wanted to point out that K-cars did not have a bad/unreliable image back then.
      And there are always lemons.
      They would of not of sold as many as they did if they were known to be bad but Chrysler seems to sell well even today. People pay way too much for Jeeps in my opinion that is there bread and butter. Not sure how they do it as they rank low on quality.

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      05-23-2019 10:41 PM #19
      In high school at the turn of this century, my buddy had a beige old Plymouth Reliant, and at one point we used it to re-shoot the video for Sabotage by the Beastie Boys.

    21. 05-23-2019 10:53 PM #20
      I took driver-training school in a base model Dodge Aries, 4-speed manual, 2.2 carbureted. These cars were plentiful back then (late 1980s), I knew several people who had one, and had them (and the Spirit/Acclaim successors) as rentals/loaners a few times back in that era.

      While they are awful cars viewed from the modern perspective, so were most of its competitors. The GM X-cars were arguably worse. The Ford Fairmont was definitely worse. The Ford Tempo was arguably better (not by much) but it was introduced a few years later, so it ought to be. Toyotas and Datsuns from back then were not great, either. The competitor that was head and shoulders above any of these cars back then, at least when the cars were new-ish, was the Honda Accord. It eventually turned out that the Hondas rusted apart while the K-cars were still running, although badly.

      The K-cars, at the time that they were introduced, were competitive in the marketplace. The main problem is that the platform lingered on for long past its sell-by date, during which time the above-mentioned Honda Accord went through two more generations, each one a big improvement on the last, and we all know how that went.

    22. 05-23-2019 10:58 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Just wanted to point out that K-cars did not have a bad/unreliable image back then.
      And there are always lemons.
      Quote Originally Posted by r286ps2 View Post
      They would of not of sold as many as they did if they were known to be bad but Chrysler seems to sell well even today. People pay way too much for Jeeps in my opinion that is there bread and butter. Not sure how they do it as they rank low on quality.
      My Beloved and I bought a new wood-gained Plymouth Voyager when first married, which took us on many epic trips all over the US without any major issues. We replaced it with a Dodge Ram conversion van which served the same duties, just as reliably, for many years. Not all the Mopar stuff fell apart, but not all of it was trouble-free, either. Anecdotes abound targeting both extremes.

      The K cars were so-so, they had their time in the sun thanks to unrelenting news coverage and imaginative commercials, but there's a reason there are so few survivors today... Along with, say, Citations... The early '80s were not the acme of vehicle reliability by any American manufacturer by any measure.

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      05-23-2019 11:42 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by Lwize View Post
      John Voight had a Le Baron
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      05-24-2019 12:00 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by Iroczgirl View Post
      No, the Chevrolet X-body beat it by a year (Chevy Citation).

      My parents had the Pontiac version of the same car (well, four door), a 1980 Phoenix. Nothing to write home about of course, but theirs did have the 6 cylinder and a four speed manual. I was 12 in 1987 when they sold it, so never got to drive it.
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      05-24-2019 12:07 AM #24
      I had an 1984 wagon in 1992. Cheap car, but it was usefull to haul stuff around, like a Marshall stack.
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      05-24-2019 12:08 AM #25
      My grandfather had a K-car wagon.

      Please.

      They weren't that bad.

      This is a Volkswagen site.

      Get over yourselves.

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