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      05-15-2019 04:33 PM #1



      Quote Originally Posted by Autocar
      From a shortlist of 17 potential victors, the Lotus Elise took home the readers' choice 'Icon of Icons' award. This year, we asked you to vote for the greatest car nameplate of all time - and tens of thousands of you took part.

      Here are the seventeen cars shortlisted for the award:

      Land Rover | Mini | Porsche 911 | Mazda MX-5 | BMW 3 Series | Lotus Elise | Jaguar XJ | Jeep Wrangler | Ford Mustang | Suzuki Jimny | Range Rover | Mercedes-Benz S-Class | Nissan Skyline | Toyota Corolla | Volkswagen Beetle | Lotus Seven | Fiat 500

      Over the past few weeks, we brought you seventeen contenders for the 2019 Autocar Readers’ Champion award, with different members of the Autocar team championing each one. Criteria for entry was simple: each car needed to have the same name from birth, and still be on sale today (or, in a few cases, arriving soon as an all-new model).

      Now, ‘icon is an overused word’ is itself an overused phrase. But if a nameplate can be iconic, the seventeen cars that comprise our list all certainly fit the bill. Whether it be for motorsport success, influence on automotive design, sheer volume of sales or the impact made on motoring culture, each nominee could rightfully claim the title.

      While it is undoubtedly the case that certain cars in this list have mobilised entire nations, the same cannot be said for this very impractical two-seater sports car.

      And while others still have become cultural artefacts, either through a starring role in a famous film or for having transported so many of us throughout our childhoods, that isn’t true here. In fact, on the subject of the Lotus Elise – a car few people will have sat in and far fewer still will ever own – all that I have to recommend it over the likes of the Fiat 500 and the Volkswagen Beetle is that it has consistently been one of the best driver’s cars at any money ever since it was first introduced 23 years ago. With that in mind, does any of the other stuff even matter?

      That isn’t to say there is nothing else to recommend the Elise, for not only did it wrench one of this country’s most treasured automotive marques from certain oblivion, it is also innovative and interesting. Its chassis, for instance, is made from aluminium extrusions that are glued together (if you have ever squeezed Play-Doh through a mould, you have made an extrusion). The car is therefore very stiff and very light. Although later models have invariably grown heavier, the 1996 original weighed just 725kg. A modern Formula 1 car with a driver weighs more.

      The fact that the Elise has lived on for this long with only two major upgrades during its lifetime tells us something heartening: that the simple pleasure of driving an interactive sports car along a winding road is as appealing now as it ever was. And although its technical blueprint was determined two and a half decades ago, the Elise’s basic recipe is one that will only become more apposite as time rolls on.

      After all, when the car we drive every day is powered by electric motors with a single-speed transmission and fully synthesised steering, and when it is heavy with lithium ion batteries and communications hardware, we will want more and more for the car we keep in the garage to be light, small, nimble, powered by a buzzy petrol engine, for it to have a manual transmission and unassisted steering and an amount of performance that can be tapped into on increasingly congested roads. The Lotus Elise is more the sports car of the future than it is the sports car of the past.

      Aside from its lack of mass and its very detailed steering, the Elise is so brilliant to drive because of simple, straightforward and uncomplicated chassis tuning. Its springs are not unnecessarily firm, which means each wheel is free to rise and fall in time with undulations in the road surface. The damping is of such a high quality, meanwhile, that the body remains composed and level, so that whatever the road, the Elise is exquisite to drive. And that, surely, is all that really matters.
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      05-15-2019 04:39 PM #2
      I've always liked Lotus cars. Especially the Exige, but Elise is great too.
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      05-15-2019 04:42 PM #3
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      Ford Mustang, VW Beetle or GTFO. Ask 100 ordinary people, or shucks, 100 car enthusiasts, to name the most iconic car on sale today, using their criteria without giving them the 17 contenders... zero people will say Lotus Elise. Ask those same 100 people and give them the list of names, still, zero people will says Lotus Elise. These panelist picked the Elise because they felt it was the best handling... that criteria isn't related to "iconic" in the least.


      No corvvette/camaro on the list? oook European panelists from co.uk.
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      05-15-2019 04:45 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by col.mustard View Post
      Ford Mustang or VW Beetle or GTFO. Ask 100 ordinary people, or shucks, 100 car enthusiasts, to name the most iconic car, using their criteria without giving them the 17 contenders... zero people will say Lotus Elise. Ask those same 100 people and give them the list of names, still, zero people will says Lotus Elise.
      This is from a British magazine though.
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      05-15-2019 04:47 PM #5
      Of course there's an orange one.
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      05-15-2019 04:50 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by Uber Wagon View Post
      This is from a British magazine though.
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      05-15-2019 04:53 PM #7
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      Homer pick for sure.

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      05-15-2019 05:52 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by col.mustard View Post
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      Ford Mustang, VW Beetle or GTFO. Ask 100 ordinary people, or shucks, 100 car enthusiasts, to name the most iconic car on sale today, using their criteria without giving them the 17 contenders... zero people will say Lotus Elise. Ask those same 100 people and give them the list of names, still, zero people will says Lotus Elise. These panelist picked the Elise because they felt it was the best handling... that criteria isn't related to "iconic" in the least.

      No corvvette/camaro on the list? oook European panelists from co.uk.
      Agreed. Cool cars no doubt, but does not fit the word "iconic."
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      05-15-2019 06:49 PM #11
      So they give several examples of exactly why it isn't iconic....

      Then go on the declare it the most iconic.

      Ironic.
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      05-15-2019 07:13 PM #12
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