I’m starting to get really tired of all the “Daenerys burning Kings Landing was out of character “ takes across the media.
Daenerys has always vowed vengeance, chased power, and killed whomever she wanted to to get it. Sure she let some slaves free, but only so they’d follow her and fight for her. She only has power because of the Dragons and she’s ruled and conquered with fear and fire all along.
They’ve RUSHED the storyline this season, for sure. But this has been Telegraphed since day 1.
There are a LOT of gaping, obvious, plot holes this season. I don’t think the Mad Queen’s story is one of them.
Seems a lot of GoT viewers wanted Daenerys to be a Disney princess or something.
You can't find a prior example or even a hint of that.
That is the issue. It's always been people that stood in her way or wronged her.
Even when she crucified the masters in Meereen and finds out Hizdahr zo Loraq's father spoke out against the crimes, she allows him to take his body down for proper burial.
The thing is, if she was that enraged at Cersei (I would be), she could have went right to the Red Keep and burned that mother down.
Instead she took out the entire city. And what's more is that the effing city surrendered!! She won!!!
Then she's just like .... nahhh you all die. It's weak.
But like I said in a prior post, I'm okay with the turn.
As you said, it was rushed. I think we needed some other, smaller actions to get us to this point. Maybe have it unfold differently.
Last edited by kal-el21; 05-16-2019 at 02:57 PM.
This is a pretty good DOG article kind of outlining what a lot of people are saying; that Dany's heel turn has been hinted and foreshadowed, but the actual pivot was too abrupt.
Originally Posted by Col. David Crockett
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on Dani. Yes, her heel turn is being rushed, but it's been telegraphed since day 1 and I think people are WAY overreacting about this because too many people seemed to want her to be something she never was or was never going to be. A lot of women in my life seemed to have thought she was Elsa with dragons. What she is, is wounded megalomaniac with the greatest weapons(s) in the Realm, who feels like she deserves the Iron throne and will burn anyone in her way to get it.
fwiw, I 100% think they should have just had her fly to the Red Keep and destroy it and Cersei. Would have been a much better ending to the episode. But given how she was always going to be the Mad Queen and given that they (stupidly) only gave themselves a couple of episodes to make that turn happen, this was the inevitable decent.
I'd be stunned if GRRM writes her ending any differently, or more softly.
Daenerys Targaryen: A teenager with nukes.
The greatest problem in this regard was Daenerys Targaryen. She has become a powerful icon in the geek community and beyond, beloved by cosplayers, practically a Disney princess. She filled a gap in the culture: We were crying out, and still are, for more portrayals of strong female leadership. Her blend of fragility and steely charisma — portrayed to perfection by Emilia Clarke — won as many hearts and minds in our world as she failed to win in Westeros.
So much so that for years, it was hard to remember what she really is, and what she has always been in this story, worldwide fandom or no.
The debate about whether Dany's massacre of King's Landing was sufficiently foreshadowed has been raging online since the episode aired, so I'm not going to rehash it here. This video does a pretty good job of collecting eight seasons' worth of receipts:
Sure, the showrunners could have given us a longer look at her inner turmoil. By killing off most of her main advisors, they painted themselves into a corner. Anyone she could have had that dialogue with was gone. Maybe she could have had a longer chat with Tyrion or Grey Worm. Regardless, it was still very clear that Dany was hungry, angry, lonely, and tired. As any addict or codependent knows, that state of mind portends the worst.
But the strongest argument for the episode's twist is this: It was baked into the character from the beginning, no matter how much we loved her.And then there was the burning of the Tarlys, one of the least noticed but most telling moments of season 7. I've seen otherwise reasonable people defend Dany for killing Samwell's father and brother in this grisly manner with arguments that don't withstand a second of scrutiny. They were enemy combatants! (Nope, they had surrendered; in our world, that would be a clear-cut war crime.) They refused to recognize her authority! (Okay, imprison them.) They were mean to Samwell! (So we're burning people alive for being mean now?)
All along, Dany has been telling us who she really was, and we should have believed her the first time. "I'm going to break the wheel," she said, and we thought she meant the metaphorical wheel that keeps the downtrodden down. What she actually meant was the metaphorical wheel that kept her family off the throne. She might as well have yelled "Targaryens forever!"
Congratulations to the producers/writers for quickly finishing the job by copy-pasta using the Hunger Games plot.
I've been reading the producers want to move on quickly and start working on a new Star Wars trilogy. That's find and all but why couldn't HBO tell them to give a proper length sendoff to GoT and if not then find new producers for the final season(s).
What a terrible way to close an era. Dexter/Sienfield fans can finally feel redeemed that another show took to worst ending crown.
Last night felt like an Epilogue in a book, not the Grand Finale I think we all wanted.