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    1. 03-06-2019 03:40 AM #26
      Is someone'd slap an Aston or Jaguar badge on this, nobody would question its legitimacy.

      Hyundai is suffering from some major bipolar disorder. How can you explain the new Sonata and this abomination in the same portfolio and designed roughly at the same time:


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    3. 03-06-2019 03:44 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by tejlab View Post

      Hyundai was doing the hexagonal-shaped grille before Audi.

      They actually added the cascading element (which I dislike) to distinguish their grille from Audi and others who also use the hexagonal shape.

      Audi tried to distinguish its front end (on a couple of models) by going w/ an octagonal grille, but Ford had the exact same thought (so who copied whom?).


      Quote Originally Posted by CTK View Post
      Looks too big but I like it. Big question is what they do with the next Elantra
      Needed to grow to compete w/ the Accord and Camry which have cavernous rears, not to mention to allow for enough rear headroom w/ that sloping roofline.


      The next Elantra should grow some as well, as it is currently on the smaller side.


      Quote Originally Posted by andlf View Post
      Will it be FWD or RWD?
      FWD, but likely w/ available AWD.

      New Theta III 2.5T and the 1.5T being the engines (based on a report on the new Optima).

      3 transmissions - the 8 spd AT, 7 spd DCT and the new 8 spd DCT for the sportier/more performance oriented variants, including the Sonata-N.


      Quote Originally Posted by someguy123 View Post
      Honda called. They want their Civic's tail lights back
      Hyundai called - want the Genesis tail lights back that were on the previous Accord.

      They also want the extended chrome trim design element and the window-dip (Odyssey) back.


      Quote Originally Posted by Seabird View Post
      Volvo called and said to get in line.

      That said, this is the nicest Korean design yet. Aside from the tail lights, it is neither derivative nor random and odd.






      Volvo was also doing the lobster-claw design lighting element before Honda.



      And speaking of Volvo, people are more likely to confuse the rear of the Sonata w/ that of the Polestar 2.








      A cool/new element is that what was once the extended chrome trim is now a chromic looking hidden lighting element.





      Anyhow, this actually turned out better than what I was expecting from the spy shots.

      Wish the greenhouse was a bit different tho, too reminiscent of the old Azera; also don't like the cascading element of the grille.
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      03-06-2019 04:09 AM #28
      But The TCL told me sedans were dying!1!

      Looks good. I was a fan of the styling of the 10-14 gen.
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    5. 03-06-2019 04:15 AM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by chocofrappe55 View Post
      Is someone'd slap an Aston or Jaguar badge on this, nobody would question its legitimacy.

      Hyundai is suffering from some major bipolar disorder. How can you explain the new Sonata and this abomination in the same portfolio and designed roughly at the same time:

      Wouldn't go that far.

      But yes, the facelifted Elantra is an abomination.
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    6. 03-06-2019 05:34 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by CP1 View Post
      And speaking of Volvo, people are more likely to confuse the rear of the Sonata w/ that of the Polestar 2.
      Nobody will confuse it with Polestar because save for a dozen of people who bothered to open a TCL thread with its name and briefly saw pictures noone will ever see it again.

      I read that thread just a few days ago and already couldn't remember a single design element from that car aside from awkward sedan profile. I had no idea it had similar taillights. I won't remember it again 20 seconds after I close this thread. Polestar utterly forgettable. You won't forget Sonata though and it will be everywhere in 3...2...1..

      And then people won't remember in what order they debuted and everyone will say Polestar stole Sonata's rear design. That is, if anyone ever remembers again about Polestar existence.

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      03-06-2019 05:39 AM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      Really?

      Even the CLA is FWD.
      Quote Originally Posted by CP1 View Post

      FWD, but likely w/ available AWD.

      New Theta III 2.5T and the 1.5T being the engines (based on a report on the new Optima).
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      03-06-2019 05:57 AM #32
      To me, this is even uglier than the new Elantra.

      I seem to have bought in at the sweet spot of Hyundai sedans because I wouldn't touch any of the new ones now.
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      03-06-2019 06:11 AM #33
      Unlike most here, I hate it. Front and rear end are over styled. These light bars like seen on the rear will be a complete pain in the arse when they go bad. Probably multiple hundreds to replace and I'm seeing a ton of recent FCA products with half lit light bars. Side profile looks nice but its not a four-door coupe. Interior is decent.

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      03-06-2019 06:29 AM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0_Mazda View Post
      Unlike most here, I hate it. Front and rear end are over styled. These light bars like seen on the rear will be a complete pain in the arse when they go bad. Probably multiple hundreds to replace and I'm seeing a ton of recent FCA products with half lit light bars. Side profile looks nice but its not a four-door coupe. Interior is decent.

      So blackout it the exaggerated tail lights of quite a few Durangos and Chargers I see isn’t a feature? Because by the frequency I’ve seen it you’d swear it was.

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      03-06-2019 07:26 AM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by antilock View Post
      Nice looking for a mainstream sedan, although I wonder since the sedan is dying now, if it's too late to the party? Perhaps there's more room though given GM & Ford are slowly killing of their sedans.
      Ford is full of sh!t.
      There's always going to be a market for sedans and things other than CUVs and F150s.
      Ford's strategy for anything not the F150 has been a boom-bust cycle of investment and promotional activity, followed by years of withering on the vine.
      This is a company that has introduced and killed the Taurus TWICE! They let that once segment leading vehicle lose relevancy.
      They introduced the Fusion, to replace the Taurus. Invested millions in tooling and marketing, and again....POOF!....gone.
      Ditto for every mainstream Ford sedan that has EVER existed.
      Meanwhile, Hyundai keeps nurturing and investing in the midsized sedan segment (amongst many other sedans), as does Toyota, Honda, Nissan.

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      03-06-2019 07:41 AM #36
      I'll need to see it in person. Rarely do I think full length tail lights look good. And that side surfacing is needlessly complex. But it could end up looking better in person. Overall I like it, and I have enjoyed watching H/K refine their designs and mature over the years. They have some really neat cars now.
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      03-06-2019 09:15 AM #37
      It looks pretty nice, good for them. That said, I think Hyundai probably can get away with consolidating production in Korea to free up space in Alabama for more SUVs. But H/K have been among the slowest to recognize and acknowledge the transition away from cars, so who knows.

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      03-06-2019 09:23 AM #38
      I don't hate it, but I don't love it. Something from the design is missing and I can't put my finger on it.

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      03-06-2019 09:24 AM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by Unilateral Phase Detractor View Post
      It looks pretty nice, good for them. That said, I think Hyundai probably can get away with consolidating production in Korea to free up space in Alabama for more SUVs. But H/K have been among the slowest to recognize and acknowledge the transition away from cars, so who knows.
      Really???!!!
      It seems like Hyundai and Kia have a ridiculous number of CUVs. Easily more than most of the other Asian manufacturers, other than Toyota.

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      03-06-2019 09:52 AM #40
      Very curious to hear about the Theta III and if it makes its way into the next Elantra.

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      03-06-2019 10:12 AM #41
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      03-06-2019 10:28 AM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by andlf View Post
      ...Cabin Pics, aren't the Genesis Coupe & sedan RWD? Kia Stinger RWD & AWD? Dude, really?
      None of those are family sedans with the Toyota Camry as their main competitor. It was slightly rude, but there was no way they were going to launch a RWD family sedan.
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      03-06-2019 10:37 AM #43
      Very handsome and striking. If the driving dynamics match the looks, this is a runner up for the Accord replacement.
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      03-06-2019 11:15 AM #44
      Yeah, definitely a styling win for hyundai. I don't love the chrome strip between the fender and hood, but I think the lighting element that makes up part of it is neat, so I dunno how else to resolve that. It's both different and cohesive as someone else mentioned. I'd expect at least moderate conquest sales for this gen.

    21. 03-06-2019 11:30 AM #45
      From the pictures, the front view looks good, but I don't like how the rear looks especially with how the trunk is designed...

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      03-06-2019 11:39 AM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by TangoRed View Post
      None of those are family sedans with the Toyota Camry as their main competitor. It was slightly rude, but there was no way they were going to launch a RWD family sedan.
      Bingo.

      I wasn't trying to come off as rude, but thought it was quite obvious.

      I'd be very surprised if an AWD version is offered. This competes with the Camry, not the 5 series.
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      03-06-2019 11:44 AM #47
      Good God Hyundai and KIA have been killing it on styling lately. I know they are press shots, but that interior looks very, very good. I daresay it looks better than what they have on offer in the G70.

      Edit: I wonder if Lexus was having a firesale on RC-F rims and Hyundai picked a few crates up.

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      03-06-2019 11:59 AM #48
      Sedans aren't dying; they're just not going to sell at the epic volumes they're used to. Toyota isn't going to suddenly kill of the Camry/Corolla just because it's selling at 400K units combined instead of 500K (fake numbers). Still money to be made in the segment.

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      03-06-2019 12:03 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by Meroving1an View Post
      Sedans aren't dying; they're just not going to sell at the epic volumes they're used to. Toyota isn't going to suddenly kill of the Camry/Corolla just because it's selling at 400K units combined instead of 500K (fake numbers). Still money to be made in the segment.
      Yep. FCA was right when they said sedans are going to become increasingly stylized and upmarket. CUVs are here to stay as the main people movers. Sedans will become the new coupes and coupes will become increasingly more niche.

    26. 03-06-2019 05:17 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by chocofrappe55 View Post
      Nobody will confuse it with Polestar because save for a dozen of people who bothered to open a TCL thread with its name and briefly saw pictures noone will ever see it again.
      That may be so, esp. since Volvo has threatened not to bring over the Polestar 2 due to possible tariffs.


      But if the Polestar 2 was available here and sold in big nos. (not likely since it's an EV), people would be more apt to confuse the rears of those 2.



      Quote Originally Posted by andlf View Post
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      ...Cabin Pics, aren't the Genesis Coupe & sedan RWD? Kia Stinger RWD & AWD? Dude, really?

      Putting aside that the Genesis coupe hasn't been around for a few years (should be getting a new Genesis coupe in a couple of years), don't see why a FWD/AWD family sedan would be such an issue.

      Many drivers in snowy climes prefer AWD to FWD, and it's not like there haven't been family sedans w/ AWD - Legacy, Altima, Fusion, 200.

      Toyota added AWD to its minivan and now the Prius.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Unilateral Phase Detractor View Post
      It looks pretty nice, good for them. That said, I think Hyundai probably can get away with consolidating production in Korea to free up space in Alabama for more SUVs. But H/K have been among the slowest to recognize and acknowledge the transition away from cars, so who knows.
      They were slow, but they are coming back w/ a vengeance.

      Recently added the Kona and Nexo (granted, very niche market), will soon add the Palisade and will also be adding an A-segment CUV and at least 1 BEV CUV.

      The Alabama plant will be adding the next gen Tucson and Santa Cruz (same platform as the Tucson) its current lineup of Sonata, Elantra and Santa Fe.


      Quote Originally Posted by whitejeep1989 View Post
      Really???!!!
      It seems like Hyundai and Kia have a ridiculous number of CUVs. Easily more than most of the other Asian manufacturers, other than Toyota.
      Hyundai was late to the party w/ a subcompact CUV and a proper 3-row/8 passenger CUV.

      In addition, not just the # of models, but production capacity.

      Toyota, Honda and Nissan build more RAV-4s, CR-Vs and Rogues in NA than the entire production capacity at Hyundai's Alabama plant.
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