Thought about selling mine for an automatic Rubicon but I'm pretty invested in my sport, so I'll probably re-gear it and hang on to it for a few more years.
Overall, I've loved the ownership experience and would do it again without second thought.
At the same time, with the PHEV and the diesel Wrangler coming, do I really want to commit to my 3.6? That I cannot say.
As for the transmission, I'm hearing some reports that people putting big tires on and not upgrading the gearing is leading to exploding trannies. No bueno. It shifts well enough, but can difficult to finesse whilst rock crawling.
| 2017 Elantra | 2018 JLU Sport | 2013 C-Max Energi | 2001 BMW 740 iL | 1974 SuperBeetle | 1962 Ford Unibody | The poster formerly known as 200HP4dr
What the Wrangler does have is gobs and gobs of soul. Driving across the city is great. The 2.0 with 8AT is pleasantly quick--point and shoot at around town speeds. The sight lines are great. The top goes down making a real four seat convertible and the sunrider feature allows you to open the front of the roof in the same amount of time as my old Miata. That sunrider also opens the sky not just above the driver like a regular sunroof but peels it back so the second row gets the sky too. I think the seats are comfy.
My advice is to do what I did and go rent a JL to see if she can deal with it for a day or two. I have been "considering" a Wrangler every time I bought a car over the last 15 years. A day driving a nearly new one from the airport convinced me that I should just buy (lease) one and get it out of my system. If you have more questions, I'm happy to answer.
edit - the Rubi is also geared to 4.10s I believe, whereas the Sport is a 3.45... maybe someone with a Sport might have to regear to bump up to 33s?
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Thanks for the info.
The VW is in the body shop right now for a deer hit. Tried to rent a Wrangler and they are all out.
We'll get one at some point for a couple days.
She's a former Wrangler owner. She bought a YJ when she graduated college and loved it. She's not a dash stroker at all. She did 10'years in a 2004 Forester before the VW. She bought the VW because it was the only manual awd wagon, and it reminded her of the GTI 16V she had before the Wrangler.
I think she will love the Wrangler. Shes frugal though, I'm not sure she'll cough up $35-$40k for a new one.
I'm seeing lots of really nice, super low mile JKUs in the mid to high $20ks now.
I'm about 5 months into my Sahara lease. 0 issues so far and I'm averaging around 22mpg in the city. This compares to about 20mpg in the 2017 Tacoma V6 I had before doing the same driving. The Wrangler interior, to me, is way nicer, seats are more comfortable and the drivetrain in the Wrangler is in a different league compared to the Tacoma. Tacoma was smoother though and more relaxing to drive.
If I could do it again, I think I would go for either the Sport or Rubicon and I would definitely get the power top this time. It's expensive but I think for me it would be worth it since our weather changes so much here in the summer.
I agree that the interior is perfectly acceptable and an outrageous improvement over any prior generation. I also agree that both the electronics incorporated in the center screen and the DIC are nicely configurable and excellent. However, I stand by my comment that the interior would not get a pass in anything else, and certainly nothing in the Rubicon price range. For example, I'm coming from a GM product and the tactile feel of the knobs and switches is a step down. Obviously it does not upset me that much and I really like the whole package.
On pricing, I had previously crossed the JL off my list of potential new cars for that reason. If leasing works for you, some of the Wrangler models have unusually high residual values that make them great leases. The Sahara and Rubicon just lease OK but the Sport S has a much higher residual (low 70s). On top of that, certain special editions have even higher residuals. Both the Black and Tan and the Altitude editions currently have a 77% three residual in the southeast (you can get this info from the Edmunds forums). I also told myself that it was a hedge against FCA reliability.
Edit: Just saw the message above and modify my statement to read "the interior would not get a pass in anything else (not wearing a Tacoma or 4Runner badge)"
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not much to add except that the dealer I where I tried to buy one of their 2018 JLU sport S models a couple months ago still has multiple(!). I can't believe they're not willing to deal. I'd be in an awesome wrangler instead of my dumb german coupe. It's been on the lot 378 days (or more).
... I'd still totally pull the trigger if they met my price, which was basically their advertised price minus the $2300 in dealer add-ons.
There are only 2 other vehicles that my son has pointed out on the street that he likes besides Miatas, it's Minis and Jeeps.
My old Toyota Club buddies will give me nonstop grief, but I'd love to have a Wrangler someday. But with a lightly optioned 2-door Willys getting up to $40k... maybe a lease.