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    1. Member HI SPEED's Avatar
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      01-17-2019 10:08 PM #1
      Casually browsing around autotrader looking at BMW f10 550i. Older ones are now 15-25k cars all day in pristine shape with low miles

      https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...&firstRecord=0

      As usual with most BMWs as time went by I really started to like the looks of these more, and more. Especially in 550i M sport trim, they are extremely handsome cars. In a departure from most other modern BMWs there isn't anything strange, or overwrought about the design. It is just a straightforward, buttoned up, teutonic executive sedan with a damn twin turbo v8 hiding under the hood.

      I have very fond memories of driving a rented diesel through the mountains of Austria, and Bavaria a few years back.

      When you take into account the performance of these cars (500 hp with a tune), the well appointed interior, and the extreme value that they present at their current depreciation it paints a compelling argument. You can even find the very rare one in manual transmission.

      While any modern BMW is going to be high maintenance, from what I have read these guys are relatively reliable.

      Even the CPOs are still amazing deals right now







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      01-17-2019 10:26 PM #2
      With the I6, I can't imagine these being bad. At least not anywhere near as bad as the prior two generations. V8, on the other hand... No. I haven't heard good things.

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      01-17-2019 10:33 PM #3
      Nothing productive to add here, other than I'm looking for a total unicorn-spec 550i right now. Manual, lighting package, an exterior that isn't black and an interior that isn't black, grey or beige.

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      01-17-2019 10:45 PM #4
      I won’t ever need to revisit this car. It was a disappointment to me after owning a E60. They had their fair share of electrical issues as well.

      Quote Originally Posted by bessvybz View Post
      Nothing productive to add here, other than I'm looking for a total unicorn-spec 550i right now. Manual, lighting package, an exterior that isn't black and an interior that isn't black, grey or beige.
      The manual isn’t very enjoyable imo. Saw one on the lot years ago and had to drive it. Meh.
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      01-17-2019 10:47 PM #5
      Not a fan. If I were to get an old 5 I'd roll the dice on an E60 535i. Hundreds of lbs lighter, better looking IMO... I'd just get a Chinese Android IDrive update. If not that then an F30. These are just so bland

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      01-17-2019 10:59 PM #6
      Buddy who is a GM at an indie BMW shop says the early F10 550’s are a total, utter nightmare.

      I wouldn’t.

    8. 01-17-2019 11:24 PM #7
      I considered the N20 variants and was scared away, I'm not sure if the 550 is any better but I'd be hesitant. It's all very sketch.

      But yes great cars, too bad they don't come with a Lexus V6 or V8 instead.

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      01-17-2019 11:31 PM #8
      I still love the way these look, but I was totally let down by how they drive. Not for me. Too sanitized, numb, and boring.
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    10. 01-17-2019 11:44 PM #9
      These things felt like a 7series nano which is what theyre based on.

      I could feel the weight in the corners, and steering is pretty numb. Great highway cruiser but only looks the part of a sports sedan with the m-package.

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      01-17-2019 11:46 PM #10
      The N55 is a reliable steed, people just don’t like that you can’t tune the bejeezus out of it like you could the N54.

      The N20-powered 528i is a bit underperforming in the acceleration department but returns decent mileage for what it is. The earlier ones had some timing issues but later ones are better sorted.

      The N62 in the 550i is a bad idea. Lots of issues that make the earlier V8’s seem like a cakewalk.

      The N55 535i suffered the stigma of the earlier N54 E60’s, but IMO are the Goldilocks of the F10. I took a road trip in an F10 535i a few years ago and it was a great travel companion. One of those with the 8-speed is both fast and decently economical (mid-20s)

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      01-17-2019 11:46 PM #11
      I think it bears repeating... these do not drive like what BMW should drive. F10 and F30 BMW were/are made to be like German Lexus but without the reliability. Numb steering, lazy chassis, and in the case of F10, lots of dead weight due to the platform being shared by the larger 7 series.

      F30 was somewhat redeemed during LCI when BMW put in a new steering rack and re-calibrated the chassis. But F10 kind of muddled on as is until G30 came out.

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      01-18-2019 12:00 AM #12
      In 2015 I met a guy who was dating a cousin of a cousin, and he moved out of his single bedroom apartment to a two bedroom with a roommate so he could afford to lease a new 535i. I've retained that fact and it's the only thing I recall about these cars.
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      01-18-2019 12:33 AM #13
      Early 550s are extremely unreliable. The later ones with the TU motor are much better.

      I agree that the 535i is the sweet spot. With the right options it drives well enough.
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      01-18-2019 08:12 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by bzcat View Post
      I think it bears repeating... these do not drive like what BMW should drive. F10 and F30 BMW were/are made to be like German Lexus but without the reliability. Numb steering, lazy chassis, and in the case of F10, lots of dead weight due to the platform being shared by the larger 7 series.

      F30 was somewhat redeemed during LCI when BMW put in a new steering rack and re-calibrated the chassis. But F10 kind of muddled on as is until G30 came out.
      I think the 5 has always shared a platform with the 7. Only exception may be the E60, which seemed to weigh and drive like a LWB E90.

      I'd rather get an F01 than an F10. If you're gonna get something that drives and weighs like a 7 series you might as well get a 7 series.

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      01-18-2019 11:03 AM #15
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      01-18-2019 11:10 AM #16
      I've also been eyeballing the 550, and I find it to be much nicer looking than the E60. And that twin turbo V8? Yes Please.

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      01-18-2019 11:12 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by DonPatrizio View Post
      In 2015 I met a guy who was dating a cousin of a cousin, and he moved out of his single bedroom apartment to a two bedroom with a roommate so he could afford to lease a new 535i. I've retained that fact and it's the only thing I recall about these cars.


      A cousin of his cousin, or your cousin?
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      01-18-2019 11:22 AM #18
      Cheapest Tesla Model S in the US is $27k.

      I wouldn’t bother with this.

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      01-18-2019 12:03 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by CTK View Post
      I think the 5 has always shared a platform with the 7. Only exception may be the E60, which seemed to weigh and drive like a LWB E90.

      I'd rather get an F01 than an F10. If you're gonna get something that drives and weighs like a 7 series you might as well get a 7 series.
      They didn't start sharing structural parts and such until the F10/F01.
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      01-18-2019 01:07 PM #20
      I borrowed a friend's 535 a few months back and I was shocked at how much of a boat it was. I remember being pleasantly surprised with how well a 750 drove a few years ago, so maybe it was just a matter of expectations, but I couldn't wait to give my friend his 535 back, one of the most disappointing cars I've ever driven
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      01-18-2019 01:18 PM #21
      I've driven 6-version (335?) and liked it for what it was, a punchy feeling big luxury barge. I can see why the general TCL consensus is BMW lost the plot with the F10.

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      01-18-2019 01:23 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by NoXenons View Post
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      Way better looking though. This is one of the best looking BMWs since the E38 7-Series.

      Didn't the early x-drive versions of this car have hydraulic power steering? Is there steering feel on those models?

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      01-18-2019 01:34 PM #23
      My dad has a 535d F10. It's a comfy barge that's still pretty fun to drive. I borrowed it to drive to Columbus once; comfy the whole way, and still pretty fun on the country back roads outside the city once I got there. Has room for 4 average-sized adults without being at all cramped, and has classy styling that leaves a decent impression with most people. With the 50i motor I'd imagine it'd be even more fun. As far as reliability, his is a '15 with ~40k on it; it hasn't needed any warranty work but I can't speak to long term.

      It's easy to do, but I think people get a little too caught up in would-coulda-shoulda to realize that they're decent cars in their own right.

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      01-18-2019 01:35 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by mrothwell View Post
      Didn't the early x-drive versions of this car have hydraulic power steering? Is there steering feel on those models?
      Yes and no, respectively. You might think it's electric until you hit positive lock, not at all like an E60 or E39.

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      01-18-2019 02:14 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by ghost03 View Post
      Yes and no, respectively. You might think it's electric until you hit positive lock, not at all like an E60 or E39.
      That's so sad.

      It looks like the M5 got hydraulic steering too, but the internet says it also has no steering feel either.

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