I'm a big fan of the 120/150 and 100/200 series Toyota/Lexus SUVs, but go in knowing the infotainment system will not be cutting edge, the fuel economy is abysmal, and they drive like trucks (you may be used to this with the Jeep). If you're ok with that, then there is nothing not to love.
I absolutely LOVE my GX but it's a truck chassis and gets mid teen fuel economy at best. It's also not very large inside, effectively a 4runner with a slightly taller roof (same chassis, different body) so it's not really a 7 seat SUV as advertised unless 5 of those passengers are under age 12 and not in car seats.
If you want more room get the LX, at the expense of a couple less empeegees. And 50% more money.
Well kinda switched it up a bit. Having put more thought into it, it seems the prefect car for me is WK2 JGC Overland or Summit. I prefer the Overland as it has a few "offroad" options you do not get on the Summit. The LX is just too big. I live basically in downtown Chicago and do not want to have the hassle of parking it on the street for half the year. The GX seems to be a great option, but my goodness is it ugly. And I still dont think I would get all of what I would want in it.
Anyone here have a higher mile 5.7 Hemi they can speak on? I hear they are really robust motors, and the 8 speed seemingly a great transmission. Any insight would be appreciated
Wish me luck going to a suburban domestic dealer, as it has been a long time since I bought a car from someone who isnt named Smooremin
I also went to AH Jeep, and it was Bro-central and sucked donkey balls.
Chris at Wickstrom if he's still there
They have two that are in the budget, but both have issues. One is right on in price, but has been in an accident and doesnt have that good of a service history (according to carfax) the other is a beige interior. I will NOT do beige. I will not buy a car solely because of that.
I will most definitely keep him in mind if they get something else
(do they have a customer referral program? If so, and I make a purchase, I will make sure you get what you are owed )
My 2011 Durango Hemi has 93k on it. Try to listen to it on cold start-up to see if it has an exhaust manifold leak. Mine has one, and from a read through the forums, it's not unusual for Hemis to develop the leak.
My radiator failed around 70k, also a relatively common problem. Water pumps aren't the most robust - my sister's '12 Durango lost its water pump around 40k.
Spark plug replacements - 2 per cylinder - are called for every 36k. The transfer case used to call for a special $$$$ OEM fluid, but they degraded that spec nowadays to regular transmission fluid. I had a non-start issue with the integrated power module, but a very well-publicized recall took care of that.
I can't speak to the durability of the ZF 8speed, as I have the ancient 5 speed. I had two driveshafts go out of balance (likely a support bearing, but they replaced the whole thing twice under warranty), getting about 30k out of each. The 8spd driveshaft doesn't do that, from what I've been told. I changed transmission fluid every 40k in mine; the second time, they found that the transmission pan was rusting from the inside. Nice.
It looks like A LOT of troubles are avoided if you skip the GC's air suspension. I would also get a 2016 or newer, just to avoid the horrible (and literally deadly) shifter in the 2014-2015 models.
I'm pretty much mentally done with mine. It's served its purpose - hauling my Airstream around, accounting for about 30% of its miles since new (I was often borrowing it from CR's test fleet, before I bought it for my own.) But now the bugs - that manifold leak, a heated seat module/some elements in the driver's seat don't work - are starting to wear me down. All of that said, it's been cheap enough to fix (I let the dealer do the work) and I might run it another year or so until I can sample all of the potential replacements.
EDIT: I should say this - for the life that my Durango has led (13k of fleet use and testing, then about 30k worth of towing a 5200 lb trailer), it's still pretty solid. Not too many squeaks and rattles, the hydraulic steering still feels taut, it's still quiet and strong. Despite the glitches, the engine doesn't regularly burn oil (a bit when towing) and the transmission shifts as smoothly as it did when new. Most of the gadgets - power lift gate, forward collision warning, blind spot detection, adaptive cruise - still work too.
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I drove it. I really like it. Now I need to find one. It was interesting to be on the other side of the desk for a change and really puts into persepectinve how well I/we run our store. Its much, much different out there. I also was able to email the GSM to let him know I am one too and didnt want to mess around.
They claim the car I drove today is going to auction soon, maybe I will see what I can get it for.....
The WK2 JGC is a good choice, just don't get an '11 or '12.
I put 60k on a '11 JGC, I got rid of it in 2015 because of repeated electrical issues.
That is the TPIM issue that only really affected the first year cars and it really sucks that I ended up with one of the few that had it.
Get the V8 and tow package.
It had the blend door fail in the AC system, and the leather of the driver seat had a hole in it from my average ass.