Lol at the ‘new’ tech panic. I rented a Kia in Europe in 2010 with start/stop.
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At least VW has programmed it to shut off the engine too quickly, which means even just stopping for half a second to change direction when parking maneuvering it'll shut off the engine.
But the question could also be, who else hates cars idling poisonous gases into the air when they don't need to? I think it's only a good thing that the engine shuts off while the car isn't moving.
I'm gonna have to disagree with most people here. It is actually proven to save quite a bit of gas over the lifetime of the car, and if every car had it, it would be in the millions of gallons of fuel saved per year in the US alone (I remember reading thay somewhere, no source to provide) but for the consumer, no real benefit will be noticed due to starters and fuel system components wearing out prematurely. So you're trading burning fuel over a mechanical part that can be recycled, which makes sense, really. It's definitely less pollution.
I personally wouldn't want it in my manual car, but an automatic? Bring it on. It's really not an inconvenience at all, and it makes the most sense at a train crossing and long traffic lights. Stop and go traffic, much less and I would turn it off during that time. But think of the waste of fuel of your car just idling, generating power for absolutely nothing. Gas-powered commuters make absolutely no sense in traffic-dense areas. This is where electric cars are really gonna shine. In the mean time, stop all the idling engines.
I don't feel like it's a gimmick, much less of one than lane departure warning, or blind spot monitoring, which should be banned outright.
Any car which holds together for a whole race is too heavy.
I need to add the plug in the harness on my F150.
The salesman said that just having a plug in the tow harness disables stop/start so you don't have to keep hitting the disable button every time you start.
I do not believe it saves anywhere near enough fuel to offset added wear on items.
And I have yet to drive a vehicle with start/stop that is imperceptible.
I have zero problems with it. It's actually nice to comes to a stop at a light and the vibration and noise stop, and the HVAC drop down to a quieter level. It's a little bit of tranquility for me that I rather enjoy these days. Being in vehicles that come to a rattly idle (anything with a 4 cylinder) is actually annoying these days. YMMV. Also, until we go full electric you'd better get used to it, or enjoy wearing the button out that turns the system off
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I believe the start/stop system only works seamlessly on hybrids. On the 2001 Insight I had with a manual, it was weird at first. You would think "crap it stalled " and be sitting in silence. Then as soon as you had the clutch down and selected either 1st or reverse, it was instantly running again.
It took a few days to get used to it, and it really made a big difference in MPG if you were in the city. But when I was getting 70-80 MPG ANYTHING makes a difference. The only annoyance is the A/C and fan would also stop with the engine, but you could override that by selecting AUTO and it disabled the AUTO STOP system. One of the more fun parts was being able to get it to shut down the engine approaching a red light at 35-40 and coasting as long as you could (with no traffic) and watch the average MPG climb
On my sister in laws 08 Prius, it's pretty seamless as well and does not have the issue with the A/C stopping with the engine. Toyota thought enough to add an electric motor to part of the A/C compressor so you can sit in the cool without the engine running.
Start/stop however does not make ANY sense on my dad's Focus RS. It's relatively smooth on shut down, but the engine does not really like the restarts. Luckily it's easily disabled with a button and the status seems to persist after you've turned the car off.
2) If you want to blame someone, blame Europe, not the US EPA. Start stop came about because 25% of the European test cycle is idling (versus 11% for the EPA drive cycle).
I've never had a car with a start-stop system but when I'm stuck at a railroad crossing and a freight train is coming by, that's when I shut my engine off.
When I am walking around on the streets though, I've come across a lot of cars stuck at intersection who I've heard start their engines when the light turns green.
I find it to be invasive, in the Audi it can be turned off.
My wife doesn't seem to be bothered by it, and she drives it more than me.
When I drive it I either press the button to turn it off, or if I'm in Dynamic and Sport it is off by default.
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If you have a 5 cylinder, you don't need a stereo.
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My F150 has the "feature" and there is a program that you can download called Forscan that allows you to disable it. I took care of that last year and haven't thought about the setting for quite a while.
i don't mind it. i don't find the start/stop in my golf r to be obtrusive. also, i live in a city where the conditions for stop/start are pretty ideal: there isn't a lot of stop-and-go traffic, but there are a ton of 8-way intersections where one's car just idles for several minutes at a time. if i do hit stop-and-go traffic, i just turn the start/stop feature off.
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