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      07-12-2019 12:36 PM #576
      Quote Originally Posted by The_Real_Stack View Post
      If you're accusing me (and the GOP) of not having ideological purity tests, yes, that's correct. And if you're accusing me of understanding that in order to win the things I find important, I understand "my team" needs to win to put people in power to advance that agenda, again, correct. I don't care about "winning victories". I care about winning what I find to be important, and I know that has to be done so we can win what I find to be important. If that means I have to support someone who has a few beliefs I don't necessarily agree with (anti-abortion, anti gay marriage) then yeah, so be it. I don't agree with ANYONE 100% on anything including my wife, doesn't mean I won't vote for them because we agree more than we disagree.
      I'm not accusing you of anything. I'm responding to what you admitted to doing. Now you're backtracking into something more reasonable, which pretty much describes the vast majority of voters. You were just so eager to make this a left vs. right thing that you made a stupid statement.
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      07-12-2019 12:52 PM #577
      Quote Originally Posted by westsideseal View Post
      I'm not accusing you of anything. I'm responding to what you admitted to doing. Now you're backtracking into something more reasonable, which pretty much describes the vast majority of voters. You were just so eager to make this a left vs. right thing that you made a stupid statement.
      But my point is the left CAN'T do that these days. Like I said, look at the black women vs. white women thing, or the reproductive rights versus trans women thing. There's so much fighting with each other over who is a bigger victim and whose problems are most important and you only have 32% victim and I have 45% victim so I get to speak and you need to STFU and listen to me it's absurd.
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      07-12-2019 01:22 PM #578
      Quote Originally Posted by The_Real_Stack View Post
      But my point is the left CAN'T do that these days. Like I said, look at the black women vs. white women thing, or the reproductive rights versus trans women thing. There's so much fighting with each other over who is a bigger victim and whose problems are most important and you only have 32% victim and I have 45% victim so I get to speak and you need to STFU and listen to me it's absurd.
      You need to stop combining your imagination and Twitter to paint a picture of about half of the country. The reality of a two party system is that there is (and should) be a significant amount of disagreement within the party, then the party decides who to send to a general election, then the party by and large votes for their candidate because they more closely represent their views than the other guy. You imagining that internal disagreement is somehow unusual while everyone falling in line and "STFU so we can win and then we'll figure it out in the victory circle" is a preferable way is nonsense. You've got GOP people calling each other RINOs and cuckservatives because they aren't as enthusiastic about certain politicians/positions as they should be. That people in the GOP are more willing to shut up and fall in line behind someone because they think criticizing them makes them look weak to "the enemy" is not something for you to brag about. It's a defect, not a strength.

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      07-12-2019 01:37 PM #579
      Quote Originally Posted by The_Real_Stack View Post
      But my point is the left CAN'T do that these days. Like I said, look at the black women vs. white women thing, or the reproductive rights versus trans women thing. There's so much fighting with each other over who is a bigger victim and whose problems are most important and you only have 32% victim and I have 45% victim so I get to speak and you need to STFU and listen to me it's absurd.
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      07-12-2019 01:45 PM #580
      Quote Originally Posted by The_Real_Stack;113524107[B
      ]If you're accusing me (and the GOP) of not having ideological purity tests, yes, that's correct.[/B] And if you're accusing me of understanding that in order to win the things I find important, I understand "my team" needs to win to put people in power to advance that agenda, again, correct. I don't care about "winning victories". I care about winning what I find to be important, and I know that has to be done so we can win what I find to be important. If that means I have to support someone who has a few beliefs I don't necessarily agree with (anti-abortion, anti gay marriage) then yeah, so be it. I don't agree with ANYONE 100% on anything including my wife, doesn't mean I won't vote for them because we agree more than we disagree.
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      07-12-2019 04:59 PM #581
      Quote Originally Posted by GreenandChrome View Post
      facts don't matter. only feelings. feelings are the only thing that's real.
      Facts and feelings aren't mutually exclusive. Anyone who claims to make significant decisions, especially ones that impact large populations of people, and doesn't consider their own feelings and the feelings of other is either a liar or a sociopath.

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