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    1. Member J.Yossarian's Avatar
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      11-28-2018 12:29 AM #101
      Quote Originally Posted by Ark6 View Post
      No one buys a sedan with a manual. Most manuals are hatches
      And what's the word for Skyactiv X? I'm in the market late next year and I'm interested if the specs are right.
      Link from a post above says 178hp/164tq for the X, but I’ve not seen numbers for any of the engines anywhere else, so I’m not sure if that can be trusted. If it improves on the fuel economy for non-X engines by 20-30 percent, I’ll be very impressed. I easily averaged 32-33 MPG with mostly city driving in my 2.5/6-speed manual hatch, so that might push it closer to 40.

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      11-28-2018 12:39 AM #102
      Quote Originally Posted by J.Yossarian View Post
      Link from a post above says 178hp/164tq for the X, but I’ve not seen numbers for any of the engines anywhere else, so I’m not sure if that can be trusted. If it improves on the fuel economy for non-X engines by 20-30 percent, I’ll be very impressed. I easily averaged 32-33 MPG with mostly city driving in my 2.5/6-speed manual hatch, so that might push it closer to 40.
      I get about that with my 2.0 auto. I'm curious to see how much it's improved.
      Then again I miss having a Honda and that CTR is looking good lol

    4. 11-28-2018 04:34 AM #103
      Those Skyactive-X HP numbers have been floating online for a while now

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      11-28-2018 05:31 AM #104
      Quote Originally Posted by Zillon View Post
      Manual in the sedan is dead. Just confirmed it.
      Well that's a huge let down. Like others said, I hope Mazda Canada keeps more manual trims.

      I'm really liking the sedan but not so much the C pillar of the hatch.

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      11-28-2018 07:19 AM #105
      I'm not feeling it

      Sedan is a bit boring
      Hatch C pillar looks worse every time I see it
      Skyactiv-X sounds a hair underpowered especially considering Mazda HP is less than, for example, Honda HP
      Torsion beam

      Too bad. Only Mazdas on my radar are the Miata and 626 Turbo

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      11-28-2018 07:35 AM #106
      Quote Originally Posted by proximal View Post
      That picture is awkward because you can't see that the rearmost part of the roofline is blacked out. It's more apparent in another color or different lighting, and makes the C-pillar look not as thick.

      It's not terrible, but as someone with a new driver on the cusp of his license, that C-pillar must cause a massive blindspot (these are things I look at more with a new driver than with just myself.)

      I happen to think the current 3 is one of the best looking hatchbacks on the market.

      Last edited by Sporin; 11-28-2018 at 07:53 AM.

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      11-28-2018 08:35 AM #107
      I can't wait to head down to the local Mazda dealer and stroke the dashboard. I love everything about the new interior.

      It's a bummer that AWD won't be offered with manual. I'll still consider an AWD hatch as my next vehicle. I've been dying to have a new vehicle option that isn't a Subaru.
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      11-28-2018 08:42 AM #108
      Quote Originally Posted by Hostile View Post
      Nope, still looks terrible.
      I don't think the current gen looks terrible. But the new-gen hatch - it's not an improvement in my eyes. I guess I'll reserve judgement until I can see it "live', but based on the pictures it's a "no" from me.
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      11-28-2018 09:00 AM #109
      That rear hatch is what you guys get for constantly complaining about a sloping hatch cutting into cargo capacity. They just decided to stretch it out.
      The taxes...the finger thing means the taxes.

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      11-28-2018 09:09 AM #110
      Quote Originally Posted by VarianceVQ View Post
      That rear hatch is what you guys get for constantly complaining about a sloping hatch cutting into cargo capacity. They just decided to stretch it out.
      Length and width are reportedly nearly unchanged. Height has been decreased by 1".

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      11-28-2018 09:34 AM #111
      That is, uh. Not very pretty.
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    13. 11-28-2018 09:41 AM #112
      I find most new cars photograph pretty poorly. I will hold my judgement on the hatch until later, however the sedan is sexy. I actually think the 3 hatch looks great except for that piller.. that rear end is so nice.

      I wonder what this will mean for the CX3 - I read online it will probably be built on the Mazda 3 platform instead of the 2.. and with AWD available, it looks like it will be even easier for them to make CX3's out of it. Either way.. I'm heading straight to the dealer after the CX3 goes on sale and buying my dream car. My fiance has a touring and I love that thing.. I just wish it was a little bigger.

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      11-28-2018 09:42 AM #113
      Quote Originally Posted by Zillon View Post
      We traditionally have a tough time moving Sport and Touring manual 3s - most manuals we sell are Grand Touring trim cars.
      What are the chances that's because of the engine itself. You can't get the 2.5 in the Sport or Touring, right?

      Gonna reserve judgment for when I can see this in the flesh. I think it'll look better with a blacked out roof, bigger wheels, and lowered a lot. Closer to the Kai concept.

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      11-28-2018 09:57 AM #114
      Quote Originally Posted by N2OInferno View Post
      What are the chances that's because of the engine itself. You can't get the 2.5 in the Sport or Touring, right?

      Gonna reserve judgment for when I can see this in the flesh. I think it'll look better with a blacked out roof, bigger wheels, and lowered a lot. Closer to the Kai concept.
      2.5 has been available in the Touring since 2014, at least in the US.

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      11-28-2018 10:19 AM #115
      Quote Originally Posted by Zillon View Post
      2.5 has been available in the Touring since 2014, at least in the US.
      Thought it was GT only for some reason.

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      11-28-2018 10:59 AM #116
      It might have to do with other diluted content in the lower trims, like I’m thinking about how you can’t get the full LED lighting or foglamps except in GT or above trim. Also that optioning some features in a lower trim doesn’t really save you much money as they’re concerned as opposed to it being standard on a higher trim.

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      11-28-2018 11:07 AM #117
      Quote Originally Posted by VarianceVQ View Post
      That rear hatch is what you guys get for constantly complaining about a sloping hatch cutting into cargo capacity. They just decided to stretch it out.
      I don't think it's actually stretched out, they just trolled us by making the rear windows smaller.

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      11-28-2018 11:09 AM #118
      Quote Originally Posted by Zunflower View Post
      It might have to do with other diluted content in the lower trims, like I’m thinking about how you can’t get the full LED lighting or foglamps except in GT or above trim. Also that optioning some features in a lower trim doesn’t really save you much money as they’re concerned as opposed to it being standard on a higher trim.
      LED headlights and taillights will be standard on all trims for the 2019 3.

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      11-28-2018 11:12 AM #119
      Quote Originally Posted by Zillon View Post
      Length and width are reportedly nearly unchanged. Height has been decreased by 1".
      Is the wheelbase longer then? The car looks longer at a glance. The interior looks bigger too somehow, but I hope I'm :wrong: since we don't want a bigger car.

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      11-28-2018 11:35 AM #120
      Quote Originally Posted by CTK View Post
      Torsion beam
      Torsion beams are back in fashion it seems. For the entry level models at least.

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      11-28-2018 11:43 AM #121
      Quote Originally Posted by troyguitar View Post
      Is the wheelbase longer then? The car looks longer at a glance. The interior looks bigger too somehow, but I hope I'm :wrong: since we don't want a bigger car.
      Sedan is 3" longer, same width, 0.7" lower in height.

      Hatch is unchanged in length and width, 1" lower in height.

      Wheelbase is reported to be 1" longer on both cars.

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      11-28-2018 11:44 AM #122
      Quote Originally Posted by Hajduk View Post
      Torsion beams are back in fashion it seems. For the entry level models at least.
      Toyota went with a multilink on the Corolla and Mazda went with a trailing arm/torsion beam setup.

      Lets see how this plays out.


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      11-28-2018 11:46 AM #123
      I wouldn't necessarily knock the torsion beam until I've had a chance to drive it.
      Apparently it wasn't a cost decision but to cut down on NVH, which would be a change most welcome.

      I've had marked results with $60 of material and 4 hours of my time, something that should cost much less on a mass production level and at the factory before they start putting things together. The Mazda 3 already has a lot of the tech, the quality interior material, now let's try making it a little more quiet than a tin can in a wind tunnel.

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      11-28-2018 11:50 AM #124
      Quote Originally Posted by Zillon View Post
      Toyota went with a multilink on the Corolla and Mazda went with a trailing arm/torsion beam setup.

      Lets see how this plays out.
      Some other new cars with torsion beams (in the base model at least):

      -Jetta
      -Merc A-Class
      -Ford Focus

      Toyota seems to be an exception.

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      11-28-2018 12:42 PM #125
      Quote Originally Posted by Zillon View Post
      Sedan is 3" longer, same width, 0.7" lower in height.

      Hatch is unchanged in length and width, 1" lower in height.

      Wheelbase is reported to be 1" longer on both cars.
      That's not terrible. Maybe a 2023 iSkyX-Activ-eCharged sedan in red or blue with white interior will be next for us. I expect our 2014 to do 200k if its first 100k was any indication. The car pretty much looks and feels like new, no reason to replace it - especially since it is nearly worthless. Trade value is probably $5k.

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