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      04-06-2018 12:11 PM #1


      Hopefully not a repost.

      A luxury electric Mercedes saloon rivalling the upcoming zero-emissions Jaguar XJ and next-generation electric Audi A8 will launch from 2020, according to large-cars project boss Michael Kelz.

      Unlike Jaguar and Audi, it will not be a variant of an existing member of the line-up – in this case, the S-Class – and instead be a separate model.

      “We will have an electric vehicle at the level of the S-Class, no doubt, but it will not be the S-Class,” Kelz said.

      The luxury saloon will sit in the new EQ electric range alongside models already seen in concept form – the EQ A hatchback and EQ C SUV – as well as a lower-ranking electric saloon that's more comparable to the C-Class.

      The model will use a new modular architecture called MEA. Mercedes trademarked a number of names last year under the EQ brand, including EQ S, which will be the model name for the S-Class’s electric counterpart. Kelz said: “It will be a luxury, electric car, a top-of-the-line car.”

      Referring to how the design of saloon cars, in particular, will change for electric powertrains, Kelz said “short overhangs front and rear thanks to the packaging under the floor and huge wheelbases”make it more difficult to convert the platforms of low-bodied combustion-engined vehicles to accommodate electric powertrains.

      Kelz said he had already seen a concept of the zero-emissions large saloon and said such a car could roll out from 2020. The latest we will see it is 2022 and Mercedes has already confirmed that it intends to have 20 electrified models in its range by then.

      Although the S-Class’s platform, called MRA, cannot accommodate pure electric, it can allow for a plug-in hybrid. Talking about the new CLS, also MRA-based, Kelz said: “We have not planned to bring this car to market as a plug-in hybrid, but it would be possible. As soon as we see there is higher demand, we could go for a plug-in hybrid in the CLS.”

      Currently, the CLS is offered with a mild hybrid in the AMG CLS 53.
      https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...ic-saloon-2020
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    3. 04-06-2018 12:20 PM #2
      True Tesla competitor? So you're saying it will have subpar build quality and interior materials for the price?

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      04-06-2018 12:21 PM #3
      lol in no way will it be a Tesla competitor. This'll blow the Model S out of the ****ing water.
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      04-06-2018 12:24 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by enigma78 View Post
      True Tesla competitor? So you're saying it will have subpar build quality and interior materials for the price?
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      lol in no way will it be a Tesla competitor. This'll blow the Model S out of the ****ing water,.
      Got your attention though.
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      04-06-2018 12:26 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by Ryukein View Post
      lol in no way will it be a Tesla competitor. This'll blow the Model S out of the ****ing water,.
      It probably should for the $200,000+ price tag I'm going to go ahead and assume this car is going to have.
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      04-06-2018 12:28 PM #6
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      It probably should for the $200,000+ price tag I'm going to go ahead and assume this car is going to have.
      I don't think it will be that high, at least not the base one. I'd expect it to start in the low $100Ks, which is where its competitors probably will be, too.
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      04-06-2018 12:30 PM #7
      Oh, troll Title. Tesla's aren't about luxury...at all.
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      04-06-2018 12:36 PM #8
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      Oh, troll Title.
      Clickbait is mo' like it.
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      04-06-2018 12:50 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Uber Wagon View Post
      Clickbait is mo' like it.
      We are Pwned.

      Does MB really think luxury is what sells a Tesla though? I really hope not. They can't be that dense.
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      04-06-2018 12:54 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by TigerinColorado View Post
      We are Pwned.

      Does MB really think luxury is what sells a Tesla though? I really hope not. They can't be that dense.
      Mercedes hasn't said anything about Tesla, and neither did the Autocar article... That was all Uber Wagon.
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      04-06-2018 12:55 PM #11
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      They can't be that dense.
      Not to derail the thread, but MB can be pretty dense...

      Daimler AG executives said Tuesday that diesel power for Mercedes cars is here to stay, even as electric cars and electrified mobility spreads throughout its passenger and commercial vehicles, and even its global partnerships.


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      04-06-2018 01:02 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Ryukein View Post
      Mercedes hasn't said anything about Tesla, and neither did the Autocar article... That was all Uber Wagon.
      Thanks f or the clarification. My mistake.

      Adding Tesla in thread title is a sure fire way to get clicks. We may need to change his username to...
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      04-06-2018 03:17 PM #13
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      We may need to change his username to...
      Masterclickbaiter?
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      04-06-2018 03:20 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by Ryukein View Post
      Mercedes hasn't said anything about Tesla, and neither did the Autocar article... That was all Uber Wagon.


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    16. 04-06-2018 07:11 PM #15
      HMMMM Merecedes is cooking with gas now ,,nahhhh I mean electric

      This sounds like an excellent idea as tesla interiors dont hold a candle to an s-class

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      04-06-2018 08:51 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Ryukein View Post
      I don't think it will be that high, at least not the base one. I'd expect it to start in the low $100Ks, which is where its competitors probably will be, too.
      But you can't find a new "normal" ICE S-class on a lot for under 100k now.
      What makes you think they can go full EV for just another 10-20k?

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      04-06-2018 09:39 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Uber Wagon View Post
      Not to derail the thread, but MB can be pretty dense...



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      Yeah? So?

      It should surprise no one that diesels are staying around for a while in large cars and trucks. Electric cars cannot do everything that fueled cars can and diesel is far better suited for large cars and trucks than for small ones.

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      04-06-2018 10:36 PM #18
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      07-31-2018 08:35 PM #21
      I get the feeling this will be more successful than BMW's clumsy electric start. Will this inspire others (Cadillac, Lincoln, Jaguar, Audi, Lexus, Infiniti, etc) to join the pure electric race or are they already in the process of designing their pure electrics now too?

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      07-31-2018 10:13 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by antilock View Post
      I get the feeling this will be more successful than BMW's clumsy electric start. Will this inspire others (Cadillac, Lincoln, Jaguar, Audi, Lexus, Infiniti, etc) to join the pure electric race or are they already in the process of designing their pure electrics now too?
      Several of the brands you listed will actually beat Mercedes to the market with a S-class size EV sedan. Jaguar and Audi for sure. Cadillac maybe. Lincoln probably not. Lexus not interested in anything EV. Infiniti has to actually make a sedan people care about.

    23. 07-31-2018 10:46 PM #23
      Came in mildly confused, as intended, I got got. That’s what the kids are saying these days.

      MB has to really deliver on the luxury aspect to one up Porsche. Non of that tacked on ridiculousness.

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      07-31-2018 10:48 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by Prancing Moose View Post
      Came in mildly confused, as intended, I got got. That’s what the kids are saying these days.

      MB has to really deliver on the luxury aspect to one up Porsche. Non of that tacked on ridiculousness.
      What about the current S-class suggests they wouldn’t?
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    25. 07-31-2018 11:04 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by TangoRed View Post
      What about the current S-class suggests they wouldn’t?
      I’m not impressed by the S class dash. It’s essentially two screens with a shroud. Let’s keep the cluster where it belongs and the infotainment a bit more shotgun approachable. With high priced EVs I find brands sticking to this gouging with electronics theme with which is not very driver friendly. Touchscreens in general are not.

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