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      08-10-2015 10:37 AM #151
      TDIs will be the 280 mm rotor.
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      08-10-2015 11:06 AM #152
      So basically GTI badge on my car will mean only sport suspension, bigger front stabilizer and 16th BBS alloy wheels. So less improvements from factory to be called as a GTI..

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      08-10-2015 10:47 PM #153
      Hmmmm I actually do not know about the european market GTI TDI. In the US it's simple, the 2.0s and TDIs have one variant of the wheel bearing housing assembly and caliper that go with the 280 mm rotor while the 1.8Ts and VR6s have the other variant with the 288 mm rotors that are upgradeable to 312 or 345 mm.

      Fortunately, the visual differences are obvious if you look at your front wheel bearing housing assemblies and calipers; for the 280 mm rotors, there are prongs on the wheel bearing housing assembly that are part of what holds the brake pads in. For the 288 mm rotors, there are no prongs and the caliper is a unit that is attached to the wheel bearing housing assembly:



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      02-20-2016 01:02 AM #154
      so with some really really extensive digging i've turned up that some Audi TT's were equipped with 239mm solid rotors. I confirmed the availability of parts by checking on the rock auto site. I know it isn't much of a change but it's something that can be done when overhauling the rears since the price is about the same.

      I'm trying out other combinations to see what else fits/ can be made to work with minimal extra parts or work.

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      02-29-2016 10:06 PM #155
      I know this thread has been dead for a while, but I just found a great deal on a front and rear set of 18z brake calipers from the Porsche Cayenne featuring the 6 and 4 piston calipers. I want to snap on the purchase, but I'm having trouble finding the mounting hardware to make it all work running the 350mm front rotors and 330mm rear rotors that I can source from R1.

      If anyone has any input and/or experience setting up these brakes on a 5x100 car that runs a similar brake setup please let me know how to continue the process forward.

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      03-11-2016 11:34 PM #156
      Quote Originally Posted by BeasTToftheEast View Post
      I know this thread has been dead for a while, but I just found a great deal on a front and rear set of 18z brake calipers from the Porsche Cayenne featuring the 6 and 4 piston calipers. I want to snap on the purchase, but I'm having trouble finding the mounting hardware to make it all work running the 350mm front rotors and 330mm rear rotors that I can source from R1.

      If anyone has any input and/or experience setting up these brakes on a 5x100 car that runs a similar brake setup please let me know how to continue the process forward.
      Epytec out of Germany and creation motorsports in the UK should have the brackets for the front, but you're on your own for the rears, needs to be custom and you'll need to figure out a parking brake solution.
      VAGBremtechnic out of the UK may be able to help you out with something custom as well. Also know as DaveB on the UKMKIV forums. A quick Google should set you straight.
      Last edited by GolfCL Smooth; 03-12-2016 at 10:13 AM.

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      03-12-2016 01:27 PM #157
      The only front bracket I have found has been for the 17Z calipers, but I'll check out the company you mentioned. In the event they don't make something I have a shop that will essentially be copying the ECS Tuning bracket used with their big brake kit for the front. For the rear aftermarket emergency brake setups aren't too pricey, the main thing is getting a bracket for the rear calipers.

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      02' Audi TT Quattro stroked to 2008cc with a PTE6266 Twinscroll
      03-12-2016 01:35 PM #158
      I just checked both websites and neither one carry an adapter for the 350mm rotor used in the 18Z caliper.

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      03-19-2016 02:56 AM #159
      hey fellas
      any advise will appreciate
      which one should i go for ???

      https://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen...ormance/ES411/

      or

      http://www.ngpracing.com/newstore/eu...-1.8t-vr6.html


      does any one have experience with ECS tuning rotors and Eurospec rotors ??

      Regards

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      03-21-2016 10:16 AM #160
      Quote Originally Posted by VRGLI11 View Post
      hey fellas
      any advise will appreciate
      which one should i go for ???

      https://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen...ormance/ES411/

      or

      http://www.ngpracing.com/newstore/eu...-1.8t-vr6.html


      does any one have experience with ECS tuning rotors and Eurospec rotors ??

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      03-22-2016 11:23 AM #161

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      10-24-2016 12:08 AM #162
      [/INDENT]13.15" (334mm x 32mm) OEM Front Brake Upgrades[INDENT]VW R32/Audi TT3.2 Brake upgrade $925+
      Comes with: 2 piece directional vaned Rotors,2 piston Calipers, pads and brake lines
      Requires: 18"+ wheels and Installation (some 17" wheels will clear)
      Purchase from: Autotech | Parts 4 VWs | Local Dealership Parts Counter

      anybody know which 17" rims will fit? I know ariettas will just wondering if audi S-Line A6 9 spoke rims will fit on R32 brakes before i buy..pretty sure they will but rather safe than sorry

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      01-14-2017 12:37 AM #163
      What model/market MkIV did the 10.1" front brakes come on? I need to downgrade my front brakes to fit ideally 13" or alternately 14" wheels for ice racing.

      Quote Originally Posted by eggroller View Post
      Please correct me if I am wrong. I will edit this as we go. They are classified by size sorted in an ascending order. All brakes pertain to the MK4 Platform (Golf 4/Jetta (Bora) 4/New Beetle) includes GLi/GTI 337/20th Anniversary Edition/25th Anniversary Edition/R32)

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      • The Front brakes are 256mm x 22mm (10.1" x .87") Vented Rotor w/1 piston calipers
      • The Rear brakes are 232mm x 9mm (9.1" x .35") Solid Rotor

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      Nevermind, I found it in ETKA. Looks like German market Mk4 Golf 1.4L had the 10.1" fronts. They used the same style as US market Mk4 Golf 2.0L 11" with integral sliders, but the only difference was a different part number bearing carrier. Rather than special-order those 1.4L bearing carriers and the corresponding 5-lug 10.1" rotors from overseas, I played around with part numbers some more and I think I can get 10.1" on my Mk4 1.8T in place of the 11.3" by using Mk3 2.0L 10.1 caliper brackets and simply turning down the 11.3 rotors. If not, using Mk3 2.0L 10.1 caliper brackets, calipers, and rotors (redrilled for 5-lug) ought to do the trick. 14" and 13" wheels with same 5x100 bolt pattern and 57.1 centerbore also seem to be available from US GM and Chrysler products, although I might have to ream out the bolt holes from 12mm to 14mm.
      Last edited by o2bad455; 01-14-2017 at 06:11 AM.

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      09-13-2017 02:14 PM #164
      so i'm doing a little crazy parts swapping to see what is compatible and gives different brake bias. As i outlined above you can pick up a 239mm solid rotor vs 232 w/ correct caliper carrier, it looks like the B5 57mm front caliper can be swapped over though youll be moving significant volume, the C5 a6 all road has a rear 43mm rear caliper that bolts up to the mk4 /audi 4motion/quattro caliper bracket, & it loks like there is a T4 with a usable 25.4mm master cylinder. I hope to be playing with and testing these discoveries later this year. I'm still trying to identify a 41mm caliper that is compatible vented rotors. I'll check back in with answesrs when i have some.

    17. 10-18-2017 03:31 PM #165
      Hello.I want an oem 256mm upgrade from 232mm.Can someone please tell me if oem 256mm brakes fits with 15" alloy(aluminium) wheels?

    18. 10-27-2017 01:16 PM #166
      I will answer myself.256 rear brakes will not fit 15" wheels

    19. 02-27-2018 07:10 PM #167
      Does anyone know if it's ok or there is any problem on switching a ABS module ref 1J0 614 117 A to C or B?

      And if i change a master pump that has no pressure sensors to one with 2 pressure sensors, what do i need to change more?
      ABS module?
      I have Leon Cupra R 323mm brake system and would complete the full instalation as i find that my braking system can't give enough power to the brakes.
      I have a TDI110 that originaly had 280mm discs.

    20. 05-13-2018 02:59 PM #168
      have: `03 golf gl 2.0, 16" wheels
      want: bigger brakes, better stopping power
      solution: upgrade to gti brake system
      source: wrecking yards
      questions:
      -what's involved with the upgrade?
      -what parts are needed from the gti?
      -are there other cars with the same brake system as the gti?

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      07-02-2018 03:39 PM #169
      Quote Originally Posted by eggroller View Post

      • Note: 20AE/337/GLI calipers are the same as 11.3" calipers, but are painted red.
      • The Front brakes are 312mm x 25mm (12.3" x .98") Vented Rotors w/1 piston calipers
      • The Rear brakes are 256mm x 22mm (10.1" x .87") Vented Rotors


      Does this mean the 2005 GLI front calipers are 11.3'' or 12.3''? I've bought caliper replacements from both Autozone and O'Reilly's using my cars's profile and the bolt locations on both don't line up.

    22. 01-03-2019 08:27 PM #170
      So if im reading this correctly, all i need to go from 288 to 312 is have a 337/20th/Gli caliper carrier and i can reuse my caliper(vr6)? Also for the rear upgrade from 232 to 280 blackforest industries sells a kit from eurospec here: https://store.blackforestindustries....k4reroupk.html. But $300 for what looks like a spacer? Seems like somebody could machine this for really cheap. Any clarification on this would me much appreciated.

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      01-09-2019 02:09 PM #171
      Quote Originally Posted by dey_one View Post
      Does this mean the 2005 GLI front calipers are 11.3'' or 12.3''? I've bought caliper replacements from both Autozone and O'Reilly's using my cars's profile and the bolt locations on both don't line up.
      GLI VR6 didn't get a brake upgrade. It was still 288mm front brakes
      GLI 1.8T got the brake upgrade.



      Quote Originally Posted by Low_Mk4 View Post
      So if im reading this correctly, all i need to go from 288 to 312 is have a 337/20th/Gli caliper carrier and i can reuse my caliper(vr6)? Also for the rear upgrade from 232 to 280 blackforest industries sells a kit from eurospec here: https://store.blackforestindustries....k4reroupk.html. But $300 for what looks like a spacer? Seems like somebody could machine this for really cheap. Any clarification on this would me much appreciated.
      312mm and 288mm brakes used the same caliper.

      If you can design the carrier and have it made cheaper, then have at it. I doubt a production run of 2 will be affordable at all.
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      01-28-2019 05:30 PM #172
      That $300 covers spacers and ROTORS. Rotors aren't super cheap.

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      07-09-2019 04:46 PM #173
      I’m replacing the rear brake pads and rotors on my Mk IV R32 for the first time. I’ve ordered the rotors and pads, but I wasn’t sure whether I needed wear sensors; the pads didn’t come with them. Do I need to order wear sensors, separately?

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