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    1. 10-18-2016 06:40 PM #1
      Fellow co-worker has a 2007 Toyota Camry with 100K+ miles. Per her report, she lent the car to a friend over the weekend, but received a call later that evening informing her the car started to buckle and eventually shut off after a left turn. Car was not being driven aggressively. Car towed to nearby mechanic, who alleged the engine had no oil on the dipstick and was "knocking really bad." Mechanic also said battery terminal was bad, which he replaced. After putting fresh oil in the car, he said the car continued to knock and kept dying out. Per the mechanic, car was being driven without oil for some time. Co-worker, who is diligent in this regard, routinely gets oil replaced, most recently 3-months ago at a lube shop. Car ran fine up till this event. Mechanic towed car to co-worker's house, stating the entire engine needs to be replaced, which will set her back approximately $5,000 - funds which she does not have, especially being a student.

      Any other explanations for what might be going on? Co-worker said car does start, per the mechanic, but does not accelerate, and eventually dies out. The knocking part sounds peculiar, cause a car without oil typically screeches with the metal-on-metal movement. Also, co-worker said no colored exhaust that would suggest oil being burned.

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      10-18-2016 06:44 PM #2
      Sounds like the engine was run low on oil.

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      10-18-2016 06:44 PM #3
      I run an auto repair shop. I see way too much of this. A car that had low oil (for whatever reason) can drive long enough to create an issue inside, but not spin bearings (which pretty much seizes most engines). They will knock badly even after putting oil back in. Metal noise? Maybe...but from the sounds of this something bad happened.


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      10-18-2016 06:45 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by GoHomePossum View Post
      Sounds like the engine was run low on oil.
      My words exactly, without being a yenta.


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      10-18-2016 06:50 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by nater View Post
      My words exactly, without being a yenta.


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    7. 10-18-2016 08:25 PM #6
      I think 2,000 sounds more realistic ,how much a is toyota mill for this at a salvage yard 800.00$

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      10-18-2016 09:08 PM #7
      These engines are known for burning oil. If the owner changes the oil on schedule but never checks it, it could easily have burned it all off.

      Toyota is actually re-ringing these engines for free if they burn more than 1 quart per 1K miles in a certified test. I imagine they won't change the whole engine if you failed to check the oil, though.

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      10-18-2016 09:16 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by rimtrim View Post
      These engines are known for burning oil. If the owner changes the oil on schedule but never checks it, it could easily have burned it all off.

      Toyota is actually re-ringing these engines for free if they burn more than 1 quart per 1K miles in a certified test. I imagine they won't change the whole engine if you failed to check the oil, though.

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      And they actually re-ring them with nothing else. No honing, etc. they slap new rings in and send you on your way. . It's true.


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      10-18-2016 09:52 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by nater View Post
      And they actually re-ring them with nothing else. No honing, etc. they slap new rings in and send you on your way. . It's true.
      That's probably not such a bad thing. The Toyota oil-burning problems seem to be caused by stuck oil control rings due to carbon buildup. Nothing is actually worn out or damaged. I've heard plenty of stories of the '98-02 Corolla/Prizm 1ZZ engines going from crop-duster status to no oil consumption at all, just from a basic ring job. Of course, that's not going to help the owner in the OP, if someone drove the car around with no oil in the engine...

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      10-18-2016 09:59 PM #10
      Sounds like someone never checked the engine oil level.

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    12. 10-18-2016 10:18 PM #11
      The end result being one less friend?

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    14. 10-19-2016 02:09 PM #13
      So presumably the engine is toast. Not sure if Toyota's have low oil warning, but one would expect that to, or at least a 'check engine' light, to come up. Besides motor being replaced, I assume there is no way to fix this.

    15. 10-19-2016 03:40 PM #14
      My wife had a 2010 Camry with the 2.4 I4 that lost at least 2 quarts of oil (I know it wouldn't even register on the dipstick. This happened after a Toyota mechanic didn't install the oil filter right (Thanks ToyotaCare).

      Long story short, the engine ran fine after that but was noisy on startup. It was quiet after it warmed up and didn't burn any oil. These motors are tough in my experience.

      if anyone is interested, the dealer extended the warranty to 150K miles in writing, so we were at least satisfied.

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      10-19-2016 04:26 PM #15
      I feel bad for co-workers friend. Friend will probably be blamed even though it's pretty clear the oil level wasn't checked since the last change. Good luck...

    17. 10-19-2016 08:38 PM #16
      Do they have an extended policy for this? I have no clue but yea a used engine plus labor shouldn't be too much, 2k is a lot if strapped but a car is essential!

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