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    1. 09-14-2016 07:26 AM #1
      Due to a mishap with my current P.C., the time has come for it to be replaced.

      Current laptop/notebook is as follows:
      Model: MSI GE62 Apache Pro-001 Gaming Notebook (Aluminum Black)
      Operating System: Windows 10 64-Bit
      Processor: Intel Core i7-6700HQ GHz,
      Cache: L3: 6MB
      Memory: 16GB DDR4
      Graphics Card: Dedicated, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 with 3GB GDDR5 VRAM
      Hard Drive: 1 TB 7200 rpm and 128 GB SSD
      Communication: Wi-Fi 802.11ac, Bluetooth 4.0,
      Battery 6-cell

      Looking into the following options:
      Option 1: Lenovo ThinkPad 50
      Model: 20EN001EUS
      CPU: Intel Core i76820HQ (2.70GHz), Skylake, Quad-core processor, CPU L3 Cache: 8MB
      Memory: 16GB
      Storage: 256GB SSD
      Graphics Card: NVIDIA Quadro M2000M, Dedicated 4GB
      Video Memory: Up to 4GB
      Display: 15.6" 4K/UHD

      Operating System is "Windows 10 Home downgrade to Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit"

      Communications:
      WLAN: 802.11ac Wireless LAN
      Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.1
      Battery: 6-cell (90Wh)
      Price: $1,949.00

      Link to Newegg site: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...y40011tj200053

      Option 2:Lenovo 15.6 Y700
      Series: Ideapad
      Model: Y700 (80NV00TGUS)
      Operating System: Windows 10 Home-64 Bit
      CPU: Intel Core i7-6700HQ 2.6GHz, Skylake, Quad-core processes, CPU L3 Cache - 6MB
      Screen: 15.6" IPS
      Memory: 16GB DDR4
      Storage: 1TB HDD + 128GB SSD
      Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M
      Video Memory: 4GB
      Communications:
      WLAN: 802.11ac Wireless LAN
      Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.1

      External DVD/CD reader
      Has card reader (SD, SDHC, SDXC, MMC)
      Battery: 4 Cell 60WHr
      Price: $999.00

      * Of note, this computer offers several options, including CPU Type (AMD FX-Series or Intel Core i7), CPU Speed (6700HQ (2.60GHz) vs FX-8800P (2.10GHz), and GPU/VPU (AMD Radeon R9 M385X vs NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M), SSD (128GB, 256Gb, or none), HDD (1TB or none) and Memory (8GB, 12GB, or 16GB).

      Link to computer on Newegg website: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...5rw011tj2000537

      Option 3: Lenovo Ideapad Y700
      Model: Y700 (80NV00Q9US)
      Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-Bit
      CPU: Intel Core i7-6700HD 2.6GHz, Quad-core processor, skylake, CPU L3 Cache - 6MB
      Screen: 15.6" IPS
      Memory: 16GB DDR4
      Storage: 1 TB HDD + 256 GB SSD
      Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M
      Video Memory: 4GB

      External DVD+-R/RW
      Communications: 802.11ac Wireless LAN
      Bluetoooth: Bluetooth 4.0
      Backlit keyboard
      Media Card Reader (SD, SDHC, SDXC, MMC)
      Battery: 4 Cell 60 WHr

      Price: $1,049

      Link to Newegg site for this laptop: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...60k011tj200053

      Option 4:
      Brand: Acer Predator 15
      Model: G9-591-74KN
      CPU: Intel Core i7-6700HQ 2.6GHz, Quad-core processor, Skylake, CPU L3 Cache - 6MB
      Memory: 32GB DDR4 (Memory Specs 16GB x2)
      Storage: 1 TB HBB 7200rpm SATA+ 512 GB PCle SSD
      Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTM 980M
      Video Memory: 4GB GDDR5
      Battery: 8-cell
      Price: $2,106

      Link to Newegg site with details about this model: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...=scsho18511970

      Option 5:
      Brand: Acer Predator 15
      Model: G9-591-70XR
      CPU: Intel Core i7-2700HQ 2.6GHz, Quad-core processor, Skylake, CPU L3 Cache - 6MB
      Memory 16GB DDR4 (memory spec - 8GB x 2)
      Storage: 1 TB HDD 7200rpm + 256 GB SSD
      Graphics Card: NVIDIA Geforce GTM 980M

      Option 6:
      Lenovo ThinkPad 50
      Processor: Intel Xeon E3-1505M V5 (8MB Cache, up to 3.70GHz)
      Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64
      Display: 15.6" 4k (3840x2160) IPS Non-Touch
      Memory: 32GB (8x4) DDR5 21333MHx EC SoDIMM
      Graphics Card: NVIDIA Quadro M2000M 4GB
      Keyboard is backlit
      First Solid State Drive / Second Hard Disc: 1TB SSD PCle-NVMe
      Total Hard Drive Capacity: 1TB
      Battery: 6 Cell Li-Polymer Battery 90Wh
      Wireless: Intel Dual Band Wirelsss-AC (2x2) 8260, Bluetooth Version 4.1 vPro

      Total Cost: $3,350.06
      Video Memory: 4GB GDDR5
      Price: $1,769

      Link to Newegg with details about this P.C.: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...f4d011tj200053



      All the statistics and numbers confuse me. Thus far, despite it being more expensive than what I had hoped to spend, I am leaning towards the Lenovo ThinkPad50, as not only does it have a more formal, business look, but the stats seem sufficient to properly run Photoshop. Any input and advice would be great guys...

      Thank you

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      09-14-2016 08:57 AM #2
      tl;dr

      buy the most expensive one. Can't go wrong
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      09-14-2016 09:16 AM #3
      List your needs in order of importance?

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      once you do that you won't need any help.
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      09-14-2016 09:23 AM #4
      Missed something in the OP.

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      09-14-2016 10:22 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by Gekbi83 View Post
      Due to a mishap with my current P.C., the time has come for it to be replaced.
      Forgot to use Incognito Mode, eh?

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      09-14-2016 10:41 AM #6
      Judging from the MSI you do laptop gaming?

      Build a desktop PC.

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      09-14-2016 11:09 AM #7
      Dell Latitude 7xxx, unless you need a powerful graphics card, they're great. Make sure you get an SSD though.
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    9. 09-14-2016 12:13 PM #8
      Literally, I need a writing reports at work and editing pictures through Photoshop. I got the MSI not for gaming, but because the video card and processor were powerful enough to let me utilize Photoshop without difficulty. Not a gamer, computer or console.

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      09-14-2016 12:48 PM #9
      My dad just bought a pretty nice ASUS ROG i7 from Best Buy for $1200. It was actually more expensive on Amazon.

      http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog...?skuId=5090905

      15.6" Full HD display
      The 1920 x 1080 resolution boasts impressive color and clarity. Energy-efficient LED backlight.

      6th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-6700HQ mobile processor
      Powerful quad-core, eight-way processing performance. Intel Turbo Boost Technology delivers dynamic extra power when you need it, while increasing energy efficiency when you don't.

      12GB system memory for full-power multitasking
      Plenty of high-bandwidth RAM to smoothly run your games and photo- and video-editing applications, as well as multiple programs and browser tabs all at once.

      1TB hard drive for ample file storage space
      Holds a sizeable collection of digital photos, music, HD videos and DVD-quality movies. 5400 rpm spindle speed for standard read/write times.

      NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M graphics
      Backed by 3GB dedicated video memory for a fast, advanced GPU to fuel your games.

      Stream entertainment from your laptop to your TV
      Intel® Wireless Display (c) wirelessly transmits content to your HDTV* — photos, music, Web videos, Internet TV — whether on the hard drive or online.

      Weighs 4.85 lbs. and measures 0.9" thin
      Balances portability and screen size, so you get a respectable amount of viewing space without the laptop being too cumbersome for practical portability. 4-cell lithium-ion battery.
      The only thing I'd change is swap in a SSD.
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      09-14-2016 01:34 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by Gekbi83 View Post
      Due to a mishap with my current P.C., the time has come for it to be replaced.
      What mishap?
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    12. 09-14-2016 02:30 PM #11
      Build your own.
      This way you can get exactly what you want, not as close as possible.
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      09-14-2016 02:33 PM #12
      Buy a Surface Book. The Surface line's integration with windows is seamlessly perfect (go figure) and the book is made with a discreet graphics processor specifically to run professional software such as autocad, visio, photoshop, etc.

      https://www.microsoftstore.com/store...160914182933:s
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      09-14-2016 03:11 PM #13
      Dang... I thought the original post was spam trying to get you to buy computers from the linked website.

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      09-14-2016 04:35 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by dubraycer36 View Post
      Build your own.
      This way you can get exactly what you want, not as close as possible.
      He wants a laptop...
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      09-14-2016 04:37 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Saabstory02 View Post
      Buy a Surface Book. The Surface line's integration with windows is seamlessly perfect (go figure) and the book is made with a discreet graphics processor specifically to run professional software such as autocad, visio, photoshop, etc.

      https://www.microsoftstore.com/store...160914182933:s
      The hinge on that thing looks like it will last less than 6 months.



      And what happens when you put it in a bag and the two sides are smashed together repeatedly, day in and day out?
      Last edited by Hostile; 09-14-2016 at 04:43 PM.
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      09-14-2016 05:14 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Hostile View Post
      The hinge on that thing looks like it will last less than 6 months.



      And what happens when you put it in a bag and the two sides are smashed together repeatedly, day in and day out?
      I guess you have never seen one in person.
      The hinge is very strong. I have seen people stand on them while closed and it does not move closer or cause any damage.
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      09-14-2016 06:39 PM #17
      I just bought a Thinkpad E560. I got laid off August 31 and had to turn in my T560. My must-haves are track point on the keyboard, 15.4" display, and FHD 1920x1080. The T560 has a better keyboard and the display quality is better but I was in a hurry and couldn't wait for one to be built in China and shipped. I bought the E560 on Amazon and had it 2 days later. The eTailer put a 1/2 gig SSD in it. It's ok as a spare personal machine but I'd rather have a T560 as a work machine. The only positive to the E560 is the integral CD-ROM drive. I don't need that on a work machine but it's useful for loading up my iTunes library without messing with an external drive

    19. 09-14-2016 08:46 PM #18
      Not sure if they still do it, but my Lenovo has a "white listed" BIOS. Meaning, you can only replace components on it that are originally spec'd by Lenovo. I had to load hacked BIOS onto it in order to replace the crap WIFI card that would constantly disconnect every 5 minutes and need a reboot. Liked the computer otherwise, but will never buy another Lenovo again out of spite.

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      09-14-2016 08:55 PM #19
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      09-14-2016 11:20 PM #20
      Why do you want a laptop? If your main purpose is playing games, and you don't really need the portability of a laptop, you should build your own desktop rig instead.

      It's not really that difficult and it will give you much greater range of options. And easy upgrades in the future. Laptops tend to lock you in with proprietary everything and integrated everything. Wifi card quits working? New motherboard... etc.

      Personally, I don't like laptops for gaming. The i7 CPUs run HOT in laptops even just doing web browsing and running a few apps. I have an i7 in my Macbook Pro and I can't even work with it on my lap just running putty and a few browser windows... Forget trying to run a game like Doom or Deus Ex.
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      09-15-2016 09:39 AM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by Hostile View Post
      The hinge on that thing looks like it will last less than 6 months.
      Quote Originally Posted by NeverEnoughCars View Post
      I guess you have never seen one in person.
      The hinge is very strong. I have seen people stand on them while closed and it does not move closer or cause any damage.
      ^This. I am no Microsoft groupie by any means (used to hate 'em); but once I looked at the Surface compared to it's competitors, it was just no contest. The Pro 4 and the Surface Book have just gotten even better now; and yeah, that hinge is strong as hell.

      Quote Originally Posted by sdpauly View Post
      Why do you want a laptop? If your main purpose is playing games, and you don't really need the portability of a laptop, you should build your own desktop rig instead.
      He isn't gaming at all; he said that earlier. Just needs enhanced graphics capability for his work.
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      09-15-2016 11:00 AM #22
      I didn't see any mention in the OP of what his needs were. Just a list of a bunch of computers with a 'which one should I get?'

      If he said it later, I must have missed it...
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      09-15-2016 12:08 PM #23
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    25. 09-15-2016 04:08 PM #24
      I need a laptop to use it at both work and home. My documents have to travel with me between work and home. Plus, I sometimes go to hospitals, where I need access to work records. A PC is not necessary at this time.

      The "mishap" that occurred was the strap on my Samsonite messenger bag was not properly clipped into the hinge. When I lifted it out of the trunk, the bag fell, striking the corner, which damaged the side of the metal frame on my MSI laptop. It has since been running strange, and making odd, loud noises.

      I don't play, nor intend, to play video games on my laptop. Besides Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, and an internet browsing program, the only "hard use" program I utilize is Photoshop. Having used Photoshop on under-powered computers, I know how frustrating it can be. Hence, if I am to spend the money on a new laptop, might as well get one that will suit my needs properly.


      People on other forums have said that the new Xeon processor is not good (due to "thermal throttling") and not worth the excessive price.

      Somebody else suggested I look into the Microsoft Surface Book, which looks more like a toy than a work product.

      I have also come across a post stating that the newest 4K monitors are to be avoided, as they don't allow older programs to appear properly on the screen. Unfortunately, I need to use older programs for my work.

      In building a Lenovo ThinkPad 50 online, I can upgrade to the Intel Xeon E3-1505MV5 Processor with NVIDIA Quadro M2000M 4G Graphic Card for $60, from the standard Intel i7-6820HQ processor (8MB Cache, Up to 3.6GHz)
      Last edited by Gekbi83; 09-15-2016 at 04:14 PM.

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      09-15-2016 05:36 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by Gekbi83 View Post
      I need a laptop to use it at both work and home. My documents have to travel with me between work and home. Plus, I sometimes go to hospitals, where I need access to work records. A PC is not necessary at this time.

      The "mishap" that occurred was the strap on my Samsonite messenger bag was not properly clipped into the hinge. When I lifted it out of the trunk, the bag fell, striking the corner, which damaged the side of the metal frame on my MSI laptop. It has since been running strange, and making odd, loud noises.

      I don't play, nor intend, to play video games on my laptop. Besides Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, and an internet browsing program, the only "hard use" program I utilize is Photoshop. Having used Photoshop on under-powered computers, I know how frustrating it can be. Hence, if I am to spend the money on a new laptop, might as well get one that will suit my needs properly.


      People on other forums have said that the new Xeon processor is not good (due to "thermal throttling") and not worth the excessive price.

      Somebody else suggested I look into the Microsoft Surface Book, which looks more like a toy than a work product.

      I have also come across a post stating that the newest 4K monitors are to be avoided, as they don't allow older programs to appear properly on the screen. Unfortunately, I need to use older programs for my work.

      In building a Lenovo ThinkPad 50 online, I can upgrade to the Intel Xeon E3-1505MV5 Processor with NVIDIA Quadro M2000M 4G Graphic Card for $60, from the standard Intel i7-6820HQ processor (8MB Cache, Up to 3.6GHz)

      I would stay away from a Xeon in a laptop, kind of pointless in a consumer-grade system. Have you considered getting an i5 CPU instead? For what you're doing, I think a newer i5 (with 16+GB of RAM and a fast SSD) would be more than adequate for your needs. The i7's is overkill and it will run hot, making it uncomfortable to use as a laptop (a pc sitting on your lap).
      "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats." -H. L. Mencken

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