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    1. 09-14-2016 12:32 AM #1
      Hello. I'm looking to replace my current laptop/notebook, that was the result of a mishap in which the strap of my messenger broke, and caused the contents within to hit the ground. In doing so, it bent a corner of the P.C., such that the fans have become obnoxiously loud at even normal speeds, and there are glitches/delays with software programs that were not a problem beforehand.

      I strictly use a laptop for work purposes, that primarily require I generate lengthy reports, in addition to running a few basic software programs (nothing that demands a lot of power, I'm talking VERY basic software). That said, I am a photography enthusiast, and often use Photoshop, which requires a "better" system, to edit my pictures. Given the range of prices and things I read online, I am quite confused

      Things of importance:

      - Will be considerably "new," given the rapid progression of novel technological advances.
      - Will allow me to seamlessly navigate Photoshop, which necessitates a considerable degree of the computer functioning.
      - Backlit keyboard is a must
      - Not interested in Apple (all software for my job is made for P.C. applications)
      - Internal CD/DVD drive preferred
      - Ample storage/memory on computer to keep photos, until they can be transferred to an external hard drive in the future. I worry that too many photos on the SSD may slow down it's speed.
      - Not sure if it matters, but optimal Wi-Fi network card to ensure I get receive a strong signal, both at work and home (I see some PC's have different cards, hence my point).
      - SSD is preferred over HDD, as it loads programs much faster, but my hesitancy is if it does not possess "enough" memory to store a number of data (i.e., music, documents, pictures, programs, etc.). Essentially, will it be too taxing for the P.C. to operate on SSD alone.
      - 15" monitor preferred, as it is large enough to write reports (which I do all day and night), and small enough to carry about the plane when traveling.
      - A build in CD/DVD drive would be ideal, as several of the programs I use need to be installed via CD (they are outdated, but necessary in my line of work).

      Current P.C.
      Model: MSI GE62 Apache Pro-001 Gaming Notebook (Aluminum Black)
      Operating System: Windows 10 64-Bit
      Processor: Intel Core i7-6700HQ GHz,
      Cache: L3: 6MB
      Memory: 16GB DDR4
      Graphics Card: Dedicated, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 with 3GB GDDR5 VRAM
      Hard Drive: 1 TB 7200 rpm and 128 GB SSD
      Communication: Wi-Fi 802.11ac, Bluetooth 4.0,
      Battery 6-cell
      Price: $1,499

      Link to computer on Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834152945


      Option 1: Lenovo ThinkPad 50
      Model: 20EN001EUS
      CPU: Intel Core i76820HQ (2.70GHz), Skylake, Quad-core processor, CPU L3 Cache: 8MB
      Memory: 16GB
      Storage: 256GB SSD
      Graphics Card: NVIDIA Quadro M2000M, Dedicated 4GB
      Video Memory: Up to 4GB
      Display: 15.6" 4K/UHD

      Operating System is "Windows 10 Home downgrade to Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit"

      Communications:
      WLAN: 802.11ac Wireless LAN
      Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.1
      Battery: 6-cell (90Wh)
      Price: $1,949.00

      Link to Newegg site: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9SIA9RG3SZ3410



      Option 2:Lenovo 15.6 Y700

      Series: Ideapad
      Model: Y700 (80NV00TGUS)
      Operating System: Windows 10 Home-64 Bit
      CPU: Intel Core i7-6700HQ 2.6GHz, Skylake, Quad-core processes, CPU L3 Cache - 6MB
      Screen: 15.6" IPS
      Memory: 16GB DDR4
      Storage: 1TB HDD + 128GB SSD
      Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M
      Video Memory: 4GB
      Communications:
      WLAN: 802.11ac Wireless LAN
      Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.1

      External DVD/CD reader
      Has card reader (SD, SDHC, SDXC, MMC)
      Battery: 4 Cell 60WHr
      Price: $999.00

      * Of note, this computer offers several options, including CPU Type (AMD FX-Series or Intel Core i7), CPU Speed (6700HQ (2.60GHz) vs FX-8800P (2.10GHz), and GPU/VPU (AMD Radeon R9 M385X vs NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M), SSD (128GB, 256Gb, or none), HDD (1TB or none) and Memory (8GB, 12GB, or 16GB).

      Link to computer on Newegg website: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834331906


      Option 3: Lenovo Ideapad Y700
      Model: Y700 (80NV00Q9US)
      Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-Bit
      CPU: Intel Core i7-6700HD 2.6GHz, Quad-core processor, skylake, CPU L3 Cache - 6MB
      Screen: 15.6" IPS
      Memory: 16GB DDR4
      Storage: 1 TB HDD + 256 GB SSD
      Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M
      Video Memory: 4GB

      External DVD+-R/RW
      Communications: 802.11ac Wireless LAN
      Bluetoooth: Bluetooth 4.0
      Backlit keyboard
      Media Card Reader (SD, SDHC, SDXC, MMC)
      Battery: 4 Cell 60 WHr

      Price: $1,049


      Link to Newegg site for this laptop: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834331906



      Option 4:

      Brand: Acer Predator 15
      Model: G9-591-74KN
      CPU: Intel Core i7-6700HQ 2.6GHz, Quad-core processer, Skylake, CPU L3 Cache - 6MB
      Memory: 32GB DDR4 (Memory Specs 16GB x2)
      Storage: 1 TB HBB 7200rpm SATA+ 512 GB PCle SSD
      Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTM 980M
      Video Memory: 4GB GDDR5
      Battery: 8-cell
      Price: $2,106

      Link to Newegg site with details about this model: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834315250

      Option 4:
      Brand: Acer Predator 15
      Model: G9-591-70XR
      CPU: Intel Core i7-2700HQ 2.6GHz, Quad-core processor, Skylake, CPU L3 Cache - 6MB
      Memory 16GB DDR4 (memory spec - 8GB x 2)
      Storage: 1 TB HDD 7200rpm + 256 GB SSD
      Graphics Card: NVIDIA Geforce GTM 980M
      Video Memory: 4GB GDDR5
      Price: $1,769

      Link to Newegg with details about this P.C.: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834315187

      I know that the P.C. I currently use is copacetic, but it was 1) free from a friend who is a computer geek and upgraded and 2) drives me insane with the loud fan noise. There are several new computers with even higher video cards, though I don't think these are necessary for my applications, and thus not worth the cost to me. Any input would be GREATLY appreciated!
      Last edited by Gekbi83; 09-14-2016 at 12:35 AM.

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      09-14-2016 01:32 AM #2
      option 4 (the first one) because 32GB RAM and 512GB PCIe SSD. Running Windows + PS on this will be very nice... All the systems used the similar CPU. (for your "large" budget, stick with Intel CPU). All the GPU use in all system are overkill for your need. And I don't think the Lenovo you chose use PCIe SSD (these are not regular SSD, think Porsche 911 GT3 RS engine (PCIe SSD) vs regular 911 engine (SATA SSD))

      ** ThinkPad P50 "may" use PCIe SSD (read from Lenovo site), you need to find out which what it come with...

      Max. Storage Devices - 3

      2 TB HDD
      1 TB PCIe / SATA SSD
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    4. 09-14-2016 02:04 AM #3
      Thank you for the prompt reply!

      So you are advising I go with the Asus Predator model G9-591-70XR. I figured all these computers are an excess of what I need to use them for, primarily because any old machine will run a writing program, its the Photoshop that concerns me.

    5. 09-14-2016 07:15 AM #4
      Any thoughts on the following set-up for my needs (writing work report and occasional Photoshop):

      Lenovo ThinkPad 50
      Processor: Intel Xeon E3-1505M V5 (8MB Cache, up to 3.70GHz)
      Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64
      Display: 15.6" 4k (3840x2160) IPS Non-Touch
      Memory: 32GB (8x4) DDR5 21333MHx EC SoDIMM
      Graphics Card: NVIDIA Quadro M2000M 4GB
      Keyboard is backlit
      First Solid State Drive / Second Hard Disc: 1TB SSD PCle-NVMe
      Total Hard Drive Capacity: 1TB
      Battery: 6 Cell Li-Polymer Battery 90Wh
      Wireless: Intel Dual Band Wirelsss-AC (2x2) 8260, Bluetooth Version 4.1 vPro

      Total Cost: $3,350.06

      It is more than I hoped to spend, but I figured by selecting some of the higher options now, it will last me in the long run (e.g., selecting the 32 (8x4) memory card versus the 16GB DDR402133MHZ ECC SODIMM.There are still more expensive options, like the 64 (16x4) DDR4 2133 Mhx ECC SoDimm, but that is an additional $500 option!

      I think and hope that a !TB SSD PCle-NVMe hard SSD will suffice for my needs, as I don't really fill up memory quickly on computers in the first place. Unlike the other P.C.'s I have been browsing, this one actually looks "business" like, void of any obscure gamer images on the cover.

      Think it is worth pulling the trigger on this model? Do the specs seem good?

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      09-14-2016 08:17 AM #5
      I thought Xeon were server CPUs?
      Odd.

      I can't imagine why you would need more than 16gb ram.
      Your software should have minimum and recommended specs.

      Computers are like... spend x and then in four years spend x for a new one again. Or spend 2 times x and still wish you could upgrade in four years.
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    7. 09-14-2016 12:42 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      I thought Xeon were server CPUs?
      Odd.

      I can't imagine why you would need more than 16gb ram.
      Your software should have minimum and recommended specs.

      Computers are like... spend x and then in four years spend x for a new one again. Or spend 2 times x and still wish you could upgrade in four years.
      Xeon processors are generally found in servers since they're a step above consumer-grade processors (i3 - i7). They usually have a lot more cores than the consumer-grade processors, support a lot more memory, ECC memory, and are HT enabled. Xeons don't have integrated GPUs either. Generally Xeon processors are overkill for desktops/laptops.

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      09-14-2016 01:16 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      I thought Xeon were server CPUs?
      Odd.
      That is Xeon E3-1xxx series. Intel position it as professional workstation processor and small business server CPU. And now they even have mobile version!!

      Quote Originally Posted by SpiffyGTI View Post
      Xeons don't have integrated GPUs either. Generally Xeon processors are overkill for desktops/laptops.
      This is not true anymore... The newest Xeon (Skylake and Broadwell based) E3-1xxx series comes with Intel Iris Pro or Intel HD graphics. ECC RAM is also not a must have requirement.

      http://www.tomshardware.com/news/int...igp,31918.html
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      09-14-2016 01:30 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by Gekbi83 View Post
      Thank you for the prompt reply!

      So you are advising I go with the Asus Predator model G9-591-70XR. I figured all these computers are an excess of what I need to use them for, primarily because any old machine will run a writing program, its the Photoshop that concerns me.
      No, I suggest the Asus Predator Model: G9-591-74KN. It comes with a 512GB PCIe SSD.

      That Xeon laptop is way expensive... If you really need processing power, go desktop...
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      09-15-2016 01:54 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Avus View Post
      No, I suggest the Asus Predator Model: G9-591-74KN. It comes with a 512GB PCIe SSD.

      That Xeon laptop is way expensive... If you really need processing power, go desktop...
      Yep.. just google thermal throttling.
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