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      01-26-2016 10:46 PM #1
      Alright, I'm ready to start piecing together a new turbo setup for my build. I was talked into running a GT28RS, less heat than a K04 for the power I'm looking at and the Garrett turbos spool really quick with their dial ball bearing technology. Anyway after doing some research I'm not really fining a good kit for a 1.8t AWP motor. Looks like I'm going to be piecing stuff together. Is there a one stop website where I can get most of what I need all in one place? I'll need a T25 manifold, injectors, I'd like to run a 3 in downpipe and AN fitting braided lines for cooling. Is ATP TUrbo going to be the it or is there another great place to take a look at? Cheers everyone
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      01-26-2016 11:47 PM #3
      I was looking for something with a T25 flange for the downpipe instead of a v-band. Is there any pros and cons with either of them? I've been doing research and realized that my previous statement of T25 manifold was incorrect.
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    6. 01-27-2016 12:57 AM #4
      If you're contemplating a Garrett 28-series turbo then you should be looking past the 1990's-era 28rs and instead researching their GTX line.

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      01-27-2016 02:03 AM #5
      Thats a tough decision. ATP Turbos has a kit that can be upgraded to the GTX2867R for an extra $300. Is that really worth it?
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      01-27-2016 10:43 AM #6
      pag part v-band setup is what I'd do.

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      01-27-2016 12:03 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by BedsideTiger View Post
      Thats a tough decision. ATP Turbos has a kit that can be upgraded to the GTX2867R for an extra $300. Is that really worth it?
      The ATP kit is an older kit but still quite reliable. It looks like they have since upgraded the turbine discharge to a v-band setup like the Pag Parts kit. For $2,399 + 300 GTX2867R upgrade I would say that it's definitely worth it. The Pag Parts kit uses a better exhaust manifold and has better fitment. But, it's more than $1,200 more with the GTX2867R upgrade (3,935 vs. 2,699). I pieced together my own turbo kit based off of the ATP manifold back in 2009. I have had zero issues with my setup other than a wastegate gasket that needs to be replaced. Upgrading to the GTX2867R with either kit will give you a lot of room for improvement should you decide to upgrade rods, etc. in the future.

      EDIT: Added picture of the ATP kit. The 1,200 you save with the APT kit can be used for upgrading software, rods etc.

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      01-27-2016 01:08 PM #8
      Wow thanks for the advice. Looks like upgraded ATP kit for me then!

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      01-27-2016 01:49 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by BedsideTiger View Post
      Wow thanks for the advice. Looks like upgraded ATP kit for me then!

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      You may also want to consider piecing your own kit together as you originally stated. You can get an ATP clone exhaust manifold for less than $100.00. The most difficult part of doing your own kit is fabricating a downpipe and turbo inlet pipe. If you know a local exhaust shop that can do it for a couple hundred dollars, then it's definitely worth it.

      I don't have any experience with the ATP kit but it's not as refined as the Pag Parts kit and may require some minor adjustments. Not sure.
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      01-27-2016 02:51 PM #10
      I have a brand new gtx2867r with a tial vband housing that it has been ceramic coated for sale if you're interested.
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      01-27-2016 03:15 PM #11
      Shoot me a pm with some pics

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      Just bought a GTX2863 for myself for Christmas

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      01-28-2016 09:06 PM #13
      Why did you go with that over the GTX2867R?

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      01-28-2016 10:12 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by mainstayinc View Post
      The ATP kit is an older kit but still quite reliable. It looks like they have since upgraded the turbine discharge to a v-band setup like the Pag Parts kit. For $2,399 + 300 GTX2867R upgrade I would say that it's definitely worth it. The Pag Parts kit uses a better exhaust manifold and has better fitment. But, it's more than $1,200 more with the GTX2867R upgrade (3,935 vs. 2,699). I pieced together my own turbo kit based off of the ATP manifold back in 2009. I have had zero issues with my setup other than a wastegate gasket that needs to be replaced. Upgrading to the GTX2867R with either kit will give you a lot of room for improvement should you decide to upgrade rods, etc. in the future.

      EDIT: Added picture of the ATP kit. The 1,200 you save with the APT kit can be used for upgrading software, rods etc.

      Actually its 3685 for the internally gated version (985 difference). Biggest differences:

      -manifold is ss proprietary alloy (made in the USA) and not iron. Its also much easier to take off/on where the ATP manifold sometimes needs to be chiseled off
      -higher quality lines which arent a rubber core which will eventually break down from exhaust heat
      -one piece dp going all the way back to the middle of the car
      -vband isnt machined off the casting which have been known to break off on the weak iron. I used to have an iron manifold that i machined the vbands but they were superceded to my current ones because they do end up breaking off due to being thin and brittle at times.
      -much better flowing manifold which will reduce egt's and make more power

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      01-28-2016 10:53 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
      Actually its 3685 for the internally gated version (985 difference). Biggest differences:

      -manifold is ss proprietary alloy (made in the USA) and not iron. Its also much easier to take off/on where the ATP manifold sometimes needs to be chiseled off
      -higher quality lines which arent a rubber core which will eventually break down from exhaust heat
      -one piece dp going all the way back to the middle of the car
      -vband isnt machined off the casting which have been known to break off on the weak iron. I used to have an iron manifold that i machined the vbands but they were superceded to my current ones because they do end up breaking off due to being thin and brittle at times.
      -much better flowing manifold which will reduce egt's and make more power
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      01-29-2016 12:34 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
      Actually its 3685 for the internally gated version (985 difference). Biggest differences:

      -manifold is ss proprietary alloy (made in the USA) and not iron. Its also much easier to take off/on where the ATP manifold sometimes needs to be chiseled off
      -higher quality lines which arent a rubber core which will eventually break down from exhaust heat
      -one piece dp going all the way back to the middle of the car
      -vband isnt machined off the casting which have been known to break off on the weak iron. I used to have an iron manifold that i machined the vbands but they were superceded to my current ones because they do end up breaking off due to being thin and brittle at times.
      -much better flowing manifold which will reduce egt's and make more power
      I also like the fact that it's a passenger-side inlet. Makes it easy to connect compressor outlet to stock IC piping or run a nice front-mount IC to the driver's side.
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      01-29-2016 09:36 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by l88m22vette View Post
      Just bought a GTX2863 for myself for Christmas
      That's a nice turbo. You're really going to enjoy the quick spool and massive mid-range.
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      01-29-2016 01:01 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by BedsideTiger View Post
      Why did you go with that over the GTX2867R?

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      Because I got it for $800 Also, my TT is my nice-weather daily, I love the idea of 400whp but don't want a powerband from 4k-8k. It'll be bolted to an older T3 Pag manifold, all I need is the wastegate and turbine housing so I can send the parts to Arnold for a downpipe.

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      02-01-2016 05:54 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by BedsideTiger View Post
      Shoot me a pm with some pics

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      Pm'd you back. I can sell a pagparts vband turbo kit for extra.
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