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    1. Member SlowSilver's Avatar
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      12-27-2015 11:29 AM #1
      So I've been looking around for a bit trying to find some dyno sheets. Im looking for results of a MK4 1.8t with gt2871 and of a gt3071 with nothing more than a front mount, 3 inch turbo back, intake and what ever fuel system they're running. I'm pulling the motor after the holiday to refresh and do rods. I know the 30 will flow more and make a good amount of power but I can't imagine it would be much more than the 28 with a similar set up. Both are no slouch and capable of my target of 300+. It's a DD with occasional track days and autobahn runs for fun. Im just looking for power curves with numbers, but if anybody has any input it would be greatly appreciated.

      Edit: I should say I'm interested in the CTS kit.
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      12-27-2015 12:48 PM #2
      Vband Billet 3071R 0.72 ar, stock AGU head, 2008cc block, E85 fuel, PagParts Manifold.

      32psi:

      Largeport 2008cc 9,7:1CR, Catcams 3651, GTX3582R genII 0,82ar + E85 = 723bhp - N I T S -

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      12-27-2015 03:54 PM #3
      Wow those are some serious numbers. How is the spool time on that? Thanks Gulfstream.
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      12-27-2015 06:41 PM #4
      Something like this. I don't run this engine anymore but it made good torque as you can see. So good in fact, it broke the CAST crank in half:

      Largeport 2008cc 9,7:1CR, Catcams 3651, GTX3582R genII 0,82ar + E85 = 723bhp - N I T S -

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      12-28-2015 08:48 AM #5
      Wow I didn't know a 3071 would flow that well. And full boost by 4 thousand is impressive. I plan on doing the head next season, you ran to 8000 on a stock agu head? How did that look after a few thousand miles?
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      12-28-2015 09:29 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by SlowSilver View Post
      Wow I didn't know a 3071 would flow that well. And full boost by 4 thousand is impressive. I plan on doing the head next season, you ran to 8000 on a stock agu head? How did that look after a few thousand miles?
      I had A LOT of backpressure with that turbo on a 2008cc motor and E85 fuel. I didn't run it myself on the dyno and I told the guy to stop at 7200rpms. When I drove it myself with a stock head I was never over 7500rpm.

      With a built head I told the dyno guy to stop at 8000rpm and he didn't let off until 9500rpm once... he was waiting for the rev limiter which wasn't working in Eurodyne for whatever reason..
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    9. 12-28-2015 10:22 AM #7
      gt3071r

      but if ur goal is lower around 300-350whp i would say get a 50 trim if u go 50 trim look for one that is ball bearing and water cooled turbonetics makes some nice ones, or get a gtx3067 ur call tho
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      12-28-2015 11:19 AM #8
      As you are starting from scratch.. there are some very nice Borg Warner turbos out there which can give you wide powerband AND less backpressure.
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      12-28-2015 04:41 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Gulfstream View Post
      As you are starting from scratch.. there are some very nice Borg Warner turbos out there which can give you wide powerband AND less backpressure.
      I'm not familiar with the Borg Warners other than the ko3s and 4s. I didnt even know they made aftermarket. Is there any you would recommend? I'll do some digging through and see what I turn up. Thanks
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      12-28-2015 04:42 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by NaSMK4 View Post
      gt3071r

      but if ur goal is lower around 300-350whp i would say get a 50 trim if u go 50 trim look for one that is ball bearing and water cooled turbonetics makes some nice ones, or get a gtx3067 ur call tho
      Thanks, I'll look through and see what I turn up.
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      12-28-2015 04:52 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by SlowSilver View Post
      I'm not familiar with the Borg Warners other than the ko3s and 4s. I didnt even know they made aftermarket. Is there any you would recommend? I'll do some digging through and see what I turn up. Thanks
      Get a twin scroll mani and a BW7163. Thank me later.
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      12-31-2015 01:30 AM #12
      Any suggestions on a twin scroll manifold? My engine is a transverse layout and full race only offers one for a longitudinal. Once I find one I'll have to find pipe to connect to my downpipe. For that I'm running a 3 inch 42DD turbo back. Thanks
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      12-31-2015 10:41 AM #13
      You do not need a twin scroll setup if you are looking for something with good response in that power range in the EFR lineup. The EFR6758 with .64ar would suffice. I've set up some ppl with my standard vbanded kit with a modded EFR turbine housing and it offered incredible intial spool up characteristics with great transient response.

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      12-31-2015 12:58 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
      You do not need a twin scroll setup if you are looking for something with good response in that power range in the EFR lineup. The EFR6758 with .64ar would suffice. I've set up some ppl with my standard vbanded kit with a modded EFR turbine housing and it offered incredible intial spool up characteristics with great transient response.
      Listen to this man ^
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    17. 12-31-2015 02:52 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
      You do not need a twin scroll setup if you are looking for something with good response in that power range in the EFR lineup. The EFR6758 with .64ar would suffice. I've set up some ppl with my standard vbanded kit with a modded EFR turbine housing and it offered incredible intial spool up characteristics with great transient response.
      this be the man to listen to on any thing big turbo related in vw / audi imo.
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    18. 12-31-2015 08:00 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
      You do not need a twin scroll setup if you are looking for something with good response in that power range in the EFR lineup. The EFR6758 with .64ar would suffice. I've set up some ppl with my standard vbanded kit with a modded EFR turbine housing and it offered incredible intial spool up characteristics with great transient response.
      Arnold, what are your thoughts on the EFR 6258? All-out performance on stock displacement, E85, and all the bells and whistles? I'm guessing you can also build a kit with your manifold and modded 6258 turbine housing? TIA!
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      12-31-2015 08:49 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Marcus_Aurelius View Post
      Arnold, what are your thoughts on the EFR 6258? All-out performance on stock displacement, E85, and all the bells and whistles? I'm guessing you can also build a kit with your manifold and modded 6258 turbine housing? TIA!
      Knowing your preferences, I think you would love it

    20. 01-01-2016 01:47 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
      Knowing your preferences, I think you would love it
      Great, one more piece of the puzzle, coming up with some real evil plans! Happy New Year to all!
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      01-01-2016 02:19 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
      You do not need a twin scroll setup if you are looking for something with good response in that power range in the EFR lineup. The EFR6758 with .64ar would suffice. I've set up some ppl with my standard vbanded kit with a modded EFR turbine housing and it offered incredible intial spool up characteristics with great transient response.
      Well then AL I'll be in touch once I get back from holiday. Does your company ship to APO
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