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Originally Posted by jamerican1
Just reading this thread. Wonderful M3, probably how I'd spec one out given the choice. I love not having the NAV. Seriously, I just use my phone.
E9X would be a great M3 to own, but I don't feel an overwhelming need to replace my E36 M3... it's a bit more of a toy for me being a 2nd car.
I've been seeing more of these around lately as the prices on them have dropping. I think they have the best exhaust note produced in the last ten years, especially when coupled with an exhaust the exemplifies the blurble of the V8 rather than the top-end raspy-ness.
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Last edited by 6cylVWguy; 07-30-2018 at 04:23 PM.
Probably the best sounding M3 so far- my clownshoe has the S54 and I think it sounds terrible.
I didn't realize that you're probably local to me- are you west or north of Philly? I'm in Abington.
Edit: I know I've seen a clownshoe in my neighborhood before and I want to say that it's green. Maybe you?
Glad you are enjoying it. I am in a 11 ZCP E90 now, and these things are amazing machines and approaching cult status.
As cars get more modern, faster and less connected I think people will warm up to this generation of M3 even more. I love how this generation M3 shrinks around you the faster you go, its awesome. The car is really easy to drive fast despite its 3600 lb curb weight. It feels small, and has a low belt line. The power/chassis combo is also 100% spot on perfect. The whole car just works.
Yeah it has high running costs but let's not forget it has a V8, ITBs, ionic knock control, and revs to 8500 RPM, etc. It's a complex machine that requires a certain buyer, but if you know what to look out for they are fairly dependable.
I've been telling my car buddies this is the best car I've driven, ever. F80 was faster, way prettier and more modern but this E90x M has magic sauce. I don't think I want to drive a turbo charged car again as my fun car and I don't care at all its not the fastest car on the road. It's fast enough for the street.
Last edited by B20VTEC; 08-01-2018 at 09:10 PM.
Great car and good to see you still enjoying it. If I were to have one car to do it all, I think an e90 m3 would be my perfect choice.
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98 m3, Technoviolet/anthrazit cloth, 106k and officially worthless.
2000 323i touring, Titanium silver/grey, 160k and officially boring
A good starting point for anyone with a S197 chassis car that wants turn-key upgrades is this http://www.maximummotorsports.com/20...Box-P1443.aspx plus rear LCA relocation brackets (super easy install).
Last edited by fireside; 08-02-2018 at 07:46 AM.
Congratulations!! Welcome to the club!!! I have the F80 and I miss the exhaust note of the big V8.
Keep us updated of the progress you make with her!
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Not surprised you still enjoy the car....they are fantastic! I originally bought a used 08 to see if I liked it. Well....8 months later I purchased the 2010.
Just rolled 24k miles. The only modification I have is exhaust and it is wicked. I don't think I'll ever get rid of this car (plus I have a problem getting rid of anything....LOL).
Cars - E92 M3, 944 Turbo
Jeeps - TJ, XJ
Other - 14 Durango, 16 Tahoe
My best friend has owned an '11 M3 since new, picked it up during Summer 2010 (don't remember which month). As such, I've had my way with it over the years when he tosses me the keys - usually once every 1-2 years.
To me, the car still feels very special when you hit the start button. The cold start symphony is something to behold. The noise is fantastic and the 8500 rpm redline never gets old. The motor has a sense of occasion about it just about anywhere in the power band.
However, there are a couple knocks against it for me personally. Fuel economy is atrocious. My friend made a meme (see below) that accurately describes it. I've never particularly loved the way the E9x drives, and while the M3 is an improvement over say, a 325xi, it doesn't feel like an exciting sports car, dynamically. That's not a bad thing if you're daily driving the car. It's a competent-driving car with an exciting engine. But as a dedicated toy, there are other cars that excite me more.
It's also a bit fragile - yes, there's always the threat of rod bearings, which my friend keeps in check with Blackstone analysis at every change, but the rear pinion seal is also leaking, which I find unacceptable @ 35K miles. The privateer E9x M3 race cars I've seen over the years also don't seem to have that bulletproof mechanical reputation that its E36/E46 forebears enjoy.
So if you had to have one car - a daily driver (if you don't drive that far) that you can also tear up the backroads with on occasion - I think the M3 is pretty darn good. I don't expect them to hold up as well as E36/E46 M-cars, but I think they are deserving in their own right. I don't have the wallet to daily one, but if I had one I'd probably keep it fairly stock and enjoy it. And I suspect that, just as the E36 M3 wasn't fully appreciated in its heyday, time will rather kind to the E9x and it will be remembered as one of the greats.
And that meme...gets me every time
My clownshoe is black. I've never seen a green one around here. There is a red one that I see every now and then.
I agree with you- Mustangs sound great, it's the firing order. I don't know if Audi or BMW use a similar firing order. Chevy LS and Dodge Hemis use the same firing order, which is why they sound very similar. Old Chevy uses a different firing order.
E36s do sound good with the right exhaust. My S54 is raspy, sounds like crap. Reminds me more of a sportbike kind of sound in a bad way.
Ok, it's been another year with the 2011 M3. What to report? The car is now more of a garage queen than it was. As you note in my mtown vs muscleville photo below, the big guy is more likely to be used for regular driving duties. The car still hasn't become the disaster many people think these cars are. Here's what's gone wrong in the last year:
1) I replaced the driver's door armrest because the rubberized plastic had a long scratch. I did this myself.
2) Last year both driver's side speed sensors went bad. This year the front passenger went bad. I bought the passenger rear preemptively. I did this myself
3) The code reader also identified a fault with the thermostat. I cleared that and will watch it moving forward. So far no lights or weirdness with the car.
4) Rear diff leak at the pinion seal. The shop I took it to felt that because I used nonBMW fluid, that could be the cause. I had them drain the stuff I used and replace it with factory fluid. Seemed to slow the leak and several months later, the shop noted a small amount of seepage. They will see if/how this looks next year. Nothing spent at this point.
Not much really. The Jeep has taken some attention away from the BMW, work is taking much time, and we're looking for a new house which has been a big time sink. Only thing I ended up doing on the fun front is adding a Mode Carbon front lip.
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It’s funny, my best friend’s 2011 has also had #2 and #4 go wrong.
He’d never had anything but the factory gear oil in the diff, the seal just went bad for some reason.
And IIRC it was the front left wheel speed sensor that went bad, and that was just last week.
His car is also mostly a garage queen, I think it’s done 40,000 miles since he got it new in Fall 2010.
Edit -- my rear diff seal is also failing. Nothing on the garage floor....just a small stain on the diff. My car has 26K on it.....
Cars - E92 M3, 944 Turbo
Jeeps - TJ, XJ
Other - 14 Durango, 16 Tahoe
Of course now that I've said that I'm doomed, though I think it might be related more to the location of the vehicle, ie, whether its seen salt, etc.