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    1. Member Gear_Cruncher's Avatar
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      06-16-2015 09:17 PM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by vdubturbo View Post
      I don't know about dramatically, but it is an improvement. The PCM is better but quite honestly, aside form the occasional need to use the nav, it's hardly a deal breaker for me. I'm picky about this kind of stuff... but the fact that the car is just so emotionally satisfying in every way, I could care less that the NAV looks like Atari. I even like the Bose (which I know a lot of people don't).

      I think my interior looks quite sharp... but then again, we all like our own stuff

      It amazes me how many of the interior bits are shared with the Cayman.
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      No, the real enthusiast vehicle would be the RX8. It combines V12 Lamborghini gas mileage with Hyundai Genesis 4cyl. performance.

    4. 06-16-2015 09:23 PM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by ShoelessJoe1917 View Post
      Man I wish I was rich
      Let's rob a bank.
      Quote Originally Posted by l88m22vette View Post
      Modded = beat to ****
      Stock = driven by 87 year old grandmother
      Miss Daisy might not do all her own work and rub her car with a diaper, but she also wasn't a flatbrim bro who hoped boosted VTAK would make women jump into the car naked at 50mph.

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      06-16-2015 10:28 PM #55
      Subscribed. 997 is realistically about 3-4 years away for me. I want so much!

    7. 06-16-2015 10:32 PM #56
      A 997.2 White on Black Cabrio is my dream car.



      Of course...there is the new Boxster Spyder which is pretty compelling....

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      06-16-2015 10:57 PM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by vdubturbo View Post
      I don't know about dramatically, but it is an improvement. The PCM is better but quite honestly, aside form the occasional need to use the nav, it's hardly a deal breaker for me. I'm picky about this kind of stuff... but the fact that the car is just so emotionally satisfying in every way, I could care less that the NAV looks like Atari. I even like the Bose (which I know a lot of people don't).

      I think my interior looks quite sharp... but then again, we all like our own stuff
      The 997 has an awesome interior whether .1 or .2. The dash design is still great. The interior is pretty refined and well put together. The center console is really the only thing that gets to me about them. Mainly the "wood" ones though. Body color looks good.
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    9. 06-16-2015 11:53 PM #58
      Mine (+ random passerbys):


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      06-17-2015 12:07 AM #59
      Man, I love 997's. They're so cool. My favorites are the GT3 and the variants I haven't driven (RS, RS 4.0, RSR, Cup, etc )

      Main difference in the .2 interior is that the buttons are of a much, much higher quality, and are consistent with current Porsche standards. The .1 buttons are like EmmKayFour Jetta buttons that fall apart and get sticky

      It could be my imagination, but the manual gear change is a bit better on the .2. And the auto is obviously a lot better, because the .2 went to PDK (from the crappy Tiptronic--finally).

      I don't know where to start...hmm...how about here:



      This is a super rare color combo. And one of my all-time favorites.





      Looks so weird when the heated seat buttons aren't there. Smart previous owner eschewed the (crap) center system and installed some random aftermarket unit (note to purists: original radio was in a box in the trunk). Also note the optional fire extinguisher. I heard these cars were unreliable maintenance nightmares that caught fire...



      That paint was essentially black but if you caught it at the right angles, it was very green.

      This is still just one of my favorite cars...ever. I would need many years to master the ways of this car

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      06-17-2015 01:43 AM #60
      I've always felt 997s look better with thinner spoke wheels.

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      06-17-2015 02:05 AM #61
      "Some" of my photos.




































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      06-17-2015 02:09 AM #62
      A couple more of a pretty heavily modded RS I got to shoot a couple of years back.












      And I nearly soiled my pants when he started it. FVD Brombacher exhaust FTW.

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      06-17-2015 02:16 AM #63
      Ah what the hell, a few more. Quality watered down by Facebook.











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      06-17-2015 02:53 AM #64
      The 997 looks too good! Cheapest 997 in Vancouver is a 39,000 mile 2005 C2 at $43k CDN ($35k USD). http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/ctd/5045124367.html

      Look how fine it is....

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      06-17-2015 11:01 AM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by ShoelessJoe1917 View Post
      Man I wish I was rich
      A 2005 with some miles on it can be had in the upper $20s....

      And for what it's worth, a crappy picture of mine:

    17. 06-17-2015 12:59 PM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by Charolastra View Post
      Are you serious? 997.2 on left. 997.1 on right:


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      06-17-2015 01:13 PM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by Moodyblues View Post
      A 997.2 White on Black Cabrio is my dream car.



      Of course...there is the new Boxster Spyder which is pretty compelling....
      Not sure what the going rate for 997.2 GTS cab's are but I parked behind a new 991 GTS cabrio when I dropped my car off for service on Monday. It was exactly as your pic shows only a 991 and the sticker was close to $140K

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      06-17-2015 02:29 PM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by Remedy View Post


      This annoys me. It's not a GT3, but it has most of the GT3 exterior bits installed.

      I guess next thing for this owner is a debadge and maybe rebadge as a GT3

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      06-17-2015 02:56 PM #69
      Quote Originally Posted by someguy123 View Post
      This annoys me. It's not a GT3, but it has most of the GT3 exterior bits installed.

      I guess next thing for this owner is a debadge and maybe rebadge as a GT3
      So what? People have been putting the trim and body pieces from the higher level on the lower level forever. This one is pretty tasteful too, as I believe that's the GT3 RS bumper to match with the C4S widebody.

      It still has C4S badges now, so why be spiteful toward the owner? As long as we're making assumptions, let's accuse the guy of stancing the thing on stretched tires too. Man, that car is doing even worse things in your imagination than in real life
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      06-17-2015 03:03 PM #70
      Anyway, here are some action shots...











      And a car I see on the streets from time to time. Love this color.







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    22. 06-17-2015 05:59 PM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by someguy123 View Post
      This annoys me. It's not a GT3, but it has most of the GT3 exterior bits installed.

      I guess next thing for this owner is a debadge and maybe rebadge as a GT3
      If I had a 997, I would modify it the same exact way.

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      06-17-2015 06:49 PM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by someguy123 View Post
      This annoys me. It's not a GT3, but it has most of the GT3 exterior bits installed.

      I guess next thing for this owner is a debadge and maybe rebadge as a GT3
      It's just the OEM aerokit. It's a factory option and you can order the car that way if you want, so I'm not sure why it annoys you?

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      06-17-2015 07:45 PM #73
      Quote Originally Posted by VRado6 View Post
      It's just the OEM aerokit. It's a factory option and you can order the car that way if you want, so I'm not sure why it annoys you?
      Nope, that's not the Aerokit That's a GT3 (or RS) front bumper with a GT3 RS rear bumper.

      This is the 997 Aerokit front bumper; note how it doesn't have the "nostrils" at the leading edge of the frunk like a GT3 bumper does.



      The Aerokit leaves the rear bumper alone, but adds the big wing:



      Normal Carrera rear for comparison:

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      06-17-2015 09:08 PM #74
      If the car was sporting a GT3 badge, I'd but I totally the car as it sits.

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      06-18-2015 12:49 AM #75
      Quote Originally Posted by phatrabbitzz View Post
      Not trolling/no sarcasm. Not to derail the thread and start having a debate on the interiors, but IMHO, the 997.2 interiors look significantly more modern. Perhaps it's because of the black color, perhaps it's because of the lack of a telephone keypad, perhaps it's because of the button quality* (*I'm not the only one to notice this), perhaps it's the improved resolution of the GPS, but there is quite a "newer"/"fresher" look to the 997.2 center console. I have already had some of the white paint begin to peel off of the buttons, which is something I've never seen in the 997.2 vintage yet. Maybe in time it will come with age; who knows?

      To stay topical, one more point: what hasn't been mentioned is that on the 997.2 the dashboard "wart" sport chrono actually works as a clock. On the 997.1, functionality is limited to simply serving as a track timer. Boo....

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