So, not sure if y'all noticed, but the big Hatt is for sale. Nina and I bought a house so no need for such a big boat. Looking for a 28-32' boat with diesel, a cruise speed of at least 20 and top end over 25. Must have 2 berths (one for 7 year old step-daughter) and accommodation good enough for occasional overnights although it will mostly be a day boat. From a layout POV, the Bayliner 2859 is perfect. It's one of the only sub 35' fishing boats that has a mid-cabin birth. The looks aren't bad IMHO, and the prices sure are right. I know most bash Bayliners, but are they really THAT bad? What about the 2859 specifically? My research shows:
The Bayliner 2859 comes with a Mercruiser I/O, either a bravo2 or a bravo3, this is the same I/O package that many non bayliner boats come with. You could argue that Volvo is better, but the fact is that many "name" brands come with mercruiser engines.
2. HULL, STRINGERS and DECKS
The hull on a 2859 is 11/16" thick 5" to port of the keel. It's solid fiberglass. The stringers are some man made material and will not rot. The decks are heavily covered with fiberglass, I do not know what they are cored with. All wood in the boat is covered with fiberglass. The fiberglass is rough finished in areas not normally accessed like bulkheads etc. These are facts.
The windows standard laminated safety glass, they are thick enough not to break, and appear to be the same thickness as other brands. The frames are alumanum, painted and self draining on the sliding ones.
4. EXTERIOR HARDWARE
The exterior hardware is stainless, the rails are stainless and are screwed together. I don't know if that's good or bad since welding has advantages and so does screwed together. The cleats and rails are through bolted to the deck.
5. INTERIOR HARDWARE
The cabinets are constructed of marine plywood, finished in laminate. Doors to the head, cabin etc are through bolted to the frame.
6. ELECTRICAL and PLUMBING
This is the EXACT same stuff found on any other boat. Jabsco pumps, etc...
7. A typical big block GAS boat weighs over 10,000 pounds loaded and will cruise at over 20 kts, with a WOT speed of 34 kts. Not sure about the diesel.